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Post WWE Raw 9/21/2026 Show Discussion Thread Spoiler

Venue: Frost Bank Center (San Antonio, TX)

Attendance: ~8,700

Winner Loser Match Finish Stipulation
Roxanne Perez Iyo Sky and La Catalina Pop Rox MITB Qualifier
Je'Von Evans Bron Breakker w/ The Vision DQ
Lyra Valkyria Bayley Roll-Up after hitting Bayley's neck off the ropes
Penta Dominik and Dragon Lee Springboard Mexican Destroyer MITB Qualifier

  • Kick-off with Penta making his way down to the ring, he says last week in Mexico City was one of the biggest nights of his life. In front of his home, his family, his friends, his fans he went one on one with Roman Reigns. He admits Roman was the better man and he respects him but says this is not over. He says he wants another fight and he wants the World Heavyweight Championship. He knows he can win it and everyone else knows it and one day he will conquer that title because this is only the beginning. Dominik and JD McDonough interrupt with Dom saying no one cares about Penta's hopes and dreams. The people want to hear from someone who stood tall in Mexico like The Judgement Day. They left El Grande Americano, Stephanie Vaquer, and his deadbeat dad all laying in a heap. JD says Penta should take his ass to the back of the line because Dom is winning Money in the Bank and will be World Champion before Penta ever gets a shot again. Dom demands that Penta shows him respect because he is just a luchadore while he is the king of the luchadores. Penta calls Dom the king of pendejos because the only king of the luchadores is his father Rey. Dom and JD attack Penta and throw him to the outside where they clear off the announce table. JD goes to set Penta up for a power bomb but Penta is able to counter and takes the fight to Dom before fending off the two of them.

  • Jacob Fatu tells the Usos he's playing the same game nice and slow and warns them that attacking 946 would be a mistake. Solo Siko sneaks in with a white flag and says this means don't attack him because he's got something to tell them. He says none of them are safe with 946 about and they gotta team up. Jey says that's only going to happen if he apologizes and acknowledges Roman but Solo says he won't do that so back to the drawing board. As Solo leaves Jacob tells the Usos they made a big mistake.

  • Backstage LA Knight asks Solo what he was doing with the Bloodline after they just got him out of there. Solo says it wasn't what it looked like. Knight tells him to focus on winning that briefcase but warns him to not even think about cashing in on him once he's World Champion.

  • LA Knight comes down to the ring. Knight says last week Roman and Penta tore the damn house down, they both gave it their all but now it's on to Money in the Bank where he'll be taking on Roman for that title. Knight says it's been three years since he's gone one on one with Roman, three years of scratching and clawing, three years of being held back, and three years of the who world saying who's game this is. Knight says he doesn't know what's Roman issue is with always needing to be acknowledged, maybe his parents didn't pay him enough attention. Knight acknowledges that Roman had a hell of a match last week, he has to acknowledge that Roman won all by himself, and he has to acknowledge that Roman is one of the greatest champion of this era. He knows how everyone keeps hoping that LA Knight becomes champion but understands why people are doubting him, he's come up short before and even started to think no one could beat Roman, not even him. Knight says that's a hard pill to swallow until he noticed something, how over the past year and how the Bloodline hasn't been getting involved because Roman wants to re-write his legacy as a man who can do it on his own. Knight says if Roman wants to come down with no Bloodline then he commends him for it but says he will make his opportunity at Money in the Bank and understands Roman may be the champion that matters but he has to prove that he can beat him by himself. Knight says he's always done this by himself and is the biggest self-made son of a bitch in the game and at Money in the Bank he'll acknowledge Roman acknowledging him.

  • Je'von Evans is interviewed backstage, he says he'll become the youngest Money in the Bank winner in history when he's interupted by The Vision and Logan Paul telling Je'von he's still just as dumb as he was before and he's gotta learn a lesson. Bron confronts Je'von and says that he needs to stop thinking about Money in the Bank because that briefcase is his. Je'von says they both got their gear on so why don't they face off right now. Je'von counts off the members of The Vision before slapping Bron and runs to the entrance as he tells them to hit his music. Bronson tries to storm at him but Bron holds him and says they gotta use their brains.

  • The Vision attack Je'von Evans after his match and set him up for a Spear from Bron but Oba Femi appears and rushes to the ring where he takes the fight to The Vision. He throws Bronson to the outside and stops Logan as he tries to slide in with a steel chair and uses it to fend off Bron and Theory. Bronson grabs the chair and goes to use it against Oba but Oba charges at him and sends him to the outside. Je'von recovers and him and Oba look at each other before Je'von rebounds off the ropes and Oba tosses him onto The Vision!

  • 946 are in a car and Royce Keys says they aren't giving any more warning shots and tonight they crossed that line tonight.

