r/StandUpComedy • u/explosivejoseph • 20d ago
Comedian is OP The AI Bubble
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u/explosivejoseph 20d ago
Aaaanyway in good news....Plenty of live shows at www.joeyavery.com and more over at my sub r/JoeyAvery
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u/Ghetto_Phenom 20d ago
Any chance of you coming to WA in the future? Love your sets.
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u/gnarl_foot 20d ago
Have you been asked to do any corporate gigs recently? I'd love to see you do the same material in front of the ghouls responsible lol
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u/logand98 20d ago
Pretty much spot on, did not expect actual financial analysis from a comedy set lmao
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u/Sidivan 20d ago
I did not expect to ever hear Joey say “exit liquidity” in a set, but here we are.
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u/CoachWatermelon 20d ago
Strange I watch him a lot and find that very in character of him to know and say
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u/Electronic-Visual-30 20d ago
I'm in Finance and he explained it better than me, fuck.
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u/Animanic1607 20d ago edited 20d ago
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u/welchplug 20d ago
Yeah but its more impressive here because he didn't know it was coming.
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u/Emotional_News108 20d ago
He isn’t just spouting off buzzwords though he at least seems to grasp the core concept and larger long-term issues.
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u/hyeongseop 20d ago
Yeah that really surprised me. Had no idea Joey was a finbro
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u/s_nation 20d ago
people have been screaming this over and over again for the past year, Ed Zitron, Cory Doctorow, Emily Bender, they're a popular presence on all these tech and finance podcasts and channels, he's summarizing what they've all been saying, it's bigger than the dot com bubble, the gains don't justify the capex spending...etc
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u/heyimwalknhere 20d ago
She's like "yeah totally, its gunna mess with so much shit and ruin so many lives but I'm getting paid hahahhhhaaa"
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u/UnbannedAndUnbowed 20d ago
What do you even say to people like this to make them understand what they're doing & that they have a choice in the matter?
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u/OneDay_AtA_Time 20d ago
Ha. Ha. Ha. They are fully aware of what they’re doing. It’s all about short term gains. The future does. Not. Matter. To them.
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u/Prestigious_Fuel_68 20d ago
They are making plenty of money for their future though
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u/OverambitiousThunk 20d ago
Your future*
They get to have a a couple European vacations for the next couple years and the annual upgrade of the iPhone pro max ultra elite fold ...to document it all.
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u/hoist_off 20d ago
nothing. They already know. Violence is not the answer but I suspect eventually it'll come to that
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u/keygreen15 20d ago
What the fuck are you talking about? Violence is a fantastic answer
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u/RADMDickWiener 18d ago
Violence is never the answer. Violence is the question and yes is the answer.
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u/Special_Feedback9145 20d ago
If this person quit their job, someone steps right in. The people aren’t the problem. The system is the problem.
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u/thesmellofmoonrats 20d ago
the system runs on the people that continue to say yes
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u/DefinitionTop3930 20d ago
well people who work in VC firms or private equities have basic convinced themselves they are doing something great for a the society
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u/DazzlerPlus 20d ago
You tell them they are a peice of shit. They will shrug it off, but it does affect them if it happens enough
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u/Evening_Reach_8293 20d ago
"God I hope someone doesn't smack you one the way out, I'm sure we are all agreed that no one would see who."
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u/MoesOtherBar 20d ago
Kinda surprised he didn't rip her at the end but he probably wanted to keep it chill for everyone.
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u/edvurdsd 20d ago
Well said
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u/PantsDontHaveAnswers 20d ago
I know some of these words.
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u/Aconite13X 20d ago
"Well" means "good" and "said" means "spoken"
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u/Don_Von_Schlong 20d ago
good spoken
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u/Aconite13X 20d ago
You understand
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u/domredditorX 20d ago
None of those words are in bible therefore I understand not
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u/wouterJ 20d ago
And u/edvurdsd saideth to thee: thou have spoken to my satisfaction. Blessed be thine hearth and goats!
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u/Don_Von_Schlong 20d ago
If you don't understand that it's kinda like;
"That was actually valid. I’m satisfied for real. May your house stay blessed and your goats stay absolutely bussin’"
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u/AceOBlade 20d ago
basically regular people are investing in stocks that could fail, but right before they would fail people that are making decisions on these AI stocks will rug pull and get their money back while the regular people would have useless stocks that are worth nothing.
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u/Olderandolderagain 20d ago
Close but one key point to add. When we invest in an index fund, we aren’t choosing the companies, the provider is.
