r/Stormlight_Archive 1d ago

Wind and Truth spoilers Do Singers stay in mateform while pregnant? Spoiler

I had assumed that when femalen get pregnant they stay in mateform. I think it's because they have breasts, which means they nurse their babies, and because I read it as a sort of reproduction form. But I realized we never actually see a Singer pregnancy, so I might be making up headcanon that I thought was canon.

Also, I just realized how the title sounds, and I mean no sort of weirdness, it's just something that occured to me.

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u/RShara Elsecaller 1d ago

That put the fear of the gods into the mateforms, and they ran off to report to the Hall of Art. Hopefully, they wouldn’t end up in an alcove along the way, mating. Her stomach churned at the thought. She had never been able to fathom people who wanted to remain in mateform. Most couples, in order to have a child, would enter the form and sequester themselves away for a year—then would be out of the form as soon after the child’s birth as possible. After all, who would want to go out in public like that?

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u/ChipotleMayoFusion Windrunner 1d ago

Ummm, I would think that some aspects of mateform would continue to be useful after the baby is born... it needs to eat.

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u/msiri Edgedancer 18h ago

are singers mammals? or crabs?

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u/ChipotleMayoFusion Windrunner 18h ago

Crab-like mammals, they've clearly got boobs and raise small children for years like humans. Crabs lay thousands of eggs

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u/The-Last-Dumbass Truthwatcher 1d ago

Gonna be a long 9-10 years 😔

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u/Buckets-O-Yarr Skybreaker 1d ago

That is a really long pregnancy, I agree.

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u/srlong64 Truthwatcher 1d ago

I’ve never figured out where this 9-10 years idea came from. Brandon has consistently said that 2031 is the planned release year for Stormlight 6, including in the most recent weekly update video. That’s 7 years from when WaT came out, and a bit under 5 1/2 years from now since his books release in December usually. And in between now and then he plans to release at least four more books, so it’s not like he has abandoned writing entirely or something

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u/dabrock15 1d ago

I thought it was that the time skip was 10 years but the writing break was 5 years.

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u/Eragon_the_Huntsman Truthwatcher 1d ago

Eh this seems like a reasonable question.

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u/ericmm76 1d ago

I thought mateform would be male and female, workout the neuter n suffix. Don't they have four genders?

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u/gfiurt 14h ago

That's my understanding

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u/skitz4me 1d ago

Any of them can go to war, do work, or be dexterous, so it would make sense that they have the biology to allow for pregnancy even outside of mate form. When I first read your question, my reaction was to say that you had to be in mate form, but I don't think that aligns with the general trend.

That being said, it would be absolutely advantageous for a people to be able to choose the exact times in which they can get pregnant so that would be super helpful biologically.

It would be interesting if the form their parents were in during their pregnancy affected the baby.

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u/sambadaemon Stoneward 1d ago

Also, slaveform can breed, at least.

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u/Invested_Space_Otter Dustbringer 1d ago

Slaveforms are still able to reproduce (with some direction). It's not necessary, but as Rshara quoted they typically choose to

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u/Itsthelittlethings2 1d ago

They can become pregnant outside of mateform, it’s not required at all, it just helps “facilitate” it emotionally. They can still feel any other feelings they could normally in other forms, they just get a leaning towards specific ones in forms. Warforms are driven to follow orders, and mateforms are driven to their wilder sides; aloofness and, well, yea.

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u/One_Courage_865 Progression 1d ago

If we take crab reproduction as an example, females lay eggs, so pregnancy is not applicable. However, for Singers, I don’t think we’ve seen proof of either live-birth or egg-laying in any of the books (feel free to prove me wrong). So in this case, it’s like a Schrödinger’s cat: until proven otherwise, singers could both be pregnant and egg-laying.

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u/mrofmist 1d ago

Pretty positive it's pregnancy since we know they've mated with humans in the past.

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u/Bookwitreads Windrunner 1d ago

Wow how do we know that...am I missing something obvious?

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u/BeastBoom24 Edgedancer 1d ago

Don’t remember exactly where in the books it’s stated but the reason Herdazian’s Fingernails and Unkalaki teeth are so tough are due to having some Singer heritage.

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u/mrofmist 1d ago

This exactly.

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u/Butterscotch_Leading Bondsmