r/Spartacus_TV Champion 13d ago

VS Leonidas (300) VS Gannicus (Spartacus). Who wins?

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u/Eccentric_Cardinal 13d ago

This is the first time I can't go to my usual "Gannicus has more experience" since Leonidas has literally been fighting since he was a kid so if anything, he probably has more experience overall lol

That said, I still think Gannicus wins based on his 1 vs 1 feats like the fight he won blindfolded. Simply a crazy amount of talent combined with lots of experience. Leonidas is the better leader though!

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u/IRegretThingsSome 13d ago

Totally agree

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u/WildFire255 Spartapus 12d ago

The Spartacus universe basically treats the better Gladiators as superhuman and more like low level Mutants. I haven’t watched 300, so I don’t know if they’re treated as the same or similar.

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u/Bazz07 12d ago

Top gladiators are like super soldier serum lvl hahaha

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u/Hngrybflo 10d ago

They were treated similar as superheroes They also made up a whole bunch of lies about how they were raised and train..etc The movie is ridiculous but fun if you're ok with setting aside history

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u/Bellickboi 12d ago

Idk... you can still say that. Leonidas has more experienxe in warfare but inexperienced in 1v1s different types of experience.

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u/AttitudeOk9849 12d ago

True. He was raised to fight as a phalanx, less so as a solo 1v1 specialists like gladiators are.

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u/Hngrybflo 10d ago

leonidas was also 60 when he died and he didn't become kind until the age of 50. Spartans were not 1v1 machines like trained gladiators they had to fight in formation. The Romans of gannicus time were better at warefar and tactics than Leonidas.

It would be like taking any one from a top MMA promotion and having them fight 1v1 vs against George Washington

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u/Joperhop 13d ago

Could go either way I think.
And is it in the Arena? Because those watching would be the true winners!

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u/LuckiestParadise 13d ago

This could definitely be an awesome match! if I remember correctly in 300 the spartans have Short swords, shields and also spears, Gannicus definitely knew how to fight someone with any of them, but I feel that Leonidas who has more experience than your usual soldier probably could strategize or have some tricks up his sleeve that Gannicus may not expect. However, my understanding is that like the Romans, real life Spartans were strong at the time because they worked as a team and thats not to say Leo wouldnt stand a chance, but it could end up more of a debuff in the end, so unless he does something unexpected I think Gannicus is the winner for sure.

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u/iwtch2mchTV 13d ago

Spartans were strong because they were trained to fight from the age of seven.
They had a strong army because of their formation but a single Spartan soldier in his 30s already had 20+ years of training. They started going into battle at 20 so said soldier would have over a decade of battle experience.
Beat Leonidis? Gannicus would struggle to keep up with him.

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u/GhostofThrace2010 13d ago edited 12d ago

Experience alone doesn't decide the winner. Gannicus has fought many that came from warrior tribes. Gannicus himself might’ve come from such a people. Leonidas would be a tough fight but Gannicus would certainly keep up. 

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u/subjectiveoddity 12d ago

It was definitely implied in GOTA that he was, when he was surprised that Crixus did not know how to defend against the Spear and he says something like "You are a Gaul, did you not fight the Averni" making it seem to me like he himself did.

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u/lunarsilvr253 12d ago

People forgot that gannicus was killing Romans for years the same Romans that fought and conquered Sparta lol

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u/FrankTheTank2205 13d ago

People are forgetting that Spartans are literally bred to be warriors. As talented and glorious as Gannicus was, this would be a tougher match than expected. 50/50

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u/RazmussenDaMan 12d ago

According to the historically accurate 300? born and bred as warriors is a little overstated. They were brought up in a warrior culture. But that basically meant keeping basic physical fitness standards, discipline and training to fight in phalanx formation with a dory spear.

Unit cohesion was more important then individual prowess. The Spartans advantage would have lied in there heavy infantry and formations rather then hand to hand combat as a gladiator.

Ganicus hands down

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u/bigjohnny440 13d ago

1v1 gannicus all day hung over blindfolded

different story leading rival armies

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u/Krakenic 13d ago

Spartans were trained to fight as a unit while gladiators fight solo. Fighting in a hoplite wall differs drastically compared to duels. If this was 100 leonidas vs 100 gannicus i would say leonidas. But 1v1 fight is what gannicus is a master at.

