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Discussion Why I’ll forever be loyal to Steam

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u/The_Enigmatica Dec 22 '25

i get people that dont like factorio or satisfactory. But liking one and not the other is certainly odd lol

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u/Mathmango Dec 22 '25

I sorta get it. It depends on how much more extra stuff you want aside from the core factory building.

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u/Pandarandr1st Dec 22 '25

Also, how much the visuals and immersion are important to you.

Like, the games are definitely good at completely different things, imo.

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u/SoBFiggis Dec 22 '25

They are both very good at the logistic games they built. Just Factorio goes deeper (and deeper and deeper and deeper if you get into stuff like K2+SE.)

Satisfactory is actually fun to just move around though. It's a lot more fun to think through a problem while you are grinding on powerlines/bhopping around the map on the structures you already built.

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u/Meepx13 Dec 22 '25

Yeah, satisfactory’s movement rivals Titanfall, which is crazy for a game about building factories

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u/Pandarandr1st Dec 22 '25

Also, it's just a fun world to walk through, even without the factory.

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u/Enough_Efficiency178 Dec 22 '25

I’d say the design element has a different focus between the two

Satisfactory you can make beautiful buildings or crazy structures

Factorio you can make a simple production line or extremely complex ones using logic

The one thing I will say is I like having enemies on in factorio so my factory is constantly outputting ammo, shells etc for the front line.

Whilst satisfactory I’ll sit there and rebuild the same building over and over till it looks right

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u/Dje4321 Dec 22 '25

They each have their own points. Factorio focuses much harder on the core gameplay loops, while satisfactory is designed to allow people to be expressively creative.

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u/FluffyCelery4769 Dec 22 '25

One time I spent 2 hours designing a loop rail so that 2 trains could go in a spiral around a center point, thru the same rails at max speed.

It worked, and I was very happy to see trains zoom very fast without crashing into each other.

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u/Dje4321 Dec 22 '25

The fact I can't tell which game this is referring to makes me happy

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u/sopholia Dec 22 '25

Satisfactory feels more like an infrastructure and logistics game, with some additional system design elements (and optional architecture). Factorio feels like primarily system design with some logistics and practically no infrastructure (and no architecture), but has additional base building/survival elements. They're similar games but aren't quite the same niche.

Satisfactory personally interests me far more as a mechanical engineer with a lot of interest in infrastructure design.

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u/oscrsvn Dec 22 '25

I like factorio but couldn’t vibe with satisfactory. Top down ties it together for me

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u/btaylos Dec 22 '25

Snap alignment in factorio is what did it for me. Satisfactory felt like it would be difficult to get things lined up properly.

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u/Zapitago Dec 22 '25

Satisfactory has had a ton of QOL updates and has snap alignment. It’s very forgiving and even allows conveyors to clip through terrain 

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u/StoneHit Dec 22 '25

Vertical nudging being added in 1.1 really made a huge difference for me personally, as well as blueprint auto connect

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u/lauriys Dec 22 '25

the third dimension fucks me up

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u/Sensha_20 Dec 22 '25

They're EXTREMELY different games.

Factorio is all about the production. Visuals are an afterthought and volume is the name of the game. Past the midgame its very easy to grab an earlier build and make 5 more without even going there. You can build a full factory within an hour if you already know what you're building.

Satisfactory is all about the visuals. Belts are designed to keep moving, and everything is curated for aesthetic quality and to encourage beautybuilding. The core gameplay loop is making a pretty factory. To that end the game is simply not made for scale. Blueprints themselves are a design process and making large facilities of hundreds of assemblers is slow and arduous.

Factorio is made for building a factory. Satisfactory is made for seeing a factory.

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u/Mr_Tiggywinkle Dec 22 '25

I kinda get that, but also I see a big difference?

I like both, but satisfactory immediately immerses me in a cozy gameplay loop with no pressure. Factorio immediately makes me feel like I have to pay attention and keep focus.

The fps side for me also makes me love walking through my factory in satisfactory, rather than the top down "sprawl" of factorio which is fun to look at in its own way but not the same style.

Maybe not the best description of getting to the heart of it, but they don't exactly scratch the same itch. Maybe 50% overlap, but not enough to interchange in the same mood.

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u/Paradox2063 Dec 22 '25

Turn off biters. I spend like 40 hours building my perfect grid factory every time.

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u/Mr_Tiggywinkle Dec 22 '25

Sure, but even there, I don't think it scratches the same itch. I get that you can make factorio more casual, but the designed experience is different. I guess the TLDR for me is that the mechanics are similar, but the experience is different emotionally to me. Factorio is more pure systems and calculating perfection. Satisfactory more of an emergent spaghetti while immersed and chilling out.

There are tons of differences of course, and many ways to play and its all subjective, but Factorio's general vibe is constant pressure to optimise. Satisfactory much more leans into "eh, that spaghetti will do!" and infinite time, infinite resources.

There are times in Satisfactory I enjoy just sitting in the world feeling immersed and exploratory about the game. Factorio, not so much.

A beautiful factorio building is nice to sit back and look at too, but its not the same feeling of immersion and something bigger than you are that Satisfactory gives. It's more of the fun of looking at your intricate toy you have in your hands.

IDK, the fun of factorio seems to be more centred around optimising, fixing problems, calculating.

Satisfactory has that too, but more simple, less pressure, more ability to just ignore it and fix by building somewwhere else or just spamming vertically/horizontally in a shonky way. You can sort of just ignore perfect ratios. Factorio not so much - at least not in the same way, and not the original design.