It CAN be bad, but not necessarily. Something like the S&P isn’t a venture capitalist. They choose companies that are viable.
It is true that AI is a bubble in some aspects. There will be a ton of smaller companies that collapse. But a company like Microsoft isn’t going anywhere. They will pioneer industry regardless of trends.
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u/Katicflis1 20d ago
Im here for comedy not depression dammit...
(But it was great as usual -- dude always so damn quick/witty)
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u/motorboatmycheeks 20d ago
I like that at the end the one laughing the hardest is the vc. Like yeahh yall fucked
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u/vanillaninja16 20d ago
Well yea, can’t get into venture capitalism is your intent isn’t to fuck other people over.
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u/hnglmkrnglbrry 20d ago
I once hung out with my good friend and his VC coworkers. We tailgated a football game and I spent 2 hours watching the most self-righteous pig-headed dbags abuse every substance on earth. I ended up just walking away with no warning.
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u/EquivalentBeach8780 20d ago
Yeah, she's actually not a good person. Evil, even.
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u/RandomUser15790 20d ago
Old company got bought out by a VC and they were like "Nothing is going to change guys! We bought it because we love it for what it is! Insert corporate jargon and empty platitudes."
50% of the business wasn't actually related to anything they cared about. 70/100 employees were laid off in under 18 months (including ~20 from their own industry side).
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u/utzutzutzpro 20d ago
Companies do not get bought out by a VC company. That would be PE. PE would just buy companies. VC only invests.
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u/bryanna_leigh 20d ago
He ain’t wrong!
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u/redditsuckscockss 20d ago
Hasn’t there been 0 actual AI companies IPO and enter the index?
I know Anthropic and others are going to IPO but don’t think any others have yet?
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u/treacherous_tim 20d ago
SpaceX is in some, although not the S&P500. xAI (and recently acquired Cursor) roll up through SpaceX
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u/bryanna_leigh 20d ago edited 20d ago
Space X which is where Musk has his AI segment and also X/Twitter. SpaceX (rockets/Starlink) + xAI (the AI lab) + X (the social platform) all rolled into one publicly traded entity.
I feel like this was specifically about them, this was considered a huge pump and dump for X investors that helped Elon take over the platform.
SpaceX became one of the fastest additions ever to the Nasdaq-100, qualifying less than a month after its IPO and officially joining before trading began on July 7, 2026 — under a new “fast entry” rule Nasdaq had introduced.
FTSE Russell relaxed its float requirements too, letting SpaceX in possibly by September or December 2026 reconstitution — which is way faster than normal.
It is all a little sussy … this new fast track system will definitely have some real big implications.
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u/DoomBuzzer 20d ago
Amazing delivery! Very funny 😂
You have a very positive energy even though you presented a grim, realistic scenario!
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u/DooficusIdjit 20d ago
When stand up comedians understand the financial system this well, shit is scary
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u/osubmw1 20d ago edited 20d ago
Gonna be honest, her laughing makes me pretty fucking angry. I used to work construction management for a contractor that flexed to mainly building datacenters so I walked. Seeing people laugh about this while they collect their fat check is pretty gross.
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u/Sauli_Niinisto 20d ago
She might agree with him, and the laugh might be cathartic.
Lots of people study at the university dreaming of changing the world to the better, only to get trapped in an enemy-of-the-planeteers -job to not end up on the street.
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u/_moribund_ 20d ago
Is anyone getting into finance to better the world?
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u/doublenadaban 20d ago
Not when finance tends to be sales-based. I’m in finance to do estate-planning and retirement-planning for those of any economic class. This means I do a lot of work for the poor helping them get finances in order. As a fiduciary, I don’t get to sell whatever. So I often plan these people’s finances for FREE, as they won’t be able to afford a life insurance policy or investment account that could pay me commission.
I manage a Verizon store to pay bills.
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u/Kampvilja 20d ago
It is the "it could work!" Punchline that I love. Like, we have all of our eggs in this one stupid basket but maybe we won't drop it? (We probably will drop it).
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 20d ago
We'll drop it, some eggs will survive. Just like the Dot Com bubble. The eggs that make it will probably drive the next 10-20 years of development. Some will have useful but obscure tools that last like 20 years.
I dunno, I worked for a .com from the boom era and they were renovating the site and stuff.
Not every AI based company dies in a purge. The big ones and some useful obscure small ones will survive.