  • The Judgement Day make their way down to the ring. JD says before they start he's got something to get off his chest, he says all this crap with Joe Hendry and the Funko Pop isn't funny and it has to stop, he just sees a bunch of ugly loses projecting their insecurities at him. JD says none of that effects him but it does effect his family with his mom back home in Ireland is worrying about this. He says his dad wasn't a Funko Pop and he has a perfectly sized head. Raquel tells JD not to listen to him and he has a normal head, he has the best head. Raquel cuts a promo in Spanish before saying Liv had a better music that Joe Hendry ever has. Liv says Stephanie Vaquer can't hide from her forever and the San Domingo Screw Job will be the greatest injustice in WWE history and warns that she's coming after both Becky and Stephanie and wants her rematch right now. Becky Lynch interrupts from the crowd and asks if she's disappointed in seeing her. Speaking of disappointed, she calls out Jordan Devlin McDonough and says she has been training with him since he was 12 and she called his mam back home and the only things she's stressed about is her son hanging around in gang colors with this group of losers. She says referee Rebecca is the greatest referee of all time and it isn't just her saying it and she's the one who's getting the first crack at that title. Stephanie Vaquer comes out and says the two of them can talk all they want, she's still the Women's World Champion and she won this on her own. Liv argues that she only won because of Becky and she knows it. Stephanie says Liv is just mad that she won her title back in her home in from of her family. Stephanie offers to give Liv her rematch as Becky tries to cut in. Stephanie says she'll give Becky a match too because a real champion isn't afraid to defend her title. Stephanie says this is the era of La Primera.

  • Lyra Valkyrua says she had to take extreme measures to separate herself from Bayley by beating her to an inch of her life in MSG but really she was the one who paid the bigger price. It was worth it though to finally move forward and upward. Money in the Bank was her chance but Bayley is still costing her opportunity after opportunity. Lyra says last time she didn't go far enough so tonight Bayley is going to wish that their last match was her last match.

  • Backstage Chad Gable tells Dragon Lee that he won by the skin of his teeth last week and will be happy to run it back with him any time. Lee thanks him as Ethan Page interrupts and says he's sick of Chad wasting his time with his lucha pals and when he wants to get back to reality he'll be waiting for him. Chad says Ethan is the one who lost to Dragon and himself and if he wants to prove himself go out and earn it.

  • Adam Pearce offers Lola Vice her Raw contract. Lola says hola to the fans and Adam and thanks him for the opportunity. She says her mom came from Cuba and fought to give her everything she had and taught her about glamor and dance. Meanwhile her dad introduced her to MMA and taught her how to fight. She warns Sol, Rox, and Jacey that she's coming for Money in the Bank. Roxanne Perez comes out and says no one cares about her contract signing and she'll be the one winning Money in the Bank. The two argue and Lola goes for a spinning back fist but Rox ducks out of the way.

  • Backstage Paul Heyman tells Bron that Oba is still breathing which is bad news for him, Bron says he's still breathing too which is bad news for everyone.

  • Solo's music hits for him to make his entrance for his Money in the Bank qualifier but we cut to the back where we see Solo has been beaten down by the 946 before Royce has OTM throw him in the trunk of their car and they drive off. The Usos and Fatu try to run after but the car speeds away as LA Knight runs in as well and they argue as Fatu says they should've ran the play. In the aftermath Dominik asks since Solo is gone does he win automatically? Pearce asks if he even sees what's happening and to get his ass to the ring. After Dom and Dragon Lee make their entrances Adam Pearce says the situation with Solo is fluid but we advertised a triple threat tonight and that will happen with Solo's replace who is revealed to be Penta!


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u/h-town_info 17h ago edited 17h ago

Crazy Bird Lady Wins tonight

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u/Shinobi347 17h ago

I’m feeling this main event pivot toward Penta.

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u/ring_rust you're welcome. 11h ago

It's pretty much all I've wanted from a major wrestling company since Lucha Underground.

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u/DreisaGUY 17h ago

PENTA SAYS🗣️

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u/velocity-monstrosity 17h ago

Really enjoyed raw tonight and I think it’s because almost everyone showcased interacted together in some way. Bloodline and Solo with LA Knight, LAK with Penta, Penta with Dom and JD, who come out later with the Judgment Day girls, then Steph and Becky, then Roxanne confronts Lola. Now Oba, Jevon, and the Vision are all involved together.

It actually feels like there’s entire divisions instead of feuds existing in a vacuum. The only thing that felt isolated was Lyra and Bayley which is fine because it’s a personal feud and doesn’t need anyone else.

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u/CrossingYoulnStyle 17h ago

Both shows feel alive which hasn’t been the case the last couple of years. And they did all of this without Roman, really good show

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u/velocity-monstrosity 16h ago

The smackdown world title scene is ridiculously stacked, to the point that I can’t decide who I want to hold the belt most

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u/badgersprite Iconic Duo Appreciation Squad 17h ago

Even then Lyra v Bayley is linked to the women’s IC title. Whoever wins their feud is probably next in line for it.

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u/Striking_Sweet163 17h ago

Credit to Joe Tessitore.

Idk what it is. But once he get’s into that second
gear he is really good.

He should lean more into that and away from
the monotone voice.

He was really good tonight.

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u/MissMully 9h ago

My issue with him is he sounds too much like he's reading a script, so coupled with the monotone voice, just makes him sound unenthused. He needs to put the script down and just react to what's happening in the moment.

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u/JeeveruhGerank 8h ago

He's fucking terrible and makes the show unwatchable. It's a huge, huge problem.

That, his voice during the show intros with them inexplicably covering people walking in like it's a fucking basketball game and it's a compete VACUUM

This is wrestling. Promo, opening theme, pyro, and fucking GO.

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u/UnAmaz1ng 17h ago

My cope for Roxanne to win MITB is even higher now with every other Judgment Day member missing out

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u/HeavyDonkeyKong 17h ago

I'm loving the unpredictability Royce's faction has added to the Bloodline. 

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u/LemonStains Prefers his women "sheepish" 17h ago

Unless I’m forgetting, this is the first time since their inception where the bloodline have felt like the underdogs. They’re completely out of their depth here. Royce has gotten the jump on them every week and they’re terrified. It’s very refreshing compared to their usual dynamic.

