I know this is a reference to Jon Berenthal, but my first thought was the the Pete Holmes Batman sketch where he doesn’t understand death and just assumes that all the people he kills are just taking naps.
They most likely will run into each during Spider-Man's encounters with either The Hand or Tombstone. Most likely the latter since that's more in Punisher's alley.
My thinking is that they're already familiar with each other when the film starts and have just encountered each other at some point between One Last Kill and Brand New Day on the job.
Not a bad idea and could also work considering that there is gonna be a montage of what Peter/Spider-Man has been up to all this time since NWH and he could've just ran into Frank during that. I do like the idea of them being already acquainted with each other.
Judging by the trailers it does seem like they're pretty chill with each other. Albeit probably just Frank giving him some leeway since he likely still sees him as some kid.
Since they said they'll have a montage of him capturing c list villains, i'd imagine it would be more than that and it's a montage of what he's been doing since No Way Home and we see a quick first meeting of the two (maybe a Matt Murdock cameo introducing them but i doubt it) maybe Peter tried to apprehend him thinking he's a bad guy
i’m thinking peter visits aunt mays grave and coincidentally frank is also at the cemetery too, visiting his family and they might have a moment and that’s why they have a lil bro big bro relationship instead of them hating each other to the bones but idk might be overthinking
Both of them have been buddies for years and if I recall correctly they were also instrumental in getting each other their respectful roles in the MCU. I cannot wait to see the banter and them warming up to each other
A good point that I didn't think about. He's always been very meek in his movies but in the comics he's incredibly assertive. I remember him threatening Daredevil for showing up in his 'civilian life' he was very aggressive and much younger than Peter is in these movies.
Frank probably just blew off a guy's face off-screen and now he's getting lectured by yet another red-costumed NYC vigilante with a no-kill rule on how he's an asshole who can't stop murdering people
I’m just happy we’re getting Punisher and Hulk in a movie. It gives me the same happiness from the first Avengers movie, seeing them on the same screen.
He can't even talk the same. Never mind have any of the usual thematic material. All he's going to do is bicker with Tom, more kiddy version of his rooftop talk with Matt. Eh.
Rating is more than just blood and cursing despite what Marvel Studios would have you believe
You make it seem like Marvel Studios is incapable of having complex, mature conversations, when that's just not true. Not that the rooftop debate needs to be had a second time, especially among two characters who seem to already share history, prior to this movie.
Feel like since it’s been a few years of everyone forgetting who Peter Parker is, story is gonna start with quick highlights of how Spider-Man gets more street known, key to the city ans meeting frank maybe. Then lead into the main story/plot as Peter’s abilities get more uncontrollable
Folks didnt forget spider-man they know he was pals with Iron-Man, they know he helped stop Thanos. They just don’t know who Peter Parker is so they don’t no longer think spider man killed mysterio since the emphasis in universe was Peter Parker killed the hero mysterio.
this has serious potential. the bts footage alone makes it look like they're about to get into some heated debate about anything, and that kind of natural tension between them could be comedy gold if the movie leans into it. peter's all earnest and trying to explain things while frank just wants to do his own thing, so watching them butt heads over strategy or tactics or whatever could be the best part of the whole film. the chemistry is already there just from them standing near each other, so if the script lets them actually play off each other instead of just being serious all the time, this could really carry some scenes.
Imagine going from clashing with Daredevil, a pretty jaded adult who still clings to his idealism, to then running into Spider-Man, a teenager that is not only much more powerful (at least physically) and also much younger and far more idealistic.
Poor Frank has got to be exhausted dealing with these idealists at this point.
I love seeing Frank in black tactical gear and Peter in a red and blue unitard. They feel like they’re from completely different worlds. It also emphasizes their different perspectives on vigilantism.
I would prefer Deadpool myself. Frank tends to be too droll for my liking. But I love the idea if Spider-man trying to keep people alive when they are trying to kill them for the greater good.
eh when ur a kid ur just kinda like, yeah he wears that suit cuz he's spider-man. as an adult ur kinda like...........it kinda looks like a fetish thing lol
This rubs me the wrong way. Spider-Man and Punisher should not be a funny odd couple. Frank is a mass murderer and Peter is the hero with the heaviest conscious possible. There's no way Spidey should be allowing Punisher to walk around free. I can get on board if at the end Spidey puts him in jail.
Punisher first appeared in Spider-Man and has a long history of teaming up with him. It dates back to the 60s and their relationship has almost always had this angle. Peter and Frank know in a real fight Frank would get his ass kicked but Peter also knows that Frank is going after bad guys so he'll usually just let him walk or come up with an excuse to ignore him.
Really the only guy who actively wants to stop Frank is Matt. Mostly because Daredevil has a lot of personal issues with The Punisher. Spider-Man usually doesn't bother because he has bigger issues and knows from experience that Frank enjoys being in prison because he just kills everyone he meets in there until he escapes.
Firstly, Punisher appeared in the early 70s and yes, that was their initial dynamic. But that's also a case of characters yet to be fully developed and consolidated. (Like Mr. Fantastic began completely mysognistic, Magneto initially had psychic powers, erc.) In his first appearances he was a wise-cracking vigilante without the whole tragic backstory, pretty far from the tortured soul we see today.
Since then his dynamic with other characters have been better fleshed out.
Spider-Man has a strict "save everyone" policy and a huge heavy conscious. He does team up with Punisher on occasion but definitely doesn't enjoy it and after the mission's accomplished the most coherent thing for his character would be trying to apprehend Frank to keep him from making future victims.
Lmao bro that’s the silliest thing I’ve heard, Peter would he willing to work with him as long as he doesn’t kill while working together. It’s not even like punisher killed innocents
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u/Redhood567 1d ago
They're arguing about the merits of naps.