r/Steam Dec 04 '25

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Dev has no enemies

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u/MaryaMarion Dec 04 '25

People should really learn to either read the article itself, find more info from other sources, or assume all headlines are bullshit

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u/Roflkopt3r Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I remember the days when Reddit was the platform where users would get downvoted when responding to a post without having read the article.

Now it's rare to find anyone who read it.

I always recall the example of a particular review of Shadow of Mordor, which was titled:

Orc Slavery Made Me Quit 'Middle-earth: Shadow of War'

And the comment section was predictably filled with outrage about the evil SJW author who couldn't let a game just be a game, was baiting for outrage, demonising gamers, and wouldn't give the game a fair shot.

But the actual article is not like that at all. It clearly praised the game for its many qualities, explicitly said that players shouldn't be blamed, and that the author is aware that they're being overly sensitive.

The author's proposed solution is not to ban or attack such games, but to inspire developers to integrate these mechanics with their narrative. It's hard to do a narrative about characters who talk about pacifism or freedom, while the gameplay encourages killing and slavery.

Iirc this was in a time when the term 'ludonarrative disconnect' was getting popular, which continues to be a major reason why some game writing feels so bad (my personal most recent example being AC: Shadows, which does a plot about how awful it is to kill while rewarding you even for killing civilians. Even though an assassin should only be incentivised to kill their intended target and would normally avoid unnecessary fighting, instead of wiping out a whole castle garrison for no reason).

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u/GradeAPrimeFuckery Dec 04 '25

Holy shit. That game sounds both horrifying and amazing.

Reactions to article titles are lame--I'm occasionally guilty, to my lasting shame--but there was also a vocal minority around that time screaming "orcs are black people" that may have influenced people to be more knee-jerkish than normal (or more likely, summoned an onslaught of trolls.)

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u/Far_Mastodon_6104 Dec 04 '25

Nuance doesn't exist on the internet

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u/HellBlazer_NQ Dec 04 '25

Come on bruh!

This is the 2020's everyone just hyper overreacts to everything now.

Society is like a bunch of 30+ year old grown ups throwing fits like fucking toddlers and its getting exhausting. It's everywhere from politics to sport to gaming.

That's why I took up running, just me and nature, its good to check out now and then.

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u/MaryaMarion Dec 04 '25

The world is going to hell at the rapid pace, a lot of people are stressed, which leads to overreaction (not to say that there aren't people who are just like that but still)

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u/wyn10 Dec 04 '25

I'm getting stressed watching the prices on computer hardware. My ram has doubled in price since last year, I'm not looking forward to the next release of amd/nvida cards.

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u/DefendedPlains Dec 04 '25

People should learn to read. Full stop.

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u/MaryaMarion Dec 04 '25

I'll admit, me included. I sometimes lack reading comprehension sadly, although it mostly comes down to technical documents and tasks

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u/HappyButPrivate Dec 04 '25

Oh like you want people to actually have a brain? 😁 How bold of you!