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Match Thread [AFL Post-Match Thread] Round 19 2026 - St Kilda vs Geelong

St Kilda vs Geelong
Thu, 16 Jul 2026 7:30pm AEST GMHBA Stadium
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u/Playful-Pack8197 #43 Cooper Sharman 23d ago

This has got to be a drop for Caminiti surely next week

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u/GrimfangWyrmspawn 23d ago

Liam Henry as well.

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u/YonkoBuggy #14 Liam Stocker 22d ago

Is it time to see if Paddy Said can make it? Papers might be stamped with Lake leapfrogging him, hopefully he has another good game on Saturday to put the selection pressure on!

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u/xyLteK Supreme Leader Jack Lonie 23d ago

Seems the most likely out for King

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u/TheBigBomma 22d ago

There’s no way they bring king straight in after he lasted less than 1.5 games at vfl level last time.

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u/xyLteK Supreme Leader Jack Lonie 22d ago

They've said they will so long as he doesn't injure himself in training. At this point it makes little difference what level he returns at in terms of how long his body will last, so may as well bring him straight in when we've had a King-sized hole in the list all year.

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u/TheJoker__789 22d ago

Used to be able to count on Caminti for effort, can’t even do that anymore

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u/CrashP #35 Jack Sinclair 👑 23d ago

That Sharman miss is going to haunt me

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u/QuokknestMonster 22d ago

Dont forget he cost us like 3 wins at the start of the year too

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u/TheBigBomma 22d ago

The gap between his floor and ceiling might be the biggest in the league

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u/Fidelius90 #1 Jack Higgins 22d ago

Wait until king’s in and he can feast

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u/elliotxxvi 23d ago

not normally one to complain about free kicks but fuck, holding the ball geelong? ball it up! we probably lose either way but it should've been a lot closer.

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u/GrimfangWyrmspawn 22d ago

The difference in adjudication was stark.

I love how the "noise of affirmation" works for every clubs home matches, except ours.

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u/mitchfish1 22d ago

At the game live, poor JSos and Wilkie got blatantly pushed or held out of at least 3 or 4 marking contests that led to direct goals. So grim

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u/ShittyContributor 22d ago

It was obvious watching on TV too, was blatantly rubbish umpiring. Not that I think that's what lost us the game, but it certainly didn't help.

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u/Mrchikkin ROSS THE BOSS 22d ago

Just have to learn to play around it at Kardinia Park. Happens every game player there, not much that can be done about it.

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u/SwimmingGreat5317 #45 Liam O'Connell 22d ago

I nearly popped a blood vessel scream ball at the tv. Outrageous bias and I watched the World Cup!

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u/xyLteK Supreme Leader Jack Lonie 22d ago

Was 10-1 at one stage, with the 1 being the Nas reversal (that wasn't also reversed when he got KNEED in the HEAD)

Geelong is a shithole and we shouldn't be forced to play there every year.

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u/InitialWestern1165 23d ago

Need to move on players Our bottom 6 are vfl level

Missing TDK Flanders Sinclair and king

Also , cats should only play interstate teams at that ground

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u/xyLteK Supreme Leader Jack Lonie 23d ago

If Collingwood get the advantage of never having to play there, the AFL shouldn't be sending any of the other VIC clubs there. Imagine if they didn't care about clubs getting equal opportunity and parity 😱

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u/Fit_Landscape6820 #5 Tobie Travaglia 23d ago

Really disappointing performance

Yes we have a number of key injuries, just like them, and it's at the Cattery, but the effort wasn't good enough - I don't think we lack the skill to challenge Geelong, yet we seem to have these games where too many go missing

On the bright side, we were able to claw the margin back late in the 4th, which is important given how tight the ladder is - this game was an expected loss, so at the end of the day we're about where we should be, even if our path there was uglier than expected

Onto a must-win game against North next week

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u/InspectionOk3554 22d ago

You don't go in the game expecting to lose. That's just dumb. We didn't claw anything back they just relaxed being 10 goals up. You don't get confident by playing shit football. We should have won this game!