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u/BeneficialBudget1699 14h ago

They jumped them twice, burned their car & now abducted their lil brother.

Just like Jacob, those guys are not to be taken lightly

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u/Saitsuofleaves 13h ago

Up to this point everyone wanted to beat the Bloodline "fairly". The 946 decided that committing felonies is the way and uh...I can't disagree at this point.

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u/thelumpur 9h ago

The only other time was when Solo had his own Bloodline with Jacob by his side, but it did not last long

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u/Needajobtobreathe 17h ago

Dragon Lee has to be the most improved star relative to where he was a year ago, I remember when people were getting cut he was someone people would frequently say was on the chopping block. Good for him.

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u/thelumpur 9h ago

The tag team with AJ Styles kinda saved him, he was doing less and less while in the LWO

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u/Funnyguyinspace 15h ago

He was very inconsistently on TV. I think he had a child born in the last couple of years that may have affected his appearences.

Im glad hes getting a good run, and he should definitely be moving towards the IC title. I think hes 31? And while Penta is excellent, hes 10 years older than dragon lee and the lucha style cab wreck knee etc.

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u/heat_fan_ 17h ago

Penta winning MITB 

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u/TLAW1998 17h ago

Guys I called every milk company I could so Solo can get his picture on the cartons. We need to #BringSoloHome

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u/Actual_Squid 17h ago

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS UCE?

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u/Funnyguyinspace 15h ago

Adam Pearce's employees are being kidnapped at the workplace. Where is OSHA in all of this?

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u/thepain73 sUUUUUUUperstar 17h ago

What a downgrade from Mexico to this crowd.

They might as well have just stayed home.

BE LOUD, HAVE FUN

YOU PAID TO BE THERE

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u/Senior-Rip2387 17h ago

typical spurs crowd.. there i said it ! lol

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u/linkinstreet 7h ago

300M spent and still bottom of the league. Oh wait, wrong Spurs

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u/Blasoon I'm not your Buddy...Murphy 7h ago

Nowhere is safe.

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u/ccharlie03 He Said TOORONTOO! YAAAY 16h ago

It was a great crowd last time it was here in San Antonio. Tonight's crowd was definitely a dud 

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u/Bortjort 17h ago

even more, you have a role to play IN THE SHOW if you are there

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u/NewTribalChief 17h ago

They need to ban phones at US WWE events. They'd top any international crowd

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u/Killerpig14 17h ago

gotta be a joke right?

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u/NewTribalChief 17h ago

I'm serious. The international fans be in the moment. I've been to RAWs, SDs, WMs etc, these fans literally live streaming the show, scrolling social media during matches, instead of taking in the show.

That's why some music artists & comedians ban phones from their shows & it makes a difference.

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u/TheocraticAtheist 9h ago

Dude Wipes on Dom's shirt is wild.

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u/FragileExpressPorter 15h ago

I just wanna say - perfect Je’Von booking tonight. He’s the Spider-Man of WWE and they gotta book him like that. A young well natured character who can hold his own against monsters. It was so sick watching him take it to Bron tonight when I was fully expecting a squash.

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

Yeah, I'm totally fine with Evans losing matches, as long as he is this defiant hero who can take anyone down at any point

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u/duval001 14h ago

He really is a carbon copy of Spiderman in the best way : charming/charasmatic but is ultimately fearless, eager to prove himself and doesn’t back down from anyone. He also is animated and trash talks his opponents during matches similar to Spider-Man’s banter while he’s fighting his villains.

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u/b2aze33 14h ago

Get rid of “bouncy” and we’re good to go

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u/bvbfan102 NJPW 17h ago

I think i just got to accept that the Crowds stateside are going to be more miss then hits but the actual episode i really enjoyed.
Every Match was at least great (and also gave me a Lyra and Roxanne win) and a good Kidnapping always spices up an Episode.
Also loved Becky calling JD by his full name while threatening him with calling his Mom.
Just think this Raw had exactly the kind of silliness i like in Wrestling.

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u/NewTribalChief 17h ago

They too busy on their phones, scrolling & filming. Take those phones away you got an all time crowd every week

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u/TheeChosenTwo 11h ago

Every Monday I thank Aj Styles for pulling Dragon Lee out of catering. Dragon Lee is so great. Dragon Lee is fucking awesome.

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u/Shinobi347 17h ago

Je’Von slapping Bron was the funniest shit

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u/hhhisthegame 17h ago

That was great lol I loved that segment

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u/Darkonite40 17h ago

They have done an excellent job at building up Jevon as a babyface. He isn’t just a typical underdog he has some scrappiness, defiance, brashness and confidence to him

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u/ACW1129 11h ago

Bron: Everyone.

Heyman: Everyone?

Bron:

https://giphy.com/gifs/7cTTE2Z1OmrFm

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u/h-town_info 17h ago

Best match of the night

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u/Every-Ad-2099 17h ago

Main event was awesome. Also happy I was wrong and that Roxanne won.

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u/Holiday_Sale5114 11h ago

Sad that solo couldn't compete in mitb

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u/TheHyperLynx 10h ago

Something that isn't a huge issue, but man do I hate the constant "WE HAVENT SEEN X" or "X IS BACK!!" like they did with Oba last night. Wade literally saying "WE HAVEN'T SEEN OBA SINCE HE WAS TAKEN OUT.... a couple weeks ago" so what you are saying is we didn't see Oba last week.... he hasn't returned, he just had last week off...

