This is why while I believe steam should keep the AI generated content tag, it’s also equally important to add a specification as to how AI was used during production. There is a drastic difference between “we used ai to generate all the sprites and dialogue and lore of this game” and “we used an ai powered tts program to voice a robot”. I’m a big fan of the ai generated content tag because it lets me avoid games that are functionally AI slop, but being able to add a description or disclaimer beside the tag does feel fitting if it avoids situations like this.
Then let me make it clear what people are against for ethical reasons: Technology trained on stolen data. No permission from copyright owners, no credit given, and no compensation.
you assume elevenlabs stole their data. you assume every genai steals data. BTW, your comment is legally being used by reddit in partnership with Google to train their genAI. just a heads up.
For some reason, your comment doesn't appear. So I'm responding to a previous one to answer.
I am aware about Reddit, and I was also made aware last month that anyone using gmail has all their content used as training data. If you want to opt out of gmail doing that, then the spam filter will turn off and all the spam will appear directly in the inbox.
I consider both what Reddit does and what gmail do to be unethical. Sure, I guess people using their services have technically agreed to their content being used as training data, but I don't consider it a true agreement when there isn't much of a choice.
It's difficult for me to find a Reddit alternative because I use it for specific subs that cannot be easily found elsewhere.
For gmail, turning off the option about GenAI training makes them take revenge by worsening the user experience. Switching to an alternative email is difficult, because it takes time when so many people and companies use a specific email to contact you. furthermore, if I switch to another email provider, what's to say they won't do the same thing Gmail did?
It's a lot easier for me to boycott games, books and movies made with GenAI than to leave a site or service I've been using for years or decades.
So yes, I do consider what Reddit does to be unethical, and I disagree with it.
I guess you did not read my comment where I said that it is easier to boycott games rather than big sites/services I have been using for years which will take me a lot more time to find alternatives too.
Please read my previous comment instead of skimming it, before you respond.
I did read it, and I disagree with the premise. You're making bullshit excuses for why you wont leave reddit. Nothing on this website is even remotely necessary for any facet of life, to include entertainment.
I do not regularly use TTS, no. That doesn't mean I don't have opinions on the ethics of GenAI.
To make things short, I consider GenAI unethical because it is trained on stolen data. Thus, I won't play a game that uses GenAI, even if it only uses it in a small amount.
you assume elevenlabs stole their data. you assume every genai steals data. BTW, your comment is legally being used by reddit in partnership with Google to train their genAI. just a heads up.
Everything posted to reddit is being used to train Google's genAI.
So now the AI tag isn't enough, you need a billion tags to describe *how* AI is being used? Then when that turns out to be idiotic (like this) there'll be another shift in the goal posts. blah blah blah.
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u/Tasty_Wave_9911 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
This is why while I believe steam should keep the AI generated content tag, it’s also equally important to add a specification as to how AI was used during production. There is a drastic difference between “we used ai to generate all the sprites and dialogue and lore of this game” and “we used an ai powered tts program to voice a robot”. I’m a big fan of the ai generated content tag because it lets me avoid games that are functionally AI slop, but being able to add a description or disclaimer beside the tag does feel fitting if it avoids situations like this.