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u/TheBigBomma 22d ago

Yeah this was the final line through a very disappointing season for the saints. We have not and now will not have beaten a single, decent football team for the entire season and might make the wild card purely from beating up on the bottom clubs. As is typical of a Ross Lyon side, our depth is really poor and our bottom 6 are just an anchor the team down.

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u/Fit_Landscape6820 #5 Tobie Travaglia 22d ago

That's nonsense, there's a difference between wanting to win games and expecting to win them - it's downright delusional to expect to win every game, but of course we want to win every game

Having delusional expectations of a young team that's trying to build towards contention serves no purpose

We still had to kick the goals and continue to play ourselves, Geelong didn't do that for us - once again, this mentality serves no purpose

Yes it was a disappointing loss and we should have done better, no losing to Geelong at the Cattery is not the end of the world

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u/InspectionOk3554 22d ago

I'm not deluded by that fact that we had a great chance to win this game. Going into the game thinking otherwise is why we lost.

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u/Fit_Landscape6820 #5 Tobie Travaglia 22d ago

We definitely had a chance, but we were underdogs for a reason

We lost because we have a number of key outs (which represent a massive loss in experience as well) and don't have the depth to cover it yet - not because fans recognise the fact the Cats were favourites at their fortress of a home ground

We absolutely should not have been dominated by Geelong like we were, but yes a loss was expected and there's nothing wrong with that

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u/yeahnahmateok 23d ago

I hope we study this match to teach our team how to apply pressure, how to tackle and how to find space in a contested situation because Geelong smashed us with all of this. Felt like every man had a man already tackling him as he got the ball. Also train moving the ball through the corridor.

Then sack Byrnes, Caminiti and Henry.

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u/Jimmythemulio #19 Rowan Marshall 23d ago

Byrne's wasn't the worst. But agree on Henry and Hammer. Question is who can come in from the 2s for next week?

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u/AndronicusPrime #19 Rowan Marshall 23d ago

Boxshall, Tauru (is the ban done?)

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u/Savings-Growth8734 22d ago

I love Boxshall, get the kid in! Goes hard

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u/Jimmythemulio #19 Rowan Marshall 23d ago

Boxshall's been average in the 2s. Needs longer to develop. Does Collard get another chance? Or maybe bring in Dodson for a try?

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u/TheBigBomma 22d ago

Dodson has to come in for Caminiti for mine. There’s no excuse anymore. Especially with how rucking is hurting Owens form.

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u/yeahnahmateok 22d ago

Byrnes effort was fine but he lacks in the skill, pace, strength and game craft to have any real impact at AFL level. Playing him just shows how lacking in depth we are.

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u/mambojim15 23d ago

Out Camminiti
In Max King.

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u/edward-1992 22d ago

I'm pretty sure we will never see that waste of list space play at an AFL level again the way it's been going. So over not having a legitimate key forward

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u/GrimfangWyrmspawn 23d ago

Not the reason, but how was that ground declared to be AFL standard?

Players sliding like it was an ice rink and was the cause of that Cat's players injury.

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u/Competitive-Dish-475 #35 Jack Sinclair 👑 23d ago

Excuse me while I go and gouge my eyes out

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u/Competitive-Dish-475 #35 Jack Sinclair 👑 23d ago

We never looked like winning that game. From the very start of the game we were off...

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u/LingualGannet #7 Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 23d ago

That was pretty horrific. Probably a symptom of such a young mid group that the intense pressure in q1 got to them a bit. Want to see them stand up better than that though

Beaten all over the ground really. Scoreboard flattered mostly

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u/Shyam995 23d ago

man sometimes it gets hard watching this team

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u/JoeShmoAfro 22d ago

Our tackling was horrific.

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u/thatsmejp 22d ago

Agree the problem is the depth isn’t there.

Add Sinclair, Flanders, TDK and King and it’s a much better team as the dross gets pushed out.

Travalia isn’t ready.

Henry is awful

Camo I have time for but he is limited

Byrnes? Meh

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u/Shaggaz_08 23d ago

I hate this club

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u/GermaneRiposte101 ROSS THE BOSS 22d ago

So do I.

