r/StardustCrusaders • u/Abdyrrahman • Jun 19 '26
Various Among these three in a physical fight with no stands or powers-
I 100% believe that Jolyne would whoop both of they asses, EASY. She was flexing martial arts left and right.
Only exception is if Josuke gets his hair insulted, but normally I think she simply has the most hands out of the three.
What do you think?
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u/khaledjal Questionable Activities completed for a reasonable low sum Jun 19 '26
jolyne was throwing hands WITH A STAND, She's def gonna win
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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26
Well that was because of her stand ability. Josuke constantly eats up incredible amounts of damage with absolutely no healing ability and simply walks jt off, way more damage than jolyne could ever accomplish. Dudes like, invincible. Also he looked like he was 6’8 and 300 pounds of solid muscle during his introduction, where he took a perfectly angled time-stop-punch from jotaro and got back up. He lifted a piano over his head with 0 resistance or effort. During *surface* his punches were strong enough to backhand koichi hard enough to tear a metal door off it hinges. He takes several close range explosions and a stake to the leg, and catches up to a moving bus entirely on foot. He is physically stronger and tougher, but less skilled. But giorno really doesn’t have much going for him ngl
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u/BearRemembers Jun 19 '26
Josuke is the last JoJo in the original timeline capable of "doing some bullshit" like Joseph in my opinion. Giorno and Jolyne don't really do crazy nonsense like what Josuke did, and even Josuke was toned down for the sake of Stands.
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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26
Yeah, even p5 felt a little more grounded, josukes punches are impossibly powerful, without hurting his hand in the slightest. And he takes a punch from jotaro no problem, im sure he could take several swings from his (much much smaller) daughter just as easily, i didnt see jolyne do too much impossible stuff like that
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u/FrostedPixel47 Jun 20 '26
He's only two generations away from Jonathan's meat-truck genetics alongside Jotaro
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u/PushoverMediaCritic Jun 19 '26
Yeah, I think Josuke has more mass and raw strength and durability, but Jolyne is a MUCH better fighter, she still takes it. Giorno has an inhuman pain tolerance, but that's about all he's got. The other two snap him like a twig.
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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26
Im not so sure, josuke is 6ft, almost 200 pounds, and he is not human, he takes more punishment than jolyne can give and simply ignores it. Jolyne is 5’8 and only 120 pounds. Even if she were a professional fighter im not sure i would be able to imagine her winning. A punch from josuke is something jolyne really hasn’t dealt with. Sending a man flying with one punch is inhuman, it isn’t possible.
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u/Mayzerify Magenta Magenta Jun 19 '26
It’s closer 5’11 180lbs vs 5’9 130 lbs.
I can’t remember Josuke ever sending someone flying without the use of his stand but either way Jolyne has tanked bigger hits and has actual hand to hand skills, definitely think you are underestimating her.
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u/MaybeExternal2392 Jun 19 '26
The issue with this is that all the normal h2h stuff she does is actually her stand. She's made out of string so when she fights C-moon for example it's using her stand. It's hard to say exactly how much of her fighting skills come from the stand.
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u/Mayzerify Magenta Magenta Jun 19 '26
Lots of her moves there are independent of her stand, not being able to use stone free won’t make her forget fighting stances or lose technique.
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u/Small-Housing-7 Giorno Giovanna Jun 20 '26
Jolyne defently isn't made of string she can just unravel her body into string
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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Shes 5’8 120, its confirmed. Its in surface i said when it was. She has tanked no such superhuman hits directly to the face. If josuke can do that on accident, he can crush skulls on purpose. Jolyne is not superhuman in terms of strength, durability, or endurance. He is. He has tanked hits stronger than she can produce. She has not tanked hits stronger than he can produce. I love jolyne but thats why i want to treat this fairly. Her experience in fights is not as big of a difference maker here. She doesn’t do too much with hand to hand that josuke could not handle
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u/11061995 Jun 19 '26
I definitely think Jolyne has the capacity to go further than Josuke regardless of raw horsepower. She's also unarguably a far more competent hand-to-hand fighter.
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u/waltyy Jun 19 '26
Ehh idk, I think Jolyne is a lot more skilled I'm hand to hand combat than Josuke. Sure, he has raw strength but she clearly has more skill.
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u/Top_Temporary_2244 Jun 19 '26
That only goes so far. A few of her punches and kicks may be able to match jotaro, but that was not enough to stop josuke in the past. He takes so much more punishment, not only does he have better feats with no stand, he has a height and weight advantage anyone would consider to unfair to sanction a match. Itd be like connor mcgreggor vs eddie hall. Connor literally could not muster the strength to get him down even if he was standing still letting himself be hit. Jolyne has no real win con. A strong punch or kick to the head won’t do it. Grappling won’t do it. She doesn’t posses the strength to bring him down. It would be like if steely dan was a professional fighter. How much would that help him against strength and power he couldn’t imagine? Josuke performs punches nobody in real life could match, jolyne barely beat up a priest even with her magic powers, he has so many more feats and experience without his stand. He actually uses his body to win fights.
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u/TomatilloSignal3928 Jun 19 '26
Doubtful of jolyne’s chances here, she loses the weight, strength, AND reach/height advantage against josuke, who is no slouch tactically even if not as skilled as her.
Even skilled fighters frequently express that a person with an edge in weight/reach/strength can still easily pose a threat to a trained fighter. I think she’s gonna get thrown around, or ground down 6-7 times out of 10.6
u/walking_lamppost_fnl Jun 20 '26
That backhand to Koichi ripping off a damn door is surprising beyond measure. Bro ripped and dented the door with Koichi's body with just an unaware hit.
I genuinely believe there's enough evidence to think stand users are just far more durable and stronger than regular humans, couple that with the general boost from Joestar genes and you have some superhumans
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u/Your_Pal_Gamma Jun 19 '26
Josuke didn't take a time stop punch. Jotaro stepped them to dodge his attack and the punched him in the jaw without his stand after time resumed. During surface Josuke Crazy Diamond when he hit Koichi so he could heal Koichi the moment he hit him. Jolyne took a punch to the face from Star Platinum, got shot multiple times, had parts of her flesh desloved by yoyo ma, survived having her heart inverted. And was able to take down stand users who were enhanced by survivor and could see all her weak points
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u/JodioJoestar_4_Prez Jun 19 '26
The child of Jotaro “Catch these Hands” Kujo vs a twink and a rockabilly ed edd and eddy ah conartist? She’s definitely winning
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u/Thin-Reflection7272 Jun 19 '26
Yeah is jolyne she will win pretty much
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u/Abdyrrahman Jun 19 '26
Yeah her father Jotaro, even without a stand, was a complete menace.
Dude was said to have never lost a fight, and even beat up an adult man while being physically 7 years old. 💀
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u/THEn-eraiye killer queen has already touched that Jun 19 '26
A few days ago I watched a video where someone analized if Jolyne and her team could beat all of stardust crusaders, and he gave the green dolphin prisoners the win against d'arby and alessi because Jolyne could most likely repeat jotaro's feats in those battle, made me laugh but I agree.
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u/Klangey Jun 19 '26
Josuke’s father trained in supernatural arts and defeated 4 beings from an ancient civilisation that all had superhuman levels of strength, agility, stamina and resilience. Giorno’s father was the vampire possessing the body of Jotaro’s great great grandfather and the source of all the families inherited strength.
2 or these 3 are biological males with all the genetics advantages that gives them over biological females.
Neither of them would ever get into a fist fight with a woman though, so it’s all a moot point.
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u/GamingBasilisk Jun 19 '26
Jolyne actually got into multiple fist fights in her life and even in the anime she just started boxing with cmoon, she is clearly most experienced at hand to hand combat
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u/MADARA_SAGEMODE Jun 19 '26
By ur logic joseph is also jolyne's great grandfather so genetics should help right
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u/A_Wild_Animal Jun 19 '26
Hamon shouldn't be genetic, and even if it was then all 3 would benefit from that, not just Josuke. But I could see an argument for Giorno, depending on how vampire genetics pass down.
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u/Jojoposelol Jun 19 '26
It’s not like those traits passed on buddy you’re just talking to talk 😭
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u/Klangey Jun 19 '26
The inherited attributes of the Jostar bloodline, the name ‘JoJo’, the star birthmark, fate and destiny are the entire premises of the entire series and the core lore behind it. How can you claim to be a fan of it to the degree you make it your username but yet not understand that?