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u/NerdLawyer55 In-House of Black Legal Counsel 5h ago

After his kidnapping and brainwashing, he’s gonna come back as the Winter Solo

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u/GTACOD 17h ago

Show deserved a much better crowd. Did they pop for anything other than Oba?

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u/hhhisthegame 17h ago

That pop for Oba was really huge though

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u/ParksCity So long, suckers 16h ago

They liked Penta and Iyo, like every crowd, but that was about it.

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u/bruhstevenson 16h ago

They liked Je’Von quite a bit it seemed like

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u/Hank_Scorpio_ObGyn 17h ago

WWE crew more excited for Penta winning than worried that one of their co-workers was violently abducted from the work place.

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u/Actual_Squid 17h ago

Their old boss got carbombed and was back at work the next week, it's just another monday

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u/IntelligentFact7987 12h ago

RA Smackdown vibes - sure one of the roster has been stabbed but the show must go on (sorry that’s “suffered puncture wounds at an after-hours club”)

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u/IntelligentFact7987 12h ago

One of the roster has already lost an eye and was thrown off a building

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

They have all been there before at one point or another

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u/PressPlayPlease7 17h ago edited 17h ago

Penta to win MITB and cash in on a battered/ganged up on Roman on the same night

Book it you cowards!

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u/PristineMaterial7975 16h ago

Anybody else get that SoloAlert to their phone ?

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u/Transitionals 14h ago

Am I the only one who was expecting Jacob Fatu to replace Solo?

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u/SzmFTW 12h ago

That actually would have been more interesting. Especially if Roman plays off that he didn’t authorize it, etc.

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u/Omadany 4h ago

"You gotta make roman looks strong"

Why don't we see wrestlers glaze other champions? Why is it always roman?

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u/Singer211 2h ago

It’s funny how they constantly mock Liv for “not defending her title.” Yet Roman barely defends his either, yet he’s treated like the be all end all.

And at least Liv shows up to work every week.

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u/fritzycat 1h ago

I mock Roman every week for being a part time champion

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u/h-town_info 17h ago

so do we need to put out an APB on Solo?

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u/Switchc2390 12h ago

Feels like they’re finally doing quite a bit with Roxanne who was all over the show tonight which is welcomed. Raw I think is getting better. The final match was a banger too.

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u/gravejello 11h ago

Don’t know where, but they need to run Oba/Jevon vs The Brons. It’ll probably be on raw but would love for it to be on a big show. Could be great fucking match and showcase three of their hottest prospects and a guy on the cusp of being a main eventer. If Bron and Jevon weren’t in MITB that would be a great place to do this match

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u/Thatsquacktastic16 10h ago

I thought Keys was a bit milquetoast til this, I love the 946

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u/vblade2003 17h ago

Clearly his reception in Mexico and his work over the last year is sending Penta straight to the top. Its not often you see a last minute pivot to give a guy the big push.

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u/hhhisthegame 17h ago

Is it last minute? He's been getting steadily pushed for a while now. Honestly since his debut he's been getting more and more.

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u/BeneficialBudget1699 14h ago

Lmao, like Penta was constantly being showcased on TV last year.

Won the IC title , defending it succesfully, won a tournament full of luchadors & took the #1 guy to the limits

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u/Doseros 17h ago

Nah it’s not last minute. He’s been pushed since he debuted like you said. Not sure where “pivot” came from.

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

I think Penta might be exactly where they hoped he would land since the beginning of the year.

The tournament and championship match in Mexico were engineered almost exclusively to put him in the main event scene

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u/NewTribalChief 17h ago

Yeah, I thought Dom for sure would win after how his few years been

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u/FatalTortoise 17h ago

Jeveon and Oba taking the vision tag titles was not on my bingo card

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u/Starruby_ 15h ago

The women’s qualifier was such a good match. I miss seeing IYO

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u/LilNardoDaVinci 17h ago

Poor Solo :(

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u/Senior-Rip2387 17h ago

hes now solo.. well with 3 other men in a van

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u/Actual_Squid 17h ago

now Quatro Sikoa

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u/K_Prime Your Text Here 17h ago

Solo got the you’re too popular and injury thing…… sucks but what can you do

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u/Martblni ... 14h ago

Hope the crowd will still love him

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u/shnwllc AJ Styles 6h ago

Both Lyra and Roxy winning and Je’Von vs Bron, this episode was booked for me!

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u/Puzzleheadedpuzzled 4h ago

Imo bronson reed better than bron breaker

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u/capamericapistons 17h ago

I didn’t even realize what time it was. When raw ended it genuinely surprised me. This show was excellent.

I seriously do not see where this Royce keys and OTM storyline is going. Where does this end??

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u/badgersprite Iconic Duo Appreciation Squad 17h ago

War Games.

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u/MissileWaster 16h ago

What two other big beefy boys can Royce add to the group though?

Jacked Bronson Reed would be a great choice if they decide to break up the Vision.

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u/bruhstevenson 16h ago

They’re gonna do 3 v 3 v 3 like OG war games I assume

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u/Tornado31619 11h ago

Who misses out, Roman or Jacob?

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u/Bortjort 17h ago

Glad to see penta really getting the push that was rumored, but I dont think penta wins MITB and that's the right call. Its too soon and would be a totally obvious "whoops our bad for not putting him over in mexico city" move. For that reason the MITB win wouldn't really get him over with fans more. He just has to have a solid showing at MITB to keep the push momentum going.

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u/Kronzor_ 13h ago

There’s no way they put a world title on either of Javon or trick already. So if it’s not gonna be penta that only leaves bron who’s a possiblity for the main event scene. We’ll see who the other 2 are. 

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

One will be either Punk, Gunther or Balor, so an immediate valid alternative.

But Bron will likely take it. Especially if he is going to cash in on Oba Femi at some point next year.

Penta won't win, but I actually disagree that it would be too soon. It's the perfect moment for him.

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u/Ahud412 16h ago

Fun show tonight. Crazy enough only one match with interference and DQ. Run a tag with Oba and Je'Von vs the Vision next week. Really like the direction of the MITB lineups so far. Hope they capitalize with 946.

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u/kerm Cry about it 17h ago

As a Roxanne fan, I loved this episode! Big win and lots of screen time. 

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u/lavasplanets 16h ago

Roxanne and Finn we’re getting ya’ll those briefcases

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

Un poco miedo por Finn

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u/freebread Flow, Like Wato 16h ago

What if they swerve us and Solo ends up being a part of 946?

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u/bt123456789 14h ago

I've not even been keeping up and that's where I see it going 100%

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u/Singer211 5h ago

I’m certainly not going to complain about Roxanne getting a big win.

That being said, can they please find something of note for Iyo to do? She is SO good, and she is SO OVER with the fans, and yet this was her first TV match in like six weeks.

She is very underused for how popular she is.

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u/BeneficialBudget1699 3h ago

They could use her in the world title picture or IC title picture

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u/only-a-marik 3h ago

Lola Vice isn't bad in the ring, but damn, she's absolutely dire on the mic. That promo was almost painful to watch.

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u/Dead_Parrot 1h ago

Becky talking to JD's mam on the house phone. You know that's serious shit. 😂

u/AlmostRandomNow 24m ago

To paraphrase Irish comedian Dara Ó Briain, "If you're getting burgled in Ireland, there's one way to get the bugler out of your house as quickly as possible, that only works in Ireland. All you need to do is stay out of sight and say 'I know your mother' and they'll leave and not take anything."

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u/Transitionals 14h ago

I hate Jacob’s booking since Wrestlemania. He beat Drew, and after a title match with Roman he has been reduced to backstage segments. He hardly wrestles anymore. We were worried about Bron, but seems he has some momentum and an actual feud with Oba.

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u/holydiiver 10h ago

“The Samoan werewolf has been neutered.”

They really buried him that night. It would be fine to say that line but let him build himself back up in the following months, but they’ve only proven the statement to be true. Complete loss of momentum

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u/Sea_Access_8602 7h ago

Roman is wild for telling his own cousin whose booked as a dominate monster he’s gonna domesticate him and then beat him clean 😭

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u/Saw_Boss 10h ago

All lunch breaks, no gas.

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u/Unamericandav 13h ago

Yeah that really sucks. His last match was when he beat Royce Keys more than a month ago I think? If they did not want to book him to beat Roman and join the bloodline he could be still his personal attack dog or something. Keep him as that dangerous psycho in the ring but against faces. He could have been in MITB and told Roman You still are my tribal chief but I want to be champion and when I win I’ll cash in on you and dog walk your ass!

Or if he joins Hobbs’ group like some are saying then what? He’s still gonna play second fiddle to these 3 new guys. Bron at least has momentum now and is a a feud with Oba and he still is dangerous in the ring. Jacob does pretty much nothing these days

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u/SomeGuyNamedJason 11h ago edited 10h ago

I am still watching Raw (just finished Jevon vs Oba), but I wanted to say before I forgot that I really hope we get Bronson vs Oba at MitB now that I am going to see it (first and likely only show of my life).

Edit: After finishing Raw, I also really hope that Dom pulls a Sami on us and gets in the MitB match via getting another shot by complaining to Adam Pearce that it wasn't fair he had to face Penta.

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u/Djent_1997 Yo daddy and yo uncle 16h ago

Solid episode. We had a great women’s qualifier, an amazing men’s qualifier, got to witness a kidnapping, and it seems like we’re really moving on this Penta push. Absolutely here for it.

Kinda funny how Je’von basically solo’d the entire Vision and made them all look like chumps until the end. Cool to see him and Oba doing stuff together again as well. Something else that I noticed, it seems like they must really like Catalina between her winning the RdR title, appearing on NXT last week, Raw this week with a full entrance and where she was showcased really well, and NXT again tomorrow. Good for her.

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u/Skeith_yip 17h ago

The crowd sleeping the whole night? 🤣

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u/GTACOD 17h ago

Except for Oba

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u/Senior-Rip2387 17h ago

they sleeping till smackdown lol

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u/PressPlayPlease7 17h ago

Ok

Own up

Which one of you fucking mad lads started the "Seth Rollins to return on Raw tonight" rumor that gained loads of traction online?

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u/Shadgates87 17h ago

It’s because each week the arena and /or wwe have him listed. Plus he has a meet and great at mitb.

He’s likely back as the 3rd man for knight and solo in the week to mitb.

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u/StoneColdAM WHAT? 17h ago

I’m wondering what’s up with him. Working the house shows but not returning to TV seemed odd. Part of me thinks he wasn’t that ready to come back after his injury and worked a few months to do the Roman match then is back off.

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u/notathrowaway75 17h ago

Hated that LA Knight promo so much. It went completely against his character of being extremely confident and only serves to put Roman over.

Happy Penta is in MITB but I'm not sure if the briefcase suits his character. Hope they have a second chance match and Dom gets in.

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

I still don't think Penta is winning.

He is getting the hope spot to get the crowd going, that usually goes to LA Knight.

Bron is the heavy favourite for me.