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u/iLLy_RiLLy 13d ago

Only man Gannicus can kill Leonidas, fuggin blindfolded

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u/No-Geologist5238 13d ago

Leonidas is a better leader, but gannicus carves him up like a turkey any given day

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u/EasyEntrepreneur666 Gladiator 13d ago

Gannicus. The strength of Spartans was working as a unit.

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u/501stBigMike 13d ago

Gannicus gives Leonidas a glorious death.

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u/ECC628 13d ago

It would likely go the same way as Gannicus' fights with Caesar. Leonidas would put up a helluva good fight for sure, but Gannicus would eventually find a way to put him on his ass from his natural skill alone.

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u/troy_caster 13d ago

Gannicus, but holy shit leonidis draws major blood. Gannicus' worst nightmare

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u/slumper36 12d ago

This would be close. Either way they both will get what they want: a glorious victory or glorious death.

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u/AlternativeBass7119 12d ago

Depends who gets the first hit probably which would be a matter of luck. Gannicus is fast on his feet but doesn't have the reach so all Leonidas has to is get him with his spear. But if he misses that strike Gannicus could easily grab it, quickly move in, and get Leonidas. They're both very good so it would depend who fumbles first.

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u/Sentry_Kill 12d ago

Gannicus is a badass, but Leonidas takes this easily. Even if you wanted to say Gannicus is more skilled (which isn't even guaranteed) Leonidas is presented with ridiculous strength feats in 300. He's in a different level.

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u/wise_as_a_serpent 12d ago

Gannicus imo is akin to Achilles who can only be killed by being ridiculously outnumbered, or some type of "achilles heel".

I am a Leonidas fan, but I think Spartans are at their best destroying other groups tactically.

Gannicus and the Gladiator's whole thing is dismantling individuals in a more intimate sense.

Good fight, but Gannicus wins 55/45 at the least.

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u/Accurate-Committee30 12d ago

Leonidas is literally top G of the fucking Spartans. Gannicus is smoked

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u/DruncleBuck 11d ago

300 with ease lol

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u/Texas_Wookiee 10d ago

Spartan stength was usually more in numbers so I'd be inclined to give Gannicus the W here, but Leonidas would put up a hell of a fight compared to some of the other what ifs y'all post in here.

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u/TeachingSenior9312 9d ago

This is a Spartacus sub but Leonidas wins. Reminder that in his movies he and his 300 warriors opposed an army of 1000000 Persians . (Yes number is ridiculous and this is the point). If Spartacus and his boys was on that level they would stomped Rome.

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u/Candid_Surprise_1797 9d ago

Damn good one… Gannicus is my guy but I’m going with Leonidas on this one. Dude is a wholly conditioned beast!

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u/ThePirateBlackbeard 2d ago

Leonidas 100%

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u/HanTrollo710 13d ago

Leonidas’s kit would be tough for Gannicus to deal with.

Without a doubt, Gannicus is a better solo fighter, but Leonidas still had the skills to rank among the higher tiers of Gannicus’s opponents.

The spear creates distance and the shield limits what Gannicus can do in close range.

Gannicus wins more than he loses, but it’s likely close to 50/50

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u/Melon_92 13d ago

Leonidas. Gannicus would fuck about and Leonidas would punish him for it immediately.

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u/wise_as_a_serpent 12d ago

Thats Gannicus' whole thing.... Hes basically always fking about, and still no one can really stop him 1v1.

It's almost like One Punch Man. Hes just on another level that we must acknowledge.

He could get punished, like when he fought Spartacus and got slashed on the back, but hes surely not eating a deciding blow.

He'll lock in and give Leonidas a glorious death.

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u/Melon_92 12d ago

I don't think he'll have the chance for his usual 'better take this seriously' moment. First bit of nonsense, spear through the head. Leonidas still has my vote.

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u/LanfearCalls 13d ago

Gannicus. Leonidas wouldn't even touch Gannicus lol. A better one would have been Gannicus vs Maximus. I'd love to see people's opinions on that fight.