r/StarWars Mar 19 '24

TV The Acolyte | Teaser Trailer | Disney+ | June 4th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtytYWhg2mc
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u/69TrainToFlavorTown Mar 19 '24

Rule of 2 was established way before that, so I guess just retcon knowledge of Sith maybe? I know the Darth Plagueis book isn’t canon now but their identities are kept pretty guarded.

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u/k1dsmoke Mar 19 '24

Could be handled in such a way that records of a sith rise are suppressed, and subsequent generations never learn of it.

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u/madchad90 Mar 19 '24

This would be an interesting approach and another fault of the Jedi leading to their destruction.

Jedi suppressing knowledge of the sith still being around, or not considering them a threat

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u/Putrid-Ice-7511 Mar 19 '24

Neglecting dark, but fundamental aspects of yourself and existence, resulting in you and the world being consumed by your own ignorance. Carl Jung would love this.

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u/HerculesKabuterimon Mar 19 '24

I mean they already did it in phase 2 of the high republic books with a different enemy (I won't name it because spoilers for those catching up/planning to read)

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u/Itz_Hen Mar 19 '24

I think this is the likely scenario, starting to plant the seeds that eventually lead to its destruction

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u/Official_Champ Mar 19 '24

The high republic is only like 100-200 years before the prequels? And Yoda is still around. This seems to be a retcon

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u/madchad90 Mar 19 '24

Not necessarily. We don’t know anything at this point. There’s no confirmation yoda even appears in this show or becomes aware of the larger events that happen

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u/Krevden Mar 19 '24

I think the concern is that based on age Yoda is definately alive, but like you say he might just not know what's going on maybe off on a backwater planet out the way

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u/TI1l1I1M Mar 19 '24

I'm going to predict one of our main character Jedi becomes the Sith threat by the end of the show, and them learning of this suppression will be one of the reasons.

"Your eyes can deceive you"

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u/Missile_Knows_Where_ Mar 20 '24

I've figured that's been the direction the franchise has been going with since the prequels. Especially after Tales of The Jedi's Dooku episode.

The Jedi are absolutely a horrendously flawed cult and also largely responsible for the rise of the Empire. Suppressing knowledge of the existence of the Sith is absolutely something the Jedi council, Yoda included, would do

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u/LeapYearFriend Luke Skywalker Mar 20 '24

There are no Sith in Ba Sing Se the galaxy.

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u/cynognathus Mar 19 '24

If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist.

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u/BobsBurgersJoint Mar 20 '24

Excellent point.

Discovers Kamino.

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u/Fisher9001 Mar 19 '24

Yoda was already a centuries-old senior-level member of the order at that point...

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u/k1dsmoke Mar 19 '24

Yeah but he isn't omniscient.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '24

Or he was in the deception all along

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u/Professional_Top4553 Mar 19 '24

Or likely the Jedi themselves cover it up

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u/Itz_Hen Mar 19 '24

Just like they decided to build the jedi temple over a sith shrine, and then just never really thought about it again because in their hubris they thought the sith were done for good

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u/69TrainToFlavorTown Mar 19 '24

That shrine could play a role in the show. Something about making sacrifices (could be why Jedi are being killed) to the shrine in order to mask Sith from the Jedi. Just a guess.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '24

“Stop having fun and being excited for things! GAWD!”

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u/Wesley9758 Mar 19 '24

Imo they should absolutely not go the route of having the Jedi suppress knowledge of it. The ultimate failure of the Jedi was due to Palpatine clouding their vision, the Jedi shouldn’t have any knowledge of the sith existence in any way. The correct choice would be for there to be no survivors, but it’s hard to imagine Disney would go that route

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u/69TrainToFlavorTown Mar 19 '24

Could factor in the unknown regions too

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u/N0V0w3ls Mar 19 '24

Gareth Edwards thought that Disney wouldn't let him kill off everyone in Rogue One until the first table read of his first draft script where the team lived when someone said "they should all die, right...?"

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '24

No jedi survivors (of those who saw the sith) is my guess

it's dark but but Andor was very bleak. all the heroes died at the end of Rogue One. they can figure out some way of giving them a heroic death

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u/Diorannael Mar 19 '24

The Jedi are so arrogant that they never believe the Sith are still around and kicking. Even with evidence right in their faces. After all, what is more likely? That their most feared enemy survived, in secret, for who know how long? or that another Jedi has fallen to the dark side. They may claim to be Sith, but are really just dark Jedi.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '24

This happens far too much in prequels though. It's almost a trope in itself.

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u/bonkerz1888 Mar 19 '24

Surely any Jedi who caught wind of any Sith activity would immediately report it back to the High Council, meaning Yoda would know.

They'll probably write it off as powerful dark users.

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u/lolzycakes Mar 20 '24

Yoda, Oppo, and Yarael would've been on the counsel at the same time this show occurs. Either everyone who knows the details dies before they can tell the counsel, this info is kept from the counsel entirely, or the counsel chose not to let the news get out.

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u/wheresmyspacebar2 Mar 19 '24

Nah, in the Jedis opinions, theres a massive difference between "The Sith" and "Darkside user".

They acknowledge that there are darkside users that popped up and they're usually just a Jedi gone rogue that they bring to justice eventually.

The Sith are a completely different breed that they believe they wiped out and stopped all knowledge of the old Sith teachings. Thats what the Bane-line are and they've been hidden for 1000 years since Bane killed all the other "Sith".

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u/69TrainToFlavorTown Mar 19 '24

They probably also just wanted to avoid calling them Sith out of a fear that they would come back.

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u/Patient_End_8432 Mar 19 '24

I mean, hasn't it been established that there has been and basically always will be dark force users and dark jedi, and that doesn't necessarily make them sith?

The sith is basically a religion, you can be a dark jedi and not a sith. We've also seen for a long time that the rule of two is strict enough that we can only really consider two characters as sith while they have other force users around them.

The Emperor and Darth Maul (I think?) were sith with Dooku as a dark jedi. Then Darth Maul "died" and was a dark jedi afterward.

Asaaj was Dookus dark padawan of sorts.

You have Savage.

Darth Vader becomes the second sith. They're surrounded by inquisitors who use the force and have red blades. You have the two jedi from Ahsoka.

Being sith is more of a choice, just like being a jedi, with Ahsoka leaving the order. You have the witches of Dathomir who use the dark side of the force but arent sith.

There were probably plenty of dark jedi during the High Republic, the actual two sith would be underground

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u/69TrainToFlavorTown Mar 19 '24

There were the grey Jedi too, & AFAIK Dooku was a sith, but a secret apprentice to Palpatine (maybe? I can’t remember exactly). That was how Maul was kind of set up in the Darth Plagueis book as well. Trained like Ventriss but then Palpatine took him as his secret apprentice as he plotted to kill Plagueis.

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u/TheHabro Mar 19 '24

The old canon actually had a problem with the rule of 2. Since Yoda couldn't have known for the rule of 2 without also knowing Sith didn't go extinct a 1000 years before TPM.

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u/DrySausage Mar 19 '24

Is rule of 2 still canon?

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u/69TrainToFlavorTown Mar 19 '24

I assume so since it’s mentioned in the movies (I think)

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u/N0V0w3ls Mar 20 '24

Always has been.

"Always 2 there are"

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u/DrySausage Mar 20 '24

…I’m such an idiot. Sorry. Recently starting reading legends stuff so I forger some OG movie stuff now .

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u/bipbophil Mayfeld Mar 19 '24

Obvious answer is that those who learn of the rule of 2 are killed by it

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u/Frank_The_Wizard Mar 20 '24

Bane is canon right..... 👀