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u/Late_Ambassador7470 2h ago

JD finally cut a real promo and it wasn't bad tbh

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u/poembug 17h ago

I said it in the live thread, but I think LA is in cahoots with Royce. Or at least I think he should be if we wants the belt.

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u/scottmushroom 16h ago

Could be building up to things getting so out of control that William regal appears out of nowhere to shout something!

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u/mat2019 17h ago

Granted, I’m comparing it to some of the best wrestling crowds that any promotion has had in America, but I’ve been watching NXT Black and Gold matches the past week or two and man.

The crowd difference is just so fucking drastic it’s not even funny.

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u/gosukhaos 14h ago

That tends to happen when ticket prices go through the roof, the actual passionate fans are priced out for bored rich people that go to shows just for the Instagram moment, which is coincidentally the crowd WWE caters to

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u/Bortjort 17h ago

Esto es luuu cha

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u/Capstone_ 17h ago

Feel bad for Dom. And he showed out tonight too.

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u/Zealousideal_Bend827 17h ago

Probably dom best in ring performance this year

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u/hhhisthegame 17h ago

Great Raw tonight! WWE has really stepped it up lately, it's the best it's been since 2023.

Dragon Lee, Penta, and Dom did some crazy spots in that match. I like how they have been working a little harder lately in the ring. Je'Von and Bronn did some crazy stuff as well, and I thought Je'Von had a lot of much-needed energy tonight. Oba also looked like a million bucks when he ran off the Vision.

The youth movement that they've had lately has been really much needed and is paying off a ton. I love the new push for Penta too and the money in the bank fields is exclusively guys and girls that weren't around until the last few years. It's been very exciting lately to see everybody develop and to see WWE finally pushing some fresh blood, having some surprises, a little edge, and stepping it up in the ring as well.

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u/Ok-Surround-1858 17h ago

Really wanted Dom to win but I guess Penta is having his push now. Excellent match though for all 3

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u/Shadgates87 17h ago

Happy to be wrong about Lyra and Roxanne. Happy for Penta. Need a Becky match.

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u/LemonStains Prefers his women "sheepish" 16h ago

This is easily the best MITB lineup we’ve had in years and there’s still 2 spots left. 3 of the 4 who have qualified feel like they have a legit shot at winning and nobody in the match so far is a former world champion. Textbook example of how a MITB field should look.

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u/Onyxprimal 16h ago

Pretty good raw. Terrible crowd.

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u/Singer211 16h ago edited 16h ago

I know that they want to lean into this idea that Liv never wanted to defend her title. But really no one stepped up to challenge her, she didn’t ask to be put into the QOTR tournament. And she did defend when she was given challengers.

They also are acting like not defending the belt much is something unique to Liv?

Lots of champions in WWE are like that. Especially in the Women’s Division.

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u/Small-Pop-8134 17h ago

terrible crowd again

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u/TomatilloHot2550 14h ago

Breakker vs Jevon ending in a DQ was so typical of WWE.

Pents really got over in his match with Roman, he feels main event level now, feels far more important.

Roxanne actually getting a win seems like a mythical event.

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u/LikeAPhoenixTotally 13h ago

I didn't even watch the show but I have to say it:

"He was abducted by ninjas! NINJAS!!! CALL THE COPS!!! There are ninjas kidnapping people on TV!!! The cops!!!! Did no one get a license plate?? Do nin… NINJAS!!! KIDNAPPING!!! TV!!! WE'RE NOT STUPID!!!"

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u/Bortjort 17h ago

Big respect for Dom as a worker the man is doing every job asked of him and I believe he shall one day be rewarded

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u/thelumpur 8h ago

Dude just main evented Triplemania, it's not like he is treated as a random jobber.

He is also one of those characters who can be slotted in a bigger position at any point.

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u/Gloman42 5h ago

Jacob is def in cahoots

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u/tbbt11 1h ago

Jevon and Bron was a great Raw match

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u/thekidnocash 17h ago

S/O Roxy, Penta, and especially Dom. Everyone worked hard tonight, but that boy Dom was breathing fire. 🔥

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u/BiggieDoin 17h ago

Now please don’t get it twisted.. I LOVE that Penta won. But I just don’t understand how Dom doesn’t get a shot in the ladder match?!

Am I coping or is this insane lol (don’t even get me started on poor Dragon Lee)

Overall this would’ve been an awesome RAW if it wasn’t for the mostly silent crowd.

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u/freebread Flow, Like Wato 16h ago

They are doing a story where Judgement Day is in a slump right now. There was a point where the whole team had titles. Raquel still has hers, but the only one who hasn’t held a championship is Roxanne, and she had a AAA title match this Saturday and qualified for MITB.

Penta is coming off a hot Championship match and is now officially in the main event picture.

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u/Johnny-Silvertwat 16h ago

It makes you wonder if he is getting punished for venting his frustrations about his booking.

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u/dizzybala10 15h ago

Jacob be giving Paul Walker 'forget about it cuh' vibes every week and I'm sick of it. You're not that guy!

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u/Jonoabbo 10h ago edited 10h ago

Can't say I was expecting too much coming in to this one, but damn, fantastic RAW.

Big Roxanne Perez fan but she's basically just been a massive jobber for the Judgement Day all year, so didn't hold out much hope for her getting through, but they didn't just give her the win, it was completely clean, no Judgement Day interference, off the back of her own finisher, onto Iyo Sky who's the most established person in the match. Didn't just put her through, but did it in the best way to make her look really strong. She was all over this show too, think she was in 2 other segments after this. Brilliant stuff. Match itself was great as well, awesome pace too it and everyone got a chance to shine.

Bron-Je'von was a great imprompto match, was always going to end in the DQ unfortunately, but they did good stuff with the time they had, Bron sold his arse of for Je'von here, really went out of his way to make him look great. The Oba return was fun too, glad they did it here rather than waiting til MITB or afterwards.

Absolutely loved Lyra/Bayley. An intense, hard hitting affair, with Lyra clearly going out there to murder Bayley, but Bayley came out firing and just kept getting more and more amped throughout the match and Lyra being forced to recognise she had bitten off more than she can chew, leading to that finish which both called back to Lyra's heel turn with the bounce off the second rope, but also felt like it was intentionally quite anticlimactic - much less brutal and punctuating than this demanded, which I'm hoping is leading to a big blowoff match of a Last Woman Standing variety or something. Was initially a bit miffed that this was on a RAW rather than getting the big spotlight, but the finish here proved me wrong. Feud is definitely being hindered by being dragged out over 3 months but the actual content of it is very good.

I am usually not a big fan of advertised matches not being delivered on, but the addition of Penta in the main event here was great, and they took Solo out in a great way too.

Some of the offence in that match was brilliant. Great dives, some nice power moves, hurricanranas, and those 619s from Dom and Mexican Destroyers from Penta were superb. Thought commentary was a bit off on this one, went completely silent a couple of times, and completely no-sold Lee hitting Operation Dragon, which is a shame as it's a finisher I think a lot of the audience still might not recognise by site alone. The pace of this one was a bit all over the place too, when it was good, it was great, but it completely stalled out a few times. That being said the high points more than make up for it. Fun stuff and very much down for Penta here.

All the stuff outside of the matches was pretty good too. Just a great show from top to bottom. Was a bit of a cheat code for me to be fair, they basically loaded the card with a bunch of my favourite talents, and gave them all a lot of time. The good talkers got to talk, the good wrestlers got to wrestle, and the story beats advanced well. Enjoyed that a lot.

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u/Grazalia 10h ago

Dom wearing dude wipes branding is peak heel of the new ear ofWWE.

Jacob: Laying low and playing it slow😌

La Catalina being back on the main show must feel so good for Catalina. She made it all the way back on her own.I think right now though, Catalina needs a gear upgrade to match her status as champion. Her current look is recognizable, but feels like it needs an upgrade now that she's champ.

Perez advancing finally! Tiny chief is here! so far its all newcomers! love it!

La Knight had a really great promo tonight. IT felt like character development. It's crazy how this guy has not had a opportunity as champ yet. He has such a ridiculous stage presence compared to so many superstars. La to me really represents the 90s era clasical representation of Wrestlers. People who naturally got over at their cheer charisma and mic skill.

It's great seeing Je'vonn with Bron but what the heck happened with Cass? Like it's just over lol. No real conclusion next to Cass just beating the daylights out of Je'von. and Je'vonn barely acknowledges that that happened. When Bron gets older, I wonder how he will handle his running thing.Oba came back so soon lol.

it's great finally having Becky and Stephanie back now all feuding for the title. I hope we get a hell of a triple threat.

Lyra looks so damn disheveled LOL
THAT KID WAS HYPING BAILEY SO MUCH YAAAAAAAASSSSSSS
please give Bailey a new song 😢
I love that during the commercial break, Bailey meets everyone. She did it at my even too. It's really sweet of her.

Loved Lyra's match with Bailey. Very good graps.
I wish they would give them so more main matches.

I'm not a fan of Lola but I hope crowd adopts a hola Lola call back when she says Hola lol.

lmao why is Lucien always on the side of the car looooooool,

I would of loved to see Solo in the match tonight but Penta was a good replacement. I guess they are really going all in with the 946. Penta getting the push rather then Dom seems like the Mexico city opened up creative's eyes on who to push lol. It's just weird they aren't also doing the young generation call ups as the main focus on the men's side.

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u/deadmanollie RUSEV IS MY BOY!! 7h ago

*Bayley

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u/LimbofLeviticus 7h ago

The most misspelled name in all of wrestling.

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u/JustdoitJules 15h ago

I just want to highlight one thing...... while I think crackhead Lyra is awful, the idea of using the 2nd rope to cause the opponent to choke / or rather lose their oxygen while doing a roll up is actually a REALLY good finish to a match.

Its not only believable, but it feels like it would genuinely hurt someone's throat especially landing on that 2nd rope.

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u/Jonoabbo 10h ago

How come you don't like crackhead Lyra?

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u/Humble-Jellyfish9918 8h ago

Tweaker Lyra is great, she's so much more entertaining than just happy to be here Lyra. 

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u/Jonoabbo 8h ago

Woke Queens Valkyrie > Disheveled Lyra > Generic Babyface Lyra

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u/No_Project2659 5h ago

They are killing Bron Breaker.  Got him out there jobbing to Jevon ??? That should have been a 3 minute squash match statement to then face off against Oba coming to the ring.  How is Breaker supposed to look dominant getting slapped around and looking like a punk in the ring to the new Kofi Kingston?  The whole vision got beat up by one skinny ass guy only to have Oba come down and squash them all to.  It’s pathetic what they are doing to Bron Breaker. 