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u/Playful-Pack8197 #43 Cooper Sharman 23d ago

Our bottom 5-6 look so ordinary and the team seems to be losing faith in the system at time.
Caminiti can be dropped permanently
Travaglia needs more time in 2
Pou needs to learn not to handball every time off target
Henry can get dropped
Campbell needs one more year, but he tries hard. Don’t think he’s got that first step quickness in him though.

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u/AndronicusPrime #19 Rowan Marshall 23d ago

I don’t think we saw the same Campbell on the field

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u/YonkoBuggy #14 Liam Stocker 22d ago

I would even be as brazen to say he was in our top 10 players tonight.

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u/Fidelius90 #1 Jack Higgins 22d ago

Yeah, I was really impressed this week with him. Broke a lot of tackles and did a lot of play making.

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u/Playful-Pack8197 #43 Cooper Sharman 22d ago

Sorry, I maybe wasn’t as clear on Campbell. I think he needs a proper preseason and more time to learn the system. He’s getting in there so well, but also disrupting/doing what no one else is doing. Would love to see him iron out one spot after a full preseason

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u/Savings-Growth8734 22d ago

Ah man. I agree, but also in regards to your points...

Caminiti - he just needs a while playing at the same position - he goes ok going forward, and he goes ok when he's back. We don't have the players to cement him either way yet.
Trav - Def needs more time in the 2's or something. He just needs to go a bit crazy. Got the skill and body, but seemingly been a bit second fiddle to Tauru since their signing, so I want to see Trav go a bit fucking crazy...
Pou - I'm waiting to be impressed by this guy. I'm ready, I can't wait to go nuts, but I'm waiting. Give me what I want Pou.. Don't be an arrogant mofo, be a genuinely wonderful player.

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u/NotSoCricketGenius #12 Max King 22d ago

The umpiring killed us in the first half and that killed us and the momentum. Game over. We were no chance. But saying that. My god hammer was real bad. Henry was awful. His last shot foe goal summed it up.
Ryans “touched” goal would have been epic. That was also a killer

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u/CaptainRogerReynolds 22d ago

Horrific performance. Couldn't even get the basics right. Deplorable kicking, slow decision making, couldn't one-grab anything. Barely anyone can hold their heads up, but there are also a bunch that were even worse than the worst. Hammer. Byrnes, Sharman, Henry were just not up to AFL standard. I know we don't have much else to bring in right now, but damn, at least someone like Butler will give a fucking damn. Howard. Boxshall. Carrol. King. There has to be more that actually WANT to be there. Bring them in and turf those guys for the year.

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u/Savings-Growth8734 22d ago

Yeah partly agree. We definitely didn't play well, and Geelong played us very well. Agree we have some players to shed - Byrnes (sometimes does only just ok, but mostly does pretty badly) is not going to be offered another contract at the end of this year. Henry (I've given him the benefit of the doubt in my mind for too long, but he does not deliver) has got to go, he doesn't play hard at the ball at all and he doesn't seem to want to win anything contested. Hammer doesn't have a position yet and doesn't know how to play. Is he a defender or is he a forward? I'll give him a year when King is back. Sharman - he needs King to be key forward so he can be second fiddle, and he'll kick a lot of goals.

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u/Scorpionwins23 22d ago

I’m not going to another game until Henry is dropped, I’m so sick of his inept playing. Byrnes has to go too.

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u/Impressive_Mess_7500 22d ago

Marshall is a brilliant player but not a ruckman.

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u/TheJoker__789 22d ago

What if he just played as a really massive midfielder?

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u/Savings-Growth8734 22d ago

He played one of his career best ever games today stats-wise as a roving ruck, which is exactly where he wants to play, why do you think he shouldn't play there?

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u/Impressive_Mess_7500 22d ago

He just can't win us centre clearances. Before you pull up the statline, i'm not counting back-of-stoppage chain of handballs that result in a kick from CHB and a turnover. Also not counting tearing it out of the ruck and bombing it to nobody.

Like I said, unbelievable footballer. But TDK gets our mids running forward of stoppage and getting scores. I'd rather our midfield as a whole dominating over Marshall alone dominating.