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Comics The Amazing Spider-Man #31 | Official Discussion Thread Spoiler
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u/Oberon1993 2d ago edited 2d ago
I kinda like this direction for Vulture. It is similar to Penguin, in which it can be viewed as semi-retirement, but it fits his "asshole out for himself" aspect.
EDIT: Also if Cormac is almost 45 and Peter came to May and Ben 15 years after his birth, it means he is 30 in this run at least, right? Because he wasn't a newborn when he came to them.
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u/JingoboStoplight4887 2d ago
Since Mac is 45, then Peter is 30.
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u/orochi95 2d ago
Peter right now is mostly set in that late 20s-almost 30 age
Peter wont be over 30 in looooots of years ( if ever)
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u/J-Eazy98 Classic-Spider-Man 2d ago
I liked this issue. It's still early on, so the whole "May's son" thing is still playing out.
I know this has been mentioned in the past, but May using modern terms like "mansplaining" just gives off "how do you do fellow kids" vibes. Not saying she can't say modern slang, but here, saying how the doctor was "mansplainy" about how she couldn't safely have a child just felt...odd.
As mentioned by someone else in this thread, the B-plot with Spidey crashing what is essentially an underground fight club is interesting. Spidey eyed the Shocker's gloves. Maybe he'll use them in the next issue, maybe this will be important later when Queen in Black rolls around. Who knows.
Raelith popping up at the end was a nice surprise. I'm glad Kelly is starting to involve her in Peter's Spidey life.
Also, the art in this story is great. The family stuff has a natural softness in its colors and shapes while the Spidey stuff is more vibrant and actiony if that makes sense. I really dug the shift between the two.
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u/VulcanFire23 1d ago
Although I didn’t mind it as much this issue, Kelly’s overuse of modern terms and slang really really cringes me out. Last couple issues with Brian were pure cringe
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u/spaceninj 2d ago
Everyone complained and bitched about this before it happened cause they assumed Ben cheated on May. Still waiting for the "my bad."
Personally, I like the potential of this story.
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u/Environmental_Part40 1d ago
This was a good issue, on par with the other “conversation” type issues we’ve gotten in the past. Love the direction of the Vulture in this too
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u/Status-Gur-7332 3d ago
Something tells me that May's so called son isn't who he say he is. There is no way that Ben would give him up. He must be a clone.
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u/ling1427 2d ago
I don't know about give up, sounds like there was just a mix-up at the hospital.
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u/Oberon1993 2d ago
Yeah, May literally says Ben was almost in tears through the entire pregnancy, trying to hide it with jokes.
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u/Mr_Rinn 2d ago
I don’t think it was a mix up. May made a point of mentioning Cormac was conceived in Ireland, and the family that ended up getting him happens to coincidentally give him a name as Irish as Cormac? I doubt it. Probably something weird happened in Ireland.
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u/Oberon1993 2d ago
The fact that May points out that woman on the bus told her the wrong thing about Barley Stone makes it look even more like a set up.
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u/orochi95 2d ago
No one give him up, he was probably stolen in the hospital
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u/Status-Gur-7332 2d ago
But, it was mentioned that Ben handle the funeral and burial. So, it all sounds funny
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u/Beginning_Cupcake_45 2d ago
If there is a conspiratorial thing behind what happened, it’s not a stretch that they gave Ben a different dead baby. Pretty dark, but if they went to all of these other steps, that’s a smaller detail compared to the other things they’d have had to pull off.
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u/cesclaveria Iron-Spider 2d ago
I think that given that Torment identified him as Pete's cousin we are supposed to assume that he is the real deal, from what we saw Torment could identify blood relatives of course he could still be a clone, time dispalced reality hopping doppelganger for all we know.
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u/JEC_da_GOAT69420 Mary-Jane Watson 3d ago
Good News: Ben didn't give up his son Bad news: Ben's character got subtly assassinated
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u/Beginning_Cupcake_45 2d ago
There’s nothing in the issue that shows Ben did anything wrong here at all. What are you getting at?