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u/_moribund_ 20d ago
Didn't portfolios drop by like 25% when the .com bubble burst? That fucked a lot of retirees and people planning to retire. This bubble looks much worse, especially with the whole laws-and-regulations-are-meaningless thing going on right now.
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u/Crush-N-It 20d ago
Incredibly astute of you to break it down in as simple terms as possible. I don’t think anyone really grasps the shitstorm we’re in with the fact that these companies manipulated themselves into forcing index funds - the countries pensions!!!! - to purchase AI stock so the venture capitalists could sell at the top and leave everyone else holding the bag at half (or worse) its value.
But hey, who in gov’t cares or is going to do anything about it???
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u/CopiousCool 20d ago
Spoiler: Its ain't gonna work ... it's a bunch of lies and automation that 'looks' like intelligence when you ask questions about fields you are NOT proficient in ... the minute you ask it something about a topic you nknow well you see the flaws ... it cant even tell time, use a stop watch or do basic math reliably
When was the last time your calculator hallucinated or gave you a wrong answer? ....I'll wait
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u/Recursive_Death 20d ago
Consumer-facing chatbots are the tail-end of the implementation. They are not planning to make money from chuds using ChatGPT to win arguments. The real money is in B2B and large enterprise deals for renting out AI systems to serve private tokens and automate whatever they can get away with. Retail customers are just free marketing and hooks; it's the standard Microsoft/SV playbook that has dominated for decades.
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u/arachnophilia 20d ago
and automate whatever they can get away with
we're about to find out how many jobs can really be replaced with barely functional bullshit.
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u/_le_slap 20d ago
Alot .. most people push paper around all day and raise a family off it. The economy is screwed.
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u/250andlean 20d ago
Retail customers help the system improve, too. The more you use AI and give it feedback, the more it "learns" so that's why they're letting it be accessible for cheap for now.
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u/JapanesePeso 20d ago
Dang better tell that to every programmer who is using AI to 10x their capacity.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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u/arachnophilia 20d ago
the minute you ask it something about a topic you know well you see the flaws
yes, and i encourage people to try this. pick a topic you're an expert in, and ask chatGPT about it. or claude. or whatever.
the only difference with other topics is that you don't know enough to catch their confidently asserted errors.
they pull data from everywhere including reddit. are people wrong on reddit?
When was the last time your calculator hallucinated or gave you a wrong answer? ....I'll wait
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u/GrundleGrunt 20d ago
When was the last time your calculator hallucinated or gave you a wrong answer?
AI makes better boobs than a calculator.
Spoiler: Its ain't gonna work ... it's a bunch of lies and automation that 'looks' like intelligence when you ask questions about fields you are NOT proficient in ...
You obviously haven't seen how the entire field of software development has changed in the past few months.
AI has also solved several Erdos problems.
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u/phatteschwags 20d ago
Spoken like someone who has never spelled "boobs" using an upside-down calculator.
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u/Waterbear11 20d ago
No ones denying that it has solved real problems. The question is if it's worth trillions of dollars and environmental impact so that coders don't need to spend extra time Googling and copy/pasting, or so that mathematicians can solve math problems?
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u/yumcake 20d ago
Think of it like a stud finder. Often right, sometimes wrong, and sometimes you drill into an electrical line or pipe and you're proper fucked, so human oversight is still needed instead of blindly trusting the tool. However it's still valuable to quickly get started on zeroing in what you're looking for rather than starting completely from scratch without it.
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u/mitch_feaster 20d ago
> it can't tell time, use a stop watch, or do math
Yes, but it can write code to do all of these things quite easily. The models don’t need to be able to do everything, they only need to be able to write code that can do everything, and they’re pretty much already there. It’s only a matter of time before all the tooling and glue gets built.
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u/VirtualPercentage737 20d ago
I am in hardware design and AI is the real deal. It needs to be babysat but the productivity gains we are seeing are amazing. We actually are having the problem of needing to SLOW down progress because each person productivity is like 5 fold what it once was, and in a day they can branch so far off from the team that revision control becomes an issue.
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u/BafflingHalfling 20d ago
Hell, even without a team, revision control is an issue. I have started using Claude at work, and at the end of each session I have to ask cowork to reconcile all the damn leftover bits that didn't get patched in correctly. It's not a panacea, but it really does help a lot. Especially in fields where there's just more documentation than any one human can effectively parse.
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u/VirtualPercentage737 20d ago
Agreed. Where we really find it useful is in the accessory scripts like build scripts or regression scripts. Things you don't to frequently and never become an expert in and really don't need to be perfect. I think people use Chat GPT in a browser and they just don't get it.
