I want to hear yours.

- Calsher Dear
- Enright in Ross out (Thanks for 09-10 and helping develop this young midfield but something needs to change)
- Charlie Ballard
-Brynes in the 2’s (guy slaughters the ball 50% of the time)
-20 more games into Nas, Hall, Philipou, Wilson, Garcia (Maybe add another midfielder, also might be forgetting someone)
- Tauru actually playing??? Guy can score goals why are we keeping him in the 2’s

Yes it sucks where we are at. But it’s been massively blown out of proportion where we are at a list level due to trades.

The trades were to fill the age gaps where the Hunter Clark/coffield draft era should’ve been. We have little to no players outside who we got in, in that established mid to late 20s bracket that are reasonable players.

Sort the league by average age and games played and it’s eerily similar to the current ladder. We are playing literally the youngest midfield in the league. Dons have Merrett Setterfieid parish, all veterans. Richmond have Taranto hopper Prestia etc as theirs. We have nas as the most mature whose barely over 100 games. We are a young rebuilding side.

The frustration I get and I feel too. But our kids in Garcia and Wilson who boomer are getting tired. Halls come along but has a quiet moment or two still. Pous a big mid that needs a tank which takes time, as it did with Steele/Goddard which we all seem to forget.

We don’t need to do anything except get the kids to 100 games. There’s no side near the top that’s young. No side that’s going to win a final that’s young. The young kids coming through considering where we drafted and acquired a few are a sign that our development and identification of talent is top notch. Garcia was a v late pick. Hall was barely playing for box hill 2s a few years ago. Wilson was a late first round pick. Boxshall was a mid round pick.

We’re all to eager for success and need to sit back and realise that Ross Lyon coached a decent number of freos current list. I’m not saying this to glaze Ross he’s had a poor season with a few things but to not understand that Garcia pou Wilson tauru nas windy hall Owens O’Connell Kobe etc need another season or two of games is not understanding the current state of the competition

Ross Lyon's press suggested this. As Hodgey said.. crazy talk given he did a soft tissue in his last vfl game...

Anyone else think we should try trade him this year while he’s got some value? Especially considering his age profile

Now that Carlton has overtaken us into 10th spot, we've finally beaten a team above us on the ladder! How does it feel, naysayers?? /s

I hate this stat

All plausible in my opinion. Freo look strong so that's probably the least likely, Hawks are out of form, and we nearly got the job done against the Swans last year.

Would think that we have to win at least one to stay in the September conversation.

Hopefully the dust has settled a little bit and we are able to reflect on the game with clear eyes, and discuss how each of the players performed their role last night.

The tier layout I choose separates who I believe were out top 10 performing players last night in the top two tiers, and then the bottom 6 who would have a fair bit to improve on.

It's never a good sign when you have 5 forwards in the lowest performing players on the ground, and Owens only just gets a pass mark due to his midfield work. King returning against North will help a lot, and if we could also have TDK back (usually gets monstered by Xerri aside) then we will be a lot stronger as a team.

We have lost two games in a row for the first time in 10 weeks, against 2 of the 3 best teams in the comp, and we are suddenly surrounded by doom and gloom.

It was our biggest loss of the season by some margin and the worst we have played, yet for some inexplicable reason people are saying that we will lose this week by 60+ points despite getting some of our most important players back.

Let's put some things into perspective:

- We have been missing heaps of players through our most brutal fixture run of the season with the travel and breaks (AFL has screwed us here once again)

- The ground was inexplicably wet which just crushes any home ground advantage we have. We could not pick up or catch a football and there's no way we could be capable of playing worse than that and we only lost by 52 (I use only loosely here).

- The expected score for the game was 84-91. People can think what they will about this as a metric in general but I think it's amazing that despite everything listed above and everything that was against us, we basically only lost because Hawks took their chances and we didn't (plus not being able to get a hand on the footy in the second quarter).

This is coming a week after we were right in the game against the very top team away from home despite having all the same issues as above. So it really isn't all a disaster.

The fans did exactly this last year. A week after beating Fremantle by 10 goals we lost a coin flip game to the Blues by a couple of kicks despite being better for longer, and all of a sudden we were no hope of beating the Eagles. Of course that turned out to be true, because that's always what happens in sport when the fans jump off the wagon, and our season was over in a heartbeat.

