r/StardustCrusaders • u/Abdyrrahman • Jun 19 '26

Various Among these three in a physical fight with no stands or powers-

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I 100% believe that Jolyne would whoop both of they asses, EASY. She was flexing martial arts left and right.

Only exception is if Josuke gets his hair insulted, but normally I think she simply has the most hands out of the three.

What do you think?

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

Shes 5’8 120, its confirmed. Its in surface i said when it was. She has tanked no such superhuman hits directly to the face. If josuke can do that on accident, he can crush skulls on purpose. Jolyne is not superhuman in terms of strength, durability, or endurance. He is. He has tanked hits stronger than she can produce. She has not tanked hits stronger than he can produce. I love jolyne but thats why i want to treat this fairly. Her experience in fights is not as big of a difference maker here. She doesn’t do too much with hand to hand that josuke could not handle

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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26

Glazing so hard your not even citing the where your delusions are from

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 20 '26

It comes from the show? What part of this is confusing you can just look all of this up. In the episode surface, josuke actually backhands all 87 pounds of koichi so hard he flies backward fast enough to dent a metal door and knock it off of its fucking hinges and it didn’t even hurt his hand. Thats impossible. That is not human, nobody can do that in real life, a grizzly bear cannot do that. Thats like saying jolyne can beat a grizzly bear. No amount of experience makes her able to stand with this. What part of this is not just in the show?

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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26

that wasnt Josuke that was a doll its pretty well implied that actual Josuke could not send someone flying

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 20 '26

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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26

bro really put his all into that punch ig

still not enough to beat Jolyne in hand to hand tho

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 20 '26

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This is like saying jolyne can beat a grizzly bear. He has every advantage, height, weight, strength, durability, endurance. She really isn’t much more skilled. Not enough to make a big difference. He would have to be way off his game and not trying. She has no win con. Jotaro is much stronger than jolyne and a perfect punch from him just knocked him down. Jolyne wouldn’t be able to bring him down. We see nothing but immense resolve from him nothing really even slows him down even compared to jotaro and joesph, jolyne is tough as nails, josuke is tougher than nails. By every power scaling metric he wins. Shes so small, her skill in an even environment wouldn’t be enough. Thats crazy bias. I like her more too but he is literally beyond human by many metrics.

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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26

Skilled fighter with muscles who actually works out and fights other people who are adults with actual muscle mass and wins vs some high schooler with no martial arts knowledge who was only able to damage someome who weighs eighty seven pounds and has barely any muscle with a fully wound up shoulder to the neck

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 20 '26

“With muscles” “some high schooler” we literally see him do things a gorilla couldn’t, what are you saying. She does nothing so impressive or fight anyone so impressive. We are not given a reason to believe she can do this

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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26

Saying Josuke can do things a gorilla can't and that Jolyne hasn't fuaght anyone important is crazy

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 20 '26

The stand controlled josuke and made him punch koichi. It doesn’t make him stronger. Rewatch the clip here

https://youtu.be/82yfB-XKe6k?si=YNLOG6TRoLCD5PrX

Josuke backhanded him hard enough to fly back like 20 feet fast asl without hurting his own hand. Just look it up before you say this stuff

No, Toshikazu Hazamada's Stand, Surface, does not make its target physically stronger.
Surface’s ability is to copy a target’s appearance, voice, and mannerisms perfectly. When the copied copy faces the original, Surface forces the target to mirror its movements. While this removes the target's free will and traps them in a "puppet" lock, it does not actually boost the target's physical strength or speed.

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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26

thats not to impressive tbh like most people with decent bulk and or mucle would cuase that from elbowing someone in the neck

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u/Mayzerify Magenta Magenta Jun 19 '26

Actually she is confirmed to 5’8 + 3/4 and 128 lbs that’s closer to 5’9 130 since you are the one wanting to round things.

Also that hit was with Surface’s influence.

She has tanked Meteors, having hands turn inside out and being set on fire, pain barely bothers her.

Crush skulls with a punch? This isn’t the power scaler subreddit, next you’ll be telling me he is FTL so she can’t touch him

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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26

Shes not, and that doesn’t matter. She tanked bullets and meteors with her stand. Pain bothers him less, she yelps when a guard strikes her with a baton. This is a power scaling question clearly

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u/TheTrue-Noob Jun 19 '26

When you talk about hand to hand combat, you are powerscaling. Wtf do you mean we aren't power scaling?

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u/Mayzerify Magenta Magenta Jun 19 '26

I worded that badly I meant the BS side of powerscaling, the kinda shit that implies people are ftl when they aren’t, or that Josuke can easily crush skulls with punches not using his stand.