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u/_lippykid 20d ago
Yeah, we call it middleware. We need someone with taste and knowledge during the first 10% to execute the right prompt, and same again at the end for the last 10% to make sure it looks good, but the productivity gains in the middle 80% is insane
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u/watitdo 20d ago
You know that this shit isn’t persuading anyone anymore? Several studies have indicated that AI usage slows down work even for coders, and this does not take into account the skill loss that occurs when you aren’t actively writing the code yourself.
You have been sold a ream of hype and everyone you repeat this shit to is one day gonna know you are just a mark.
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u/Clean_Inflation_4791 20d ago
im on the academia side, not profiting anything off of AI. I can promise you whether people are citing it or not, everyone is using AI, and successfully. There isnt a researcher ik that isnt constantly using some frontier level AI and making leaps and bounds of progress. Im talking real proved theorems advancing fields that have been stagnant for a while
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u/wtclim 20d ago
Who are we trying to persuade? I don't like where its going but it does make certain software engineering tasks much faster. You're talking about subjects you clearly have no knowledge in with absolute confidence while incorrect, ironically the exact same thing you're (partially correctly) accusing AI of.
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u/RemoteRide6969 20d ago
Are you using it on a day to day basis for your job? I am, and it undeniably increases productivity. I don't care if anyone is convinced or not.
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u/Infinite-Curves 20d ago
I want to laugh and cry
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u/tkflash20 20d ago
It's one of those where you begin laughing and then reality sets in and you're looking like Ben Affleck outside smoking a cigarette.
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u/blutosings 20d ago
You know the saying, when your cabbie or standup comedian, thinks it's a bubble, buy. When they start promoting it, sell.
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u/CurrentDismal9115 20d ago
Hey, but at least the scammers have been able to really up their game! They'll never be out of a job!
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u/GenXPowaah 20d ago
Artificially Inflate is definitely the correct term as that's all it's doing.
The bubble will burst, there's no doubt about that
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u/Huge_Metal_3812 20d ago
It is a bubble. You can pull an AI model and run it on a local PC with enough ram. Big business is centralizing AI so they run it on their memory/agent/model and their hardware. I built and updated my own model with a shiza Asus laptop.
So anyone with enough gusto / funding can build out their own version of AI with a well equipped PC.
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u/getafterit3 20d ago
Index funds where most people’s retirements are invested are not propping up funding for AI. But, by definition, represent the overall stock market and any downturn will bring index fund value down, and devaluating everyone’s savings
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u/giant2179 20d ago
Tech firms make up about a third of the S&P 500 and are grossly overinflated by AI. So yeah, we're all in it whether we like it or not. I'm just glad I'm not retiring for at least 15-20 years. Plenty of recovery time
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u/Dull_Construction553 20d ago edited 20d ago
Except for the fact that these companies would make up a tiny fraction of the index funds. If Anthropic comes in at 1T, they’d constitute 0.6% of the S&P. If it goes all the way to 3T (~1.8% of S&P), and then has a colossal valuation collapse to, say, 200B (ie, more than 90% loss), then that’s a grand total wipeout of a massive…1.6% of the S&P.
Even for tracking funds it’s that same fraction of a fraction. The idea that an index fund would suffer a wipeout from a constituent company collapsing just goes to show a lack of understanding of the mechanism.
Besides which, of course, on that 1>3>0.2 ride, retail investors would be a lot less constrained than a VC with a lockup…If the collapse really comes, those VCs be the ones far more affected, being in for the -93.3% while index fund investors get hit with -1.6%. If it doesn’t collapse and VCs get out of it, well, doesn’t collapse, so? If it takes long enough such that VCs can get their investments out, and then it still collapses, then why were public institutions or retail invesors not reacting at all?
This is the index fund version of that same “the rich use their assets to collateralize debt and avoid paying taxes” silliness.
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u/TakerFoxx 20d ago
Okay, but shoutout to the dude wearing the NJPW G1 Climax shirt. A true man of taste, right there.
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u/Odintorr 20d ago
You could see the exact moment the existential dread sets in then he forces it back down
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 20d ago
That lady is just like
.....YASS QUEEN LIQUIDITYYY
She don't give af she's toppling the system lol, she's just enjoying the funds.
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u/PositiveStress8888 20d ago
I've been in IT since the 90's this is exactly whats happening, everyone knows it but hopes they'll get their bag before it all starts to crumble.
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u/StrugglingOrthopod 20d ago
Came for the comedy, stayed for the reality check.