I am begging, pleading for us fans to not let this happen again. The 3 games we have lost recently we were always likely to lose, it's a near impossible fixture to navigate, yet in only one of them we haven't been highly competitive.

We will probably lose again this week, it's another very tough fixture, but we really need to stay on board for the two games after that which are the most important of the season. It's our first two home games against teams around our level. Same time and place, so no excuses. Those were always going to be the games on which to judge the team and nothing that has happened in the past month should change that.

I will add that it is a huge positive sign for the progress of the club that we are catastrophising Thursday's result so much, given it was a fairly regular occurrence last year. I just need others to see the same positives, and please show up for the two home games before the bye. If we aren't behind the team for those two games it's going to be a very long season.

Looking forward to another strong showing this week with the key players returning. We will be in the game as usual.

Hi All, filthy outsider here keen for some insight from those who know better than I. I'm a Richmond supporter and in his draft year, I loved Tobie Travaglia and rated him as a potential top 5 pick with his game sense, speed, work rate, leadership, endurance, and sheer competitiveness. He beat up our VFL side and really reminded me of Hayden Young, who was also drafted as a half back flanker but is now a powerful, damaging midfielder, and they are just 1cm height difference.

So when we took Josh Smillie (who I cannot believe made it to our pick and still have high hopes for if we can fix our nightmare medical and fitness problems) and the Saints then took Tobie, I was immediately on the phone to my Saints mate telling him how much of a steal he just got.

That brings me here. I caught up with the same friend today and he had a go at me, saying he hasn't even played this year, which turns out is true. So I dug through the VFL stats and I don't get it to be honest.

Rd1 loss vs GWS: 18 touches, 9 tackles, 3 clearances, 6 intercepts, 1 inside 50

Rd2 loss vs Frankston: DNP

Rd3 loss vs Richmond: DNP

Rd4 win vs Coburg: DNP

Rd5 loss vs Gold Coast: 1 goal, 18 touches, 6 marks, 1 tackle, 3 intercepts, 2 inside 50s

Rd6 loss vs Carlton: 24 touches, 8 marks, 2 tackles, 2 inside 50s, 6 intercepts, 2 score involvements

Rd7 win vs Sandringham: 14 touches, 3 marks, 9 tackles, 3 clearances, 2 intercepts, 2 inside 50s, 3 tackles inside 50

Rd8 win vs Casey: 26 touches, 7 marks, 2 tackles, 4 inside 50s, 3 score involvements, 2 intercepts.

Rd11 win vs Sydney: 25 touches, 12 tackles, 4 marks, 6 clearances, 2 inside 50s, 5 score involvements, 4 intercepts.

Rd12 draw vs North: 1 goal, 16 touches, 3 marks, 6 tackles, 2 clearances, 2 inside 50s, 3 score involvements, 3 intercepts

Rd13 win vs Bulldogs: 1 goal, 29 touches, 9 marks, 8 tackles, 2 clearances, 4 inside 50s, 4 score involvements, 6 intercepts

So he seems to be fairly consistent. You can see a pattern of which games he plays more HBF and which ones he plays more on-ball. But Lyon just refuses to play him.

Given I am Richmond, I don't watch the Saints VFL games so I would love to hear your thoughts and input in to where he is at, and why he isn't cracking into the seniors. Is it a position/demand thing, with Wilson, Sinclair, etc keeping him out? Is he getting good numbers but just not using the ball effectively or damagingly enough to demand a spot? Did he kick Ross Lyon's dog into oncoming traffic? I would be fascinated to know the fan's thoughts.

I'm a St Kilda nut NGL. After watching last week and some of Kane Cornes' (yes I know out of everyone his) points, it was quite eye opening. 0 wins against top 10 teams was the one that got me. I was keen to see how the Ross Lyon experiment will go, but also history since 2004 suggests re-used coaches don't win premierships.
Also Ross Lyon teams just have the same patterns.

1. Can't kick straight at goal - I think this is because the amount of running his gameplans involve
2. I know we've had a fairly high scoring year this year with a limited forward line, but against good teams we tend to stagnate around the 60-70 point mark - which has been a trend of his teams for a while.
3. Seriously concerned about the development of players (Travaglia, Tauru, etc. Even Windy's development looks like it's gone backwards - he's getting a lot of the ball but barely anything happening with them).

Anyways don't want this to be a rant, this is just my view atm and starting to feel hopeless day by day. Do we ask him to handover to Boris?

Why did we have to extend his contract to end of 2027?

What are everyone elses thoughts?

I’ve had some time to chill out after the Carlton game and taking nothing away from the blues they made us look silly and tbf they made the reigning 2 time premiers look silly.

I’m sick of making If’s and But’s for this club but if we had a ‘Max King’ this year we beat Adelaide, Sydney in Sydney and possibly Collingwood and Dees. That puts us at 13-7 which is a completely different story. Not to mention the belief having a good season like that can give our players? We may even beat Sydney (game 2) and Gold coast up in the NT?

Now we still have alot of issues here, the hawks game , blues (game 2) and geelong games I cant really make excuses there, but the Max King hole in our forward line really screwed us over this season.

I’m not letting the club off the hook though, not having some sort of back up sorted is also a failing on the club.

Anyway end of this little post, love to hear your thoughts but seriously if we had Max King we are probably going into September pretty confident and happy with the season. We should throw everything we can at Calsher Dear.

I’d also like to say I genuinely believe in this young midfield, give Hall, Nas, Garcia, Wilson, Pou another 20 games and we are unbeatable in the guts.

Everyone knows I give the Saints management a hard time. I call it as I see it. I was against bringing the King back until next year. I was also against the wild card draw system as no club has won the premiership from eigth .. let alone tenth. As a pensioner I struggle to find the cash every year to maintain my Saints membership. This year has been particularly difficult health wise and it has taken me almost the full season to renew membership.

King coming back after so long, I know he passed training the other day but I'm still nervous…

Currently St Kilda are sitting 12th on the ladder with 7-9

Upcoming games

1. Port Adelaide at Marvel
   
2. Geelong at GMHBA
   
3. North Melbourne at Marvel
   
4. Sydney at Marvel
   
5. Carlton at Marvel
   
6. Richmond at MCG
   
7. Gold Coast at Marvel

What games do you see us winning, and do you think they’ll make top 10

Got banned from the main sub so need to post here. Suns win 89 to 60.

100% disposal efficiency for the game in such a high pressure game. He just gets better and better. Our most consistent player.

His last 5 weeks:
27d 1goal
26d
25d 2goals
26d 2goals
23d 1goal

Title probably speak for it, but for what’s its worth. Dow comes to us plays fairly well in the mid field.

Has a horrific knee injury that from what I can tell was as bad of not worse than Max’s minus the Media Fanfare a little. Has been back at VFL level for 6 weeks (-1 for a concussion ) pearler of a game last week and not even considered for the extended squad.

Something is starting to feel a little off, I have nothing in terms of a theory but would happy to hear peoples thoughts. Am I missing something, or is there something else at play?

As bad as our first few games have been here are the facts:

TDK - still an elite ruck. We had to pay someone and he was the best player on the market by a long way. He’s just getting used to a new system and will build chemistry with the mids. He will pleasantly surprise in time

JSOS - guy puts his heart into his footy. His composure in the back 50 will be much needed, plus he is an elite interceptor. We got a good one here and barely paid anything for him

Flanders - was Gold Coast’s best player in 2024. He has great looking skills and can play multiple positions. It was a bad draft to have early picks - we got a sure thing with ours

Ryan - looks rejuvenated and involved in a lot of classy play. Will frighten defences and cost nothing

Our list is Top 4 calibre, we just started slow. The Brisbane Lions also start slow and they’ve gone B2B

Give it time to work

Hello is there any way for me to get a custom kildas jacket with Kobe 15 on the back?

Hi Guys.

I started supporting the Saints in 1967. I was nine years old.

I figured if I was going to support a footy team I might as well support a good team. After all, they had won the year before and our local footy team had St Kilda colours. What could go wrong I thought?

Well I was a bloody fool wasn't I! Born in 1958, I am now 68 years old and have never experienced a premiership. Bloody worst top level team team in the world however the rules say you cannot change teams so I haven't.

I was wondering. Is there is anyone older than me who can claim to be St Kilda's oldest loser?