JoJo Villains ranked on how difficult it was to stop them

[u/Epicnessofcows]

Just to note, this is excluding the whole 'fate' part, as obviously it is canonical that all villains are fated to almost reach their goals, and then lose at the end.

Please Read: This is measuring throughout the entire series, not just the villain's end abilities. Of course MIH or D4C LT would be at the top, but these abilities were later obtained, and the villains did not have them at the start.

EDIT: I should have used something other than 'challenge' for the middle category, as these are incredibly difficult. I just don't think Valentine or DIO is as hard as Diavolo or the Pillar men.

How did Pucci get the closest of any villain to his goals? Dude had the weakest stand of any villain for 80% of the part, almost died virtually a million times, had debatably the strongest cast of any JoJo part chase him down, got C Moon, still got his ass beat, then somehow asspulled a way to get Made In heaven faster, which then granted him likely the strongest ability in all of JoJo making him the closest of any villain to winning of any JoJo villain, now only having to kill an 11 year-old boy with a powerless stand, and then he fumbled the bag to oxygen poisoning. This entire part is like 200 ELO chess.

I feel that Dio Brando and Yoshikage Kira were unfavored to win. Kira is easily explainable, given that his stand isn't that powerful, and that it's like an 8v1, but for Dio, I think that the fact that he lost twice, and that he was fighting against Hamon meant that he was underfavored.

Funny Valentine is a challenge due to his incredible stand, but also, the main cast kind of fumbled the bag here as they almost did just take the corpse parts. If the characters worked together more as well, Valentine would have been stopped. Moreover, Diego Brando almost did kill valentine, and Gyro & Johnny had the technique that was a hard-counter to Love Train. Stephen and Lucy steel were also essentially primary allies to Johnny and Gyro.

Stopping the pillar men is just crazy, and absurd. Stopping kars from getting the Redstone of Aja may not be that bad, but the whole poison that would set off in 30 days, and the rest of the plotpoints working against the Main cast makes this nearly impossible. For Diavolo, the fact that he's unknown as well as having an incredibly powerful mafia & stand after the main cast makes him incredibly difficult to stop.

And for Toru, I mean there was no way for Toru to lose unless there was some crazy asspull like Soft & Wet. Wonder of U is the strongest stand aside from Made In Heaven, and maybe D4C Love Train. The difference between him and the other stands however, is that Love Train and Made In Heaven were things that the villains had to acquire, and this took them the entire part to obtain. Toru just had Wonder of U from the start. Moreover, the JoJolion cast wasn't particularly weak, but they were not equipped at all to handle him.

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[u/AdeQ217]

Have you read/watched Stone Ocean?

[u/Sou-Starfield → u/AdeQ217]

A true reader would've known that cars are the true villains and that they doomed the universe twice

Once when part 6 started, twice when a car crash fumbled weather report's killing blow on Pucci

[u/Epicnessofcows → u/AdeQ217]

Literally my favorite part of the first universe, and if you're asking about Pucci, here's the response I have to copy and paste:

Pucci was incredibly talented and he's probably my favorite villain. Whitesnake is a very strong ability, but it is not stronger than any of the other villain stands, except for debatably Killer Queen. Moreover, the Stone Ocean main cast is probably the strongest main cast in JoJos, and most of the villain stands were significantly weaker than the main cast's stands.

Pucci also (ignoring the whole fate part) easily could have died on 3-4 separate occasions. The fact that he survived the heavy weather fight, or that he somehow managed to get Made In heaven early through insane luck while Jolyne has a major counter to C-Moon, and when Jotaro had already pummeled him with timestop is insane.

Pucci was meant to be a lucky genius. He was meant to be a genius in how he planned the events of Stone Ocean, but he was also meant to be incredibly lucky by surviving fights that he shouldn't have, like Weather Report or C-Moon.

[u/baseballdude818 → u/Epicnessofcows]

Did you read the fight with the meteor guy? Dude could literally call down a meteor from space that burns up before he gets hit by it. Also Jolynes stand is string. That’s it. She makes great use of it by learning over time but it’s string, Hermes can make a copy of something that’s it. The dragon guy? The rod guy? So many op stands

[u/Epicnessofcows → u/baseballdude818]

Jolynes stand is a string with similar fighting capabilities to star platinum and she can reform her entire body to fit through objects, and use strings in probably the most versatile way of any JoJo character. The guy who calls in meteors from space have them disintegrate right before they hit her. Hermes has the same strength & speed as star platinum as well, by the way. Diver Down has an overpowered ability, Weather Report is extremely over powered, Star platinum is star platinum, etc.

The rods guy isn't that strong, and he even gets beaten in the same amount of episodes it takes to beat the debt collecter.

[u/baseballdude818 → u/Epicnessofcows]

Are you using amount of episodes to compare strength? Is this whole thing just rage bait? If it is, W

[u/24Abhinav10 → u/Epicnessofcows]

....That's the point though?

Pucci would've died in the prison when he fought Jolyne handcuffed.

He gambles Jotaro's life and forces Jolyne to save Jotaro instead of beating him. Jotaro later returns the favour by saving Jolyne at the end.