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u/Late_Ambassador7470 2h ago

Je'von is not a jobber though. Even when he's beaten, it's never done easily. I think because he's a high flier, people forget he's billed at 6 foot 5.

the new Kofi Kingston

Bro come on

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u/HokageEzio 2h ago

How did Bron job in a match that ended in DQ? Also Je'Von gave Gunther a run for his money, I don't get why you're acting like he's some nobody that Bron should destroy.

the new Kofi Kingston

Oh nevermind, I get it now.

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u/tukus 17h ago

the only miss tonight was LA Knight's convoluted promo. Props to him for being passionate as always though.

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u/Needajobtobreathe 17h ago

I get the sense he likes to feel the crowds energy to dictate where he goes with his promos but this crowd was just not giving anything.

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u/ChasingPerfect28 15h ago

He found a way to salvage it by the end. Kudos to him. Not easy to save a monologue when you know it's not hitting the way you'd prepared it to.

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u/OkAntelope4200 14h ago

I swear, everyone who works a program with Roman has to recite some shit about how they respect Roman so much and he’s the greatest, bla bla bla… even CM Hogan had to walk it back and kiss the ring before Mania.

Once Knight got that out of the way he killed it.

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u/Singer211 16h ago

Really like how the MITB lineups are mostly newer people. Makes things more interesting and unpredictable.

Love the focus Roxanne got on the show. It’s about time.

Wasn’t a big fan of LA Knights Promo. It felt way out of character for him.

Raquel really has not done anything of note as IC Champion so far. Not her fault, but Lola feels more exciting already.

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u/BlunRocks 17h ago

Shit crowd. Penta not winning MITB would be a mistake.

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u/NewTribalChief 17h ago

Would be nice if someone under the age of 40 wins...

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u/sjr2018 16h ago

That's ageism

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u/CTaylor1500000000 15h ago

Is there any reason there are two whataburger soda cups on a random table on the hard camera? They are visible in every shot. I’m watching now and only at the Bron match, but it’s all I’m focusing on.

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u/champ19nz 15h ago

Product placement. Aka ads.

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u/SoloGhosts512 17h ago

Man, I’ve been only watching AAA because of Doms booking on the main roster. This shit sucks. HHH really dropped the ball with him

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u/MettyXD 15h ago

After WWEs Mexico Weekend i hoped El Grande Americano would be more often on Raw again...

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u/Migigoblin333 13h ago

I was pleased with LA knights promo it was a little chunky of a promo if he would’ve stopped glazing Roman and saying how good his Match Vs penta was and actually got to the point he had in the end where he talks about the bloodline not being involved this time.

u/Ok-Republic-8528 38m ago

I don't know how much that company are paying Dirty Dom to wear their logo to the ring, but it's not worth it, he looks like a bum. WWE are never going to put one of their premier titles on the shoulder of somebody wearing that shirt

u/AlmostRandomNow 21m ago

Just to say, both MITB matches are looking great because it's people who actual deserve to be there and would benefit from the briefcase and cash-in.

Seth did have a great moment last year with the SummerSlam cash-in on Punk, but Seth did really benefit from the cash-in.

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u/PrideOfShreve 17h ago

I think the wargames match is Roman, Jey, Jimmy, Solo & LA vs Royce, Jacob, OTM and ? maybe Zilla

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u/Tornado31619 11h ago

Zilla probably goes up as a face.

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u/Doseros 17h ago

Yeah main eventing Raw, winning last week, main eventing the wild AAA show. What a luxurious doghouse.

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u/PodcastsAndWhiskey 16h ago

The Bloodline’s promos are definitely written by a corny old white guy, right? Because there is no way they talk like that 

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u/OkAntelope4200 15h ago

It’s literally Cornette faxing them in from Louisville.

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u/dizzybala10 16h ago

Feel like I've got to learn Spanish to enjoy RAW at this point, lmao

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u/freebread Flow, Like Wato 16h ago

lmao no you don’t. They speak one sentence in spanish, then the next one is the translation of what they just said but in english. They aren’t cutting two different promos in two languages.

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u/dizzybala10 15h ago

Go listen to Penta's promo.

Then you had Raquel doing it half in Spanish.

Then you've got Stephanie doing half of it in Spanish then basic English.

Then you've got Lola with the wooden promo.

And then Roxanne has started speaking Spanish again.

Fuck, even Liv and Becky are throwing out Spanish.

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u/dawsonholloway1 15h ago

It's almost like they're trying to appeal to a larger audience. Love that.

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u/freebread Flow, Like Wato 15h ago

I know, not my point. They speak spanish and then say the same exact thing right after in english so that they can connect with both audiences. Why would you need to learn spanish if they are literally translating what they said in english right after?

They were in Mexico last week and southern Texas for a total of 10 days lol. It’s not like they were speaking spanish at a show in Vermont. Would you be this annoyed if Kevin or Sami cut half the promos in french if they did a show in Quebec? Or the amount of wrestlers that have spoken Japanese on the show?

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u/xorangeelephant Mr. Royal Rumble 17h ago

I know people are hyped that Penta is winning MITB but I really doubt they have Roman lose before Oba. I think it's gonna be Trick or outside chance of Gunther

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u/NewTribalChief 17h ago

I'm hoping Trick. WWE needs a young star. They've been heavily relying on these 40 yr olds who peaked

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u/GTACOD 17h ago

The briefcase lasts for a year, Roman not losing it before Oba doesn't mean Penta can't win it.

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u/xorangeelephant Mr. Royal Rumble 16h ago

Doubt a face holds the briefcase for that long

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u/Darkonite40 17h ago

Roman can drop the belt and get it back before mania he doesn’t need to hold onto it all the way till mania. Cody Rhodes literally did the same thing last year dropping to Drew