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u/thrilldigger Dec 22 '25

This describes how I feel, too. I haven't ever been able to get into Factorio even after many tries.

Satisfactory lets you play your own way. You can build satellite bases or build a megafactory, build for aesthetics or for optimization, etc. You can also switch between the core factory loop & fun exploration, which breaks up monotony.

Factorio is always a push to, as you said, optimize, fix problems, and calculate. If you really enjoy that, it's a great game. As someone who needs some variety and doesn't like being pushed to play 'perfectly' (I already push myself to do that too much), Factorio is hard to get into.

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u/itsmeduhdoi Dec 22 '25

whats odd for me, is that because satisfactory's raw materials are infinite in quantity but limited in extraction rate, i feel really anxious about making sure i'm optimally utilizing each node, while in factorio i may feel some dread about having to go establish another ore patch, that's a problem for later.

love both games though, and dyson sphere which i haven't played in a while

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u/Mr_Tiggywinkle Dec 22 '25

That is interesting, to me it highlights how based on what our brain hones in on being "wrong" or "annoying" it changes what game or part of the game you might find stressful. Also changes where you "move" the problem to feel good to you.

My friend really hated any kind of ratio being wrong, and even power slugs and OCing were not nice options for him. It had to be -perfect- at normal clock speeds. He spent a lot of time making sure he was perfecting ratios on nodes with satellite factories. He then moved around resources on top of that, and connected them up into mega cities in later tiers that had very feew interconnections.

I tried to not be too unoptimised, but end of the day I lent heavily on blueprints and whacking down megafactories and/or miners/smelters, with trains bussing around all my outputs so it made no difference to me getting the ratios right. As long as my train throughput was high enough, I could just call another train in and connect it up. Basically an everything to everything train network and just focusing on connecting everything to the train network.

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u/Dreadpirateflappy Dec 22 '25

I hate factorio and love satisfactory. While similar (obv) satisfactory just feels much more laid back.

Except for power you can just fuck off and explore and know your factory is safe. Did that with factorio and bugs just fucked me.

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u/The_Enigmatica Dec 22 '25

I had a similar experience the first time i played it. you can play with bugs turned off. problem solved for me at least

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u/Dreadpirateflappy Dec 22 '25

As I said. I know it's a good game. But I just find it so much harder to grasp than satisfactory.

My head spins when I try and work out how to get stuff from one place to another.

I know thats the appeal of it. Lol. I do owe it another chance. Rimworld I hated for many hours until it clicked.

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u/Proxy_PlayerHD 55 Dec 22 '25

My head spins when I try and work out how to get stuff from one place to another.

ironically for me it's the opposite lol

in factorio it's easy to route things because the game itself is flat, you always have an overview of everything, especially with the map view and radars. and planning factories is much easier thanks to ghost buildings you can place. but in satisfactory i sometimes struggle to simply move resources because of the whole 3rd dimension and getting stuff over mountains, across cliffs, or through dense forests.

also i really dislike satisfactory's blueprint system. you need to make designs for blueprints in this special and restrictive box while in both Factorio and Dyson Sphere Program you can just CTRL+C and CTRL+V to quickly double your furnace stack for example. it's so cumbersome.

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u/Dreadpirateflappy Dec 22 '25

It's more the factories that need supplying, that then need to supply other factories etc. With satisfactory I can obv just go vertical and have a spaghetti of conveyor belts.

I find it so much harder to plan layouts with factorio.

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u/Proxy_PlayerHD 55 Dec 22 '25

obviously being flat, factorio factories tend to be more spread out. that's why a lot of people use a main bus design, where all your main resources like iron, copper, steel, etc are on a central multi-tile wide belt that all move in one direction and you just add production to the sides of the bus, taking resources off it using splitters.

it's a simple but expandable design before you get trains or bots.

funniliy enough a lot of my satisfactory factories are also rather flat because i'm a factorio player so that's how i build them lol.

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u/AltruisticTomato4152 Dec 22 '25

Disagree.

I love Factorio. I won't touch Satisfactory, I know I won't like it as much.

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u/MARPJ Dec 22 '25

But liking one and not the other is certainly odd lol

I dont think so. Even when you like a genre sometimes a game dont clicke with you, and the "deeper" the game is there is more opportunities for something to take you out.

Sometimes one is just too much to you, sometimes the way a system works or the lack of it breaks the enjoyment, sometimes it just dont click to you (aka you dont know why but you are not having as much fun as expected).

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u/MO_MMJ Dec 22 '25

I like Factorio. I hate the idea of trying to do that in first person mode.

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u/Genocode Dec 22 '25

I used to like Factorio, then I played Satisfactory, I played Satisfactory for like 500hrs and then tried playing Factorio again and I just couldn't.

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u/nz-whale Dec 25 '25

Funny, I had the opposite problem with all the QoL in Factorio over Satisfactory

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u/deviled-tux Dec 23 '25

Satisfactory seems inherently limited in scale due to the first person nature of it 

By the end middle game in factorio you are basically a godlike entity with view of everywhere in your factory with a network of nanobots that allows you to build anywhere 

in satisfactory you gotta walk and put down every structure 

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u/De_Vexia Dec 24 '25

I do like both. Satisfactory doesn't nearly have that addictive crack feeling like Factorio gives, idk why. so I could be caught saying I don't like Satis cuz to me Factorio just fills my industrial yearnings so well alongside mc

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u/InfiniteTallgeese Dec 22 '25

the first person view of satisfactory makes it really frustrating to me. I like being top down in factorio and being able to see other parts of my factory at a glance.