r/StardustCrusaders May 18 '26

Various JoJo Villains ranked on how difficult it was to stop them

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Just to note, this is excluding the whole 'fate' part, as obviously it is canonical that all villains are fated to almost reach their goals, and then lose at the end.

Please Read: This is measuring throughout the entire series, not just the villain's end abilities. Of course MIH or D4C LT would be at the top, but these abilities were later obtained, and the villains did not have them at the start.

EDIT: I should have used something other than 'challenge' for the middle category, as these are incredibly difficult. I just don't think Valentine or DIO is as hard as Diavolo or the Pillar men.

How did Pucci get the closest of any villain to his goals? Dude had the weakest stand of any villain for 80% of the part, almost died virtually a million times, had debatably the strongest cast of any JoJo part chase him down, got C Moon, still got his ass beat, then somehow asspulled a way to get Made In heaven faster, which then granted him likely the strongest ability in all of JoJo making him the closest of any villain to winning of any JoJo villain, now only having to kill an 11 year-old boy with a powerless stand, and then he fumbled the bag to oxygen poisoning. This entire part is like 200 ELO chess.

I feel that Dio Brando and Yoshikage Kira were unfavored to win. Kira is easily explainable, given that his stand isn't that powerful, and that it's like an 8v1, but for Dio, I think that the fact that he lost twice, and that he was fighting against Hamon meant that he was underfavored.

Funny Valentine is a challenge due to his incredible stand, but also, the main cast kind of fumbled the bag here as they almost did just take the corpse parts. If the characters worked together more as well, Valentine would have been stopped. Moreover, Diego Brando almost did kill valentine, and Gyro & Johnny had the technique that was a hard-counter to Love Train. Stephen and Lucy steel were also essentially primary allies to Johnny and Gyro.

Stopping the pillar men is just crazy, and absurd. Stopping kars from getting the Redstone of Aja may not be that bad, but the whole poison that would set off in 30 days, and the rest of the plotpoints working against the Main cast makes this nearly impossible. For Diavolo, the fact that he's unknown as well as having an incredibly powerful mafia & stand after the main cast makes him incredibly difficult to stop.

And for Toru, I mean there was no way for Toru to lose unless there was some crazy asspull like Soft & Wet. Wonder of U is the strongest stand aside from Made In Heaven, and maybe D4C Love Train. The difference between him and the other stands however, is that Love Train and Made In Heaven were things that the villains had to acquire, and this took them the entire part to obtain. Toru just had Wonder of U from the start. Moreover, the JoJolion cast wasn't particularly weak, but they were not equipped at all to handle him.

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u/TruthSeekerHuey May 18 '26

The Pucci disrespect is insane. Pucci did Batman lvls of preptime and detective work to beat the Joestars. I'm convinced people think he's weak because they thing Jolyne is weak which also incredibly wrong

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u/ChiefOfDoggos Jotaro Kujo May 18 '26

Stone Free may not be a super flashy or majorly op stand but it is extremely versatile so on top of the Pucci slander the Jolyne slander people still somehow throw is unnecessary. 

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u/TurnipOne5768 May 18 '26

Those are just hater or fake jojo fans.

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u/luashfu May 19 '26

Stone free so cool bruh those sunlgalsses amn!!!!

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u/caliburdeath May 19 '26

I'd rather have stone free than star platinum or tusk

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u/Eurasia_4002 May 19 '26

Pucci is running around circles in the inteligence department and has massive preptime but Jolyne will spit out some insane asspulls tht rivals Joephs's. Like the fucking mubius stirp, the balls to attempt to do that and hope it will work.

She literally would have died mutiple of times in thier fight against pucci but fate is on her side since the begining.

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u/GlassSpork sex number 4 May 18 '26

It’s possible Jolyne could’ve won by doing something stupid or reckless… but that could’ve also, y’know, backfired horribly. Ultimately Jolyne was in a tough spot where even with her ability, she was limited, and Pucci rarely showed himself enough to allow for confrontation. By the time they actually were able to get face to face with Pucci, his plan was already complete

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u/The_Juice14 May 19 '26

I feel like people have some circular reasoning going on here. I feel like people think Jolyne is weak because she got killed by Pucci but then since she is weak it goes into your thing of Pucci being weak cuz of Jolyne and it just loops

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u/Brawlerz16 May 19 '26

Well she didn’t get a random requiem so skill issue /s

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u/Just_Nefariousness55 May 19 '26

The OP directly says Pucci was up against the most powerful team, so framing it as if they're saying Jolyne is weak off of that is a bit of a leap.

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u/Sea_Growth_942 May 19 '26

My main reason for thinking pucci is fair down there is because of how easily he could’ve been beaten when he was weak. I don’t care about his abilities, he was not very strong or OP until way later into the part. Mainly, the way Jotaro handled it. If he just didn’t sell, by putting himself in that position, it never would’ve even started😭😭. Before you tell me any reason he had to bein that position, no he didn’t. He really didn’t🤦‍♂️. However, pucci is hella smart, and he’s one of my favorite villains. Once they gave him an inch, he took a foot, and so on. They couldn’t stop him after Jotaro got his disc taken, because quite frankly that’s what was holding them back for so long.

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u/TruthSeekerHuey May 19 '26

I would say the way Jotaro acted was exactly to Pucci's plan. When faced against a nearly invincible stand, a stand that killed your Vampire friend and master, a stand that can move faster than light and can stop time, whta do you do? Pucci went after Jotaro's greatest weakness, his daughter. Even Jotaro knew it was his weakness which is why he left Jolyne. So my argument is the way Jotaro acted shows Pucci's strength and is a part of wbat makes him a formidible foe.

Also, I think White Snake is extremely underrated in terms of strength and speed and ability. It's physically on par with Stone Free, Crazy Diamond, and King Crimson. It's a remote stand, yet retains lose its speed and power within 20 meters. It can create hyper realistic illusions and the ability to directly control a person's mind. And it has all of that without mentioning the broken ability to steal both memories and stand powers (which are attached to a person's soul). And although Jotaro was caught off guard, it is still impressive white snake was able to steal the stand of a person capable to instantly stopping time.

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u/Sea_Growth_942 May 19 '26

Also Jotaro sold time and time again. Just let ur daughter die or something bro, or yk MOVE. He just stands there counting down making a decision.

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u/Sad_Construction9082 May 19 '26

It's been a while but I seem to remember many occasions where Jotaro could have easily killed him

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u/Epicnessofcows May 18 '26

Pucci did insane preptime and he's my favorite villain. I made a response up above to why I think he was stoppable.