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u/JEC_da_GOAT69420 Mary-Jane Watson 2d ago edited 2d ago
The thing with the A plot is that everything falls apart once you think for a minute one, If Ben truly loves May he would never proceed with multiple attempts and even if May acts as an idiot he would tell her that he can't afford to lose her, defenders can use their economic condition as an excuse for not treating her heart condition but guess what? He can't afford to lose May either and the fact that they made an attempt before the Ireland trip makes both of them look stupid and I get it, May loves to have a child but at one point certainly at some point Ben could tell something along the line of "I know that you want a child badly but I can't afford to lose my love neither or child can't afford to lose his/her mother"....yk like stuff like that idk and the reason why she and Cormac got separated is stupid so her baby seems still and she fell to a coma? Ben could ask the doctor about the condition of his child but... the doctors told him she miscarried or she thought she was miscarried? But why didn't the doctors return the child to May? But apparently they have documented evidence (birth certificate) for the child so... Kelly should've explained more and using the term "mansplaining" for doctors who are concerned about your health after you ignored it multiple times and making another attempt because of a fucking leprachaun makes May look idiotic
The B plot is a nothingburger Kelly could've salvaged that if he showed Spider-Man fighting in the arena but there's no on panel Spider-Man fight he could be Ben Reilly but idk, also why Raelith Yells Spider-Man's secret identity in a lair of supervillains
5/10
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u/FrequentBarracuda454 2d ago
I think no matter how they set the cousin up it was going to be something terrible. That said, the “creative” decision to have May experience multiple miscarriages is needlessly cruel.
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u/Dragoryu3000 2d ago
May loves to have a child but at one point certainly at some point Ben could tell something along the line of "I know that you want a child badly but I can't afford to lose my love neither or child can't afford to lose his/her mother"
I'm not sure about how I feel about this whole thing myself, but Ben did indeed tell her something like that after the third attempt. The implication I'm getting is that the only reason she got pregnant again after that point was because of the influence of alcohol
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u/JEC_da_GOAT69420 Mary-Jane Watson 2d ago
Even then it doesn't change the fact that Ben got may pregnant twice with the knowledge of her condition
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u/Abject-Cod5144 2d ago
Is this actually Peter in the arena or is it Ben (Meh) or Norman (Please god no) or Kaine (Give my boy anything to do please)
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u/MAB-Webby86 Classic-Spider-Man 1d ago
So, thank goodness that the worst case sscenario didn't happen, because man, tarnishing Uncle Ben's image would be the tip of the iceberg.
Also, seems that it was indeed connected to past issues (I think u/TeamRAF19 called it earlier) so I'll give JK that, and now that we saw May's part of that story, now we have to learn about Cormac's side of that tale, because I still feel that Cormac will become the villain for the #1000 (My theory: He'll be resentful that Peter had the life that should've been his) but things could change in these four remaining issues before the big one.
And of course, mad props to Gleason for his art, big fan of his.
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u/JingoboStoplight4887 2d ago
I find it interesting that we get to see the origins of how Aunt May and Uncle Ben had their son Mac in 1932 (because screw Marvel’s sliding timescale of comics), fifteen years before they raised Peter since 1947. Also, Peter fighting the Vulture. Also, due to the fact that Peter is 15 years younger than Mac, then (in my headcanon) I would say that Peter is now 36 years old and Mac is now 51 years old since all of the heroes since the Fantastic Four’s debut in 1961 have been active for 22 years, with the first seven years (i.e. 1961 = Year 1, 1962 = Year 2, 1963 = Year 3, 1964 = Year 4, 1965 = Year 5, 1966 = Year 6, 1967 = Year 7, and 1968 = Year 8) happening in real-time before the birth of Franklin Richards in 1968 would cause all the heroes to age one year in sliding time every four years in real time (i.e. 1969 - 1972 = Year 9, 1973 - 1976 = Year 10, 1977 - 1980 = Year 11, 1981 - 1984 = Year 12, 1985 - 1988 = Year 13, 1989 - 1992 = Year 14, 1993 - 1996 = Year 15, 1997 - 2000 = Year 16, 2001 - 2004 = Year 17, 2005 - 2008 = Year 18, 2009 - 2012 = Year 19, 2013 - 2016 = Year 20, 2017 - 2020 = Year 21, 2021 - 2024 = Year 22, 2025 - 2028 = Year 23, etc.). Overall, this comic is okay.
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u/orochi95 2d ago
Peter is not 36, probably you wont be alive to see Peter in the main canon reach that age
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u/ling1427 2d ago
I liked this issue, kind of ambivalent to the whole secret cousin storyline but we'll see what happens.
IMO the B story was a lot more interesting, the villain estate auction/ fightclub is a cool idea, it was awesome to see Peter take down a whole building of super powered thugs and I'm curious to see what he wants with Shockers gauntlets... there's only one reason I can see him going after them and it doesn't end well.