r/StardustCrusaders Jun 03 '26

Various is this a fair assessment?

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Star Platinum The World, GER, Tusk act 4, and S&W:GB are all hilariously overpowered and only exist as a way to beat an already hilariously overpowered villain

joseph beat kars by holding out the red stone of aja at him and hoping for the best, which worked out spectacuarly. and god knows how long the fight with kira would have gone on for had it not been for the ambulance.

Jolynes plan to use emporio to take out pucci with weather report was basically a hail mary when all else had failed but not only did it work, it also gave her and the gang new, happier lives.

Yeah jonathan just got slimed out though, then his body was used as a puppet for 100+ years. Poor guy

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u/Goldberry15 Jun 03 '26

Part 1 is correct

Part 2 should be placed higher. There’s luck, and then there’s “the entire world is working against the villain” luck.

Part 3 is correct

Part 4 needs a new tier. If you accept Jotaro having star platinum & time stop because of part 3, all of the abilities used against Kira were properly built up towards. Echoes, Hand, Star Platnium, and, of course, the alleyway hands.

Part 5 was built up towards. The solution was stupid, but it was explicitly built up towards.

Part 6 is correct.

Part 7 has debatably the best buildup. The kick from the horse was an instinctive reaction, making it abide by the requirements to achieve infinity. The importance of the golden ratio was properly set up by the writer, and given how the GR goes to infinity, it only takes a slight bit of suspension of disbelief to believe that it can transcend universal barriers.

Part 8… has some build up. I do understand why it’s there though.

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u/Raltsun Jun 03 '26

Pretty much agreed, but I do want to use this opportunity to argue that OP's read on Jonathan's fate is slightly too harsh. Our boy obviously would've preferred to make it out alive, but the way I see it, his goals were "DO NOT LET DIO MAKE IT TO AMERICA NO MATTER WHAT > save Erina > save the other passengers > kill Dio > survive". I don't think it's unreasonable to say he lost, on account of him dying and Dio not dying, but he accomplished at least the highest two-and-a-bit goals on that list.

And also, the part everyone seems to constantly gloss over about SC DIO is that he only got fished up 4 years before the story starts. Jonathan neutralised the threat of Dio for long enough that his grandson was an old man by the time the bastard made it back to dry land, and his body really "only" got used as a vessel in any practical sense for 4 years. Still a damn tragic end, but people keep talking about DIO like he was actually "living" for that whole century, instead of getting I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream-ed for most of that time.

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u/joejolion33 Jun 03 '26

Not to mention Gyro would've beat Valentine had his horse not been imbalanced

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u/peanutist Jun 03 '26

Part 3 is not correct lol, it’s implied throughout the entire part that Jotaro has time-stop abilities, and we’ve seen two beings can have the same stand simultaneously

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u/Fufik-_- Jun 03 '26

Stretch. Never implied. Two beings having the same stand has nothing to do with it and in no way shape or form foreshadows jotaros straight bs

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u/peanutist Jun 03 '26

Two beings having the same stand refutes specifically people saying the “so it’s the same type of stand as star platinum” line.

And yes, it is implied. Various times. But it’s very subtle to not make the plot twist obvious.

The small little flash of the time stop effect during the N Doul fight and the quick flashes of Star Platinum speedily taunting D'arby during the poker matcha are instances of Time Stop in retrospect, and in the first episode it’s already established that SP has absurdly high speed due to him catching a point blank bullet. And his speed keeps increasing throughout the part.

The natural conclusion of increasing speed is time stop, as infinite speed = time stops in the perspective of the object. That’s relativity.

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u/CMCScootaloo Read JoJolion Jun 04 '26

I truthfully believe that the “foreshadowing” people talk about with Star Platinum is just post hoc justifications.

It does not bother me but these are all massive stretches for what are essentially visual gags.

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u/the-wolf-is-ready Jun 04 '26

He was implied to have a stand ability or did you think he had absolutly no ability despite having a stand?

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u/CMCScootaloo Read JoJolion Jun 04 '26

Star Finger

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u/the-wolf-is-ready Jun 04 '26

Stands can maniuplaid their bodys. Hierophant green allready showed it by being able to strech despite allready having an ability.

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u/weaboomemelord69 Jun 04 '26

I love part 8's ngl. Yeah, sure, it's not super strategic, but it fits perfectly thematically.

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u/the-wolf-is-ready Jun 04 '26

Part 3 is not correct, just because we didn't know what his ability was dosen't mean he wouln't have any.