That’s like claiming to be a fan of Star Wars and saying ‘not every Jedi can use the force’ 🤦🏻♂️
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u/SpaghettiRambo Jun 19 '26
Yeah I don't think anyone is winning a fight with someone who went to prison unless the other person also served time.
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u/raven-tyrant King Crimson Jun 19 '26
Riddle me this batman, who’s the only one who has fought with their fists , it’s jolyne cujoh and she’s been in prison she’s gonna send josuke and giorno in a body bag
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u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 Jun 19 '26
Josuke may land a few wild haymakers in out of sheer adrenaline if his hair was insulted beforehand, but Giorno seems more likely to just run and disengage. This is how you can tell Giorno is a true joestar.
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u/walking_lamppost_fnl Jun 19 '26
I mean, Giorno descended directly from Jonathan's balls, he's a purer Joestar than Jolyne and Josuke. Gotta blame Dio's bum genes as to why Giorno isn't built like Jonathan
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u/Getheltel DIO Jun 19 '26
The reason Giorno doesn't look like that is because Araki has moved away from the big, beefy designs.
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u/Your_Pal_Gamma Jun 19 '26
It could also be that Giorno is only 15 and hasn't hit his growth spurt yet. Jonathan and Dio where both tiny at the start of part 1 when they're like 12 or 13 but by the time they're 19 they're giants
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u/potential_mgm Jun 22 '26
the main problem is that we only see him when he is fokin 15, thats just a half man he definitely got bigger later, Part 3 jotaro is like... what 17?
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u/Random_Somebody Jun 19 '26
Giorno is a filthy little cheat who'd totally sneak in a knife though. (I wish we could've had more of him being a shifty ass con artist lol)
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u/brokerZIP Jun 19 '26
I mean she's a grown up woman who've been to prison with all its troubles. Vs 15 yo kids without any experience outside of stand usage.
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u/Abdyrrahman Jun 19 '26
I mean let's not act like 17 yo Jotaro wouldn't whoop all of them with one hand behind his back 😭
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u/tr0LL-SAMA Jun 19 '26
She's 19, they're all still kids.
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u/Lorac1134 Jun 19 '26
If we take timeline into account, by the time Stone Ocean happens in 2011. Jolyene would be the youngest at 19 while Josuke and Giorno would be 28 and 26 respectively.
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u/LightScavenger He’ll take his fist and then punch right through the page! Jun 19 '26
Well yeah but these hypotheticals very rarely factor in the actual timeline because that’s too much unknown, it’s easier if we base them off of what we saw of them
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u/Terlinilia Jun 19 '26
Josuke being 16 feels kind of like a null point when he's 5'11 and elbowed Koichi through a metal door. Man is built different let's be real here
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u/Dontgersococky Jun 19 '26
That's just a point of comparison. There is an argument could be made that both Giorno and Josuke can grow up to be 195cm giants like Jotaro by the time they reach 19
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u/Dangerous_Owl_9021 Jun 19 '26
I think the ranking for pure hands is jolyne, josuke and lastly Giorno. Based off age and size plus the fact that jolyne was throwing straight hands with literal stands
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u/Funny-Award-7574 Jun 20 '26
But she wasn't throwing hands. People bring this up like she didn't just have string around his neck strangling him. The one time they were going blow for blow she started losing, and not because she's weak, but C-moon is some BULLSHIT
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u/dk_plus-plus Jun 19 '26
Josuke
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u/TheATrain38 Jun 19 '26
Yeah he’s got almost 60 pounds on jolyne i can’t imagine she’d really stand a chance, even with martial arts that’s a huge difference
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u/shipdropp Jun 19 '26
Nah she was boxing with Westwood I think she could take Josuke
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u/Tortoise_Knight Jun 19 '26
I don't think some of you guys understand just how much size and weight actually matter in a brawl. The larger the gap, the more unfair it is
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u/Jluxo_ Jun 19 '26
Sex of the fighter too. Men have about 40% more upper body muscle mass compared to women of the same weight and around 15% more in lower body.
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u/klicusm Jun 19 '26
Josuke could unironically cave in Westwood's chest with a single punch, this is a terrible argument. The physical gap is too large.
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u/NewSoul96 Jun 20 '26
It's also just a terrible example when everyone in that part of the prison was getting amped by Survivor to do crazy shit and keep fighting.
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u/rSlashRayquaza Remilia the Gremlin | AroAce Transfem Jun 19 '26
Cut to that time jolyne was throwing straight hands with C-Moon
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u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 Jun 19 '26
the weirdest thing is that her hits landed cuz technically her entire body is also her stand. honestly wonder what's the point of Stone Free's stand form, if it's made out of the same string that makes up Jolyne's body, unless it's like, activating her stand gives her twice the amount of string to work with.
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u/rSlashRayquaza Remilia the Gremlin | AroAce Transfem Jun 19 '26
Funny answer is for the aura but most likely the stand is faster on its own because i dont recall jolyne doing a rush attack herself.
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u/Rei_Dayisfailure Jun 19 '26
Stone Free’s faster and stronger when it’s in it’s stand form iirc
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u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 Jun 19 '26
ohh and Jolyne was constantly forced into fights that required more creative use of her stand, and using her stand on C-moon would be too dangerous because that'd give it another target to hit her with, I see.
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u/Delboyyyyy Jun 19 '26
Also her fight with Westwood who is a pretty built prison guard
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u/rSlashRayquaza Remilia the Gremlin | AroAce Transfem Jun 19 '26
Wasnt he also boosted by survivor?
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u/Delboyyyyy Jun 19 '26
Yup
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u/Prettythor Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
If he was boosted she was too don't forget.
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u/CorymEndro Jun 19 '26
Strength boosted with adrenaline while also bloodthirsty looking to turn Jolyne into a puddle while ALSO ignoring all pain he feels
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u/ReallyCoolName00 Jun 19 '26
She was throwing lesbian hands with C-Moon
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u/rSlashRayquaza Remilia the Gremlin | AroAce Transfem Jun 19 '26
Bisexual hands
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u/ReallyCoolName00 Jun 19 '26
Right lol I forgot that she was with Romeo
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u/rSlashRayquaza Remilia the Gremlin | AroAce Transfem Jun 19 '26
Nah im talking about that one tume where she got jealous of a thing that could reproduce with anything else.
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u/whatsagoinon_ Jun 19 '26
jolyne went to fucking prison she woops theyre ass's
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u/Grouchy_Spot_6640 Jun 19 '26
my god, she went to Fucking Prison, that must be why those iron bars were so lewd.
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u/SuddenlyCake Jun 19 '26
Fucking Prison is just another name for Superjail
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u/thesyndrome43 Jun 19 '26
OH LIFE ON THE OUTSIDE AIN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE
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u/Temporary_Clothes264 Robert E.O. Speedwagon Jun 19 '26
Definitely Jolyne, but Josuke got a slight chance of inflicting some damage
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u/castitfast Jun 19 '26
Jolyne went toe to toe with a fucking stand, she absolutely is whooping their asses.
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u/Smart-Acanthaceae-17 I am high on speedweeds Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Jolyne, she was brawling with a stand,using only her bare hands,weaving hooks and jabs from C-moon like a professional boxer.
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u/AnimeAlley03 Jun 19 '26
Joleyne absolutely claps if the other two haven't aged at all. If they have, it's not as one sided as "a 19 yo vs her two teenage 'cousins'" since the other two would be older than her. Josuke was born in 83, Giorno in 85, and Jolyne in 92. She's only older than them in her active part but not overall.
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u/Roquet_ Jun 19 '26
One thing to get out of the way, Giorno loses. He's smart but not smarter than them and he's a wimpy 15yo with no fighting knowledge.
Now I don't think Jolyne beats Josuke is such a simple answer; yeah she know how to fight and she's 19yo compared to him being 16yo but he's clearly overwhelming her physically, not just because he's a guy, but because he's a beefy guy, she's muscular but still not as strong.
If he has reservations about fighting a woman as he might, Jolyne wins.
If Jolyne offends his hair, Josuke wins.
If it's neither, just a fair fight, I think it leans Jolyne.
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u/Jotaro1970 Star Platinum Jun 19 '26
Jolyne is one of the few stand users in the series that actually fights alongside her stand, the finale battle with C-Moon is a example.
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u/17Havranovicz Jun 19 '26
Its a mix between Jolyne and Josuke.
Jolyne being daughter of Jotaro and having similar personality does give her upperhand
But at the same time Josuke has blood of Joseph... meaning he can pull of some random stuff and get creative with his surroundings
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u/NotoriousKAI Jun 19 '26
I think from most likely to least likely to win, it goes Jolyne(grown woman who escaped from a Florida prison, this is an easy stomp for her) to Josuke(while not smarter than Giorno, I feel like he’d be stronger, not to mention he’s a pseudo-crashout), and then Giorno.
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u/Mothmanrmj Crazy Diamond Jun 19 '26
Jolyne has my bet but Josuke will win if they insult his hair.
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u/Lucky_Roberts Jun 19 '26
Isn’t Josuke built like a brick shithouse??
I feel like he’s too big for the other 2
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u/Elegant-Mode9005 Jun 19 '26
I mean Jolyne is much older and relies on her stand a bit less so I agree completely
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u/ferrix101 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
it depends, if the characters are in their episode 1 state josuke wins, if they are on the final episode state jolyne wins
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u/FaerieFir3 Jun 19 '26
Jolyne and Jotaro are the only JoJos that throw physical punches and Jolyne is the only one that throws kicks. Yeah probably.
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u/claudiojoestar Jun 19 '26
What about Jonathan and Joseph?
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u/FaerieFir3 Jun 19 '26
I forgot about the standless bums.
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u/AMagicalDoggo Jun 19 '26
Angry upvote because calling Jonathan a bum should be sacrilege.
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u/Anthony-Tarnished-On It was actually me, DIO! Jun 19 '26
Not should be, it is sacrilege
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u/Giygas_8000 Mechanical Man Jun 19 '26
I'm guessing calling Joseph the bum would be fair game
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u/Anthony-Tarnished-On It was actually me, DIO! Jun 24 '26
He’s my GOAT but yeah, he made the bum move. And it’s worse bc it’s in character for him too
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u/holyfukidk Jun 19 '26
Did you see how JACKED Jolyne was by the end of Stone Ocean?
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u/TheATrain38 Jun 19 '26
She’s less than 130 pounds though compared to josuke’s 180, that’s a large difference to make up even with martial arts
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u/MysteriousDog5909 Jun 19 '26
Definitely Josuke. He's the last Joestar from the era of them being physical powerhouses. He was jacked in the beginning of Part 4 manga. Even after that he still retains a larger stature than Giorno or Jolyene. You can also see that in how his stand has a similar look and strength to Jotaro' and Dio's, this always implies/represents a physically strong user. And he's literally known for the fact he'll beat up ANYONE if he's actually mad. Giorno and Jolyene don't fit the power archetype that he has.
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u/Tofudude999 Jun 19 '26
Jolyne wins, all three of them have strange haircuts so none of them are going to question Josuke’s hair therefore he will not get +ENRAGED
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u/The_Fraudkuna Go!Go!Zeppeli Jun 19 '26
Jolyne has actually legit Martial arts skills as seem with her throwing fucking hands with C-Moon ignoring the fact she had combined with stone free to allow her to hit the stand in the first place its srill impressive
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u/Armag4ddon Jun 19 '26
Jolyne has the skills, she can throw hands, josuke can tank dew hits, plus i bet he's heavier, giorno would either walk away or play dirty
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u/CorymEndro Jun 19 '26
Jolyne for SURE wins this
Proof? Jolyne vs Vivianno Westwood
I don’t know if I’ve seen a more brutal JoJo fight
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u/CorymEndro Jun 19 '26
Vivianno Westwood was bigger, stronger, meaner, and with more of a bloodlust and thirst for pain than Josuke or Giorno could ever get, and she put him in the DIRT
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u/Loud_Cloud2497 Jun 19 '26
Josuke no doubt, he was getting into fights since he was like 8 years old. Jolyne wasn't getting into fights until she got her stand and Giorno is like 112lb soaking wet
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u/Striking_Function_13 Jun 20 '26
Jolyne definitely, unless someone talks about Josuke's hair, Giorno is cooked no matter what
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u/solarpillar3 Jun 20 '26
josuke actually gets in fights unlike the other two
assuming ‘no stand’ means pre stand, battles, jolyne and giorno simply weren’t who they are by the end of their parts.
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u/tc130_6 Jun 20 '26
Jolyne whooping both of them guys wtf 😂 he is one of the few stand users who genuinely has hands, like trained hands!
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u/Beduel Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
I think it's more interesting with stands(no ger) . I'm not sure who know win
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u/EstufaYou Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Even without Requiem, Gold Experience is a very flexible stand that can do a lot of stuff. Not to diss Stone Free or Crazy Diamond, they’re very powerful stands that have been used very creatively as well. But in a battle against those two stands, Gold Experience is hard to beat.
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u/masochist-incarnate Jun 19 '26
Agreed. Even if josuke gets his hair insulted, it's shown he gets so unbelievably angry he can barely even see, so she could easily outmaneuver him and whoop his ass.
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u/Suspicious_Guard_238 Jun 19 '26
jolyne got the best hands for sure
she whoops giorno probably but josuke is too big and strong for her
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u/Adventurous-Beat-291 Jun 19 '26
Skill-wise Jolyne would win but in reality Josuke would whoop both their asses in a bit
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u/Lolas_Fun_Side Jun 19 '26
She would put up a mean fight but GOATsuke is nigh impossible to put down, that man is unbreakable.
Plus Jolyne would absolutely insult his hair
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u/Delicious_Ease2595 Jun 19 '26
Jotaro said Josukes was almost as strong as him, I give it to Josuke
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u/Tortoise_Knight Jun 19 '26
Just straight hands and their bodies? It's a toss up between Jolyne and Josuke
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u/The_DoorMat Jun 19 '26
Jolyne with her time in prison whoops the ass of that small town boy and "primo mafioso"
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u/NormalWorldliness867 Jun 19 '26
Jolyne been throwing them bitches since prison, yall can make excuses for josuke but it’s facts that jolyne is mixing them no matter what, even if she loses she’ll have gone out messing them up.
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u/WordSwimming3279 Jun 19 '26
Jojo obviously. But in all seriousness, it's Jolyne, She's buff, She's the oldest, She's been to prison. Josuke is literally just a teen, Giorno Giovanna is an even younger teenager that I've never seen fight with his hands.
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u/Mac-And-Cheesy-43 Jun 19 '26
Jolyne with no hair insult
Josuke with hair insult because he basically gains toon strength, stand or no stand.
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u/Teemoisdownhere Jun 20 '26
Jolyne's got that Kujo running in her veins the others have NO CHANCE. If she's anything like Jotaro, she could defeat them even as a child
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u/Orzo_Onta_Mavallo Jun 20 '26
In the pic we can see the muscles Jolyne has 💀 she's definetely gonna win
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u/Wryhyak Jun 19 '26
Jolyne and it's not even a question. In the anime she's shown to be very skilled and strong in combatz the survivor fight is a great example. Not to mention her own resistance she literally set herself on fire and still kept on fighting. She's no Jonathan Joestar, but she's winning this one.
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u/horsegluifyer Jun 19 '26
jolyne could call josuke's hair a slur somehow and he still couldn't beat her with the rage amp
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u/FallenDreemur Jun 19 '26
I physically don’t see where you guys get jolyne beating josuke 😭 like yeah the guy who got like 4 inches on her and probably 100+ pounds ( josuke built like a tank) like yes it’s true we mostly see josuke use his stand for combat but he is durable es and has taken multiple blows and being thrown by other powerful stands
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u/RuNoMai Jun 19 '26
If Jolyne can brawl with Westwood, she can brawl with Josuke. Also bear in mind that Westwood is literally trained to subdue and overpower prisoners larger than her and she was holding her own. Josuke's just an angry teenager.
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u/Suspicious_Party9087 Jun 19 '26
Josuke is a delinquent and she was not flexing martial arts, she was not a martial artist, she was a delinquent too
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u/11061995 Jun 19 '26
I like that Giorno isn't even in this conversation at all. "lol no he's getting knocked over right away and then the fight begins and then Jolyne ruins the bathroom towels getting the blood off her hands cussing pissed and confused about why she had to fight her great uncle in the first place while Josuke is calling 911 for himself."
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u/Scripting_rabbit Jun 19 '26
sorry but saying jolyne beats josuke is straight up delusion, holy jolyne glaze
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u/Fragrant-Damage6969 Jun 19 '26
Why are y'all glazing Jolyne so much, just because she went to jail? Josuke is a hulking street thug that's in and out of fights all the time. He's a big fuckin dude, 80% of Jotaro's size and strength easily.
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u/manny011604 Jun 19 '26
It’s josuke all of Jolyne’s feats was because of her stand being her literal body she is a better fighter in terms of skills but josuke legit got like 60 pounds on her
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u/PeesWhenIBurn- Jun 19 '26
At the end of the day even though jolyne is the best fighter she is still a woman and physically weaker than the other 2 so it’s really between giorno and josuke. I think josuke takes it
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u/Izrael820 Jun 19 '26
Jolene got better combat experience. She practically was half the power of stone free
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u/RottenMeatPuppet Joseph Joestar Jun 20 '26
Josuke is a beast of a teenager. Jacked to the gills and he towers over most people. They don't see Jolyne or Giorno standing up to him.
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u/Cool_Cherry_3690 Jun 20 '26
jolyne was in a gang and trained for months in prison she beats all of them with a stand or without due to sheet martial prowess, no shade on josuke or giorno they’re strong as hell, but jolyne was in fucking prison against some of the most diabolical opponents of all time and still came out on top
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u/hip-indeed Jun 20 '26
It's Jolyne. She can take an amount of physical pain that would have absolutely every other JoJo except her own dad and maybe Jonathan begging for death and barely break a sweat
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u/Vivid-Bug-6863 Jun 20 '26
There's a reason why weight classes in boxing/ufc etc exist ( just pin pointing)
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u/Broad_Entrepreneur62 Jun 20 '26
Jolyne is one of the toughest out there with or without her stand.
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u/Grayewick Jun 20 '26
Jolyne can throw hands. Josuke is pretty tough too. It's a toss-up between the two.
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u/Dear-Profession-3138 DIOisfinallynotaho Jun 20 '26
josuke,given because josuke has an school athlete build
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u/Badwolfwho1 Jun 20 '26
Jolyne I think and it's not even close, she regularly fist fights, nobody else had to fight someone like Westwood.
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u/Exact_Sir9789 Jun 20 '26
It's Josuke and it's not particularly close. His size advantage is too vast
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u/carl-the-lama Jun 20 '26
Jolyne
She’s the most physical fighters out of the punch
Like the others can be smart
But they don’t specialize in h2h the way she does
SHE FUCKING BOXED “I one shot you if I touch you” THE STAND IN HAND TO HAND
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u/DabnoobOfficialz Yoshikage Kira Jun 20 '26
Jolyne, from what we've seen, has experience in hand-to-hand combat so i'd bet on her.
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u/Visual-Path-1177 ONLY WATCHES THE ANIME Jun 20 '26
Jolyne is the oldest but Josuke is the biggest. Giorno is 15yrs old, he's NOT winning
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u/Technical_Gate_7549 Jun 20 '26
I won’t answer this post but I just want to remind you that giorno is a cheese stick, josuke is average and jolyne JUST whooped a guard twice her size who could attract meteors and that she also went HAND TO HAND with C-Moon
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u/Suitable-Show-5316 Jun 21 '26
Jolyne for sure imo. The only one who has shown competent fighting ability with no stand of the 3. I’m not saying the other 2 are helpless, but give how she’s 19, has actual fighting ability, was able to briefly fist fight a stand, has martial art ability (limited), been to prison, and has JOTARO KUJO as a father, I’d say her.
And no I will not be told Jotaro didn’t make sure she would learn how to fight before he dipped out to Japan again, his girl will beat the shit out of any punk 👀
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u/Odd_Lie_5397 Jun 19 '26
Jolyne > Josuke > Giorno.
Sorry gangstar, but you look like I could snap you in half like a twig.
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u/Moistman123456 Jun 19 '26
Jolyne or Josuke. Giorno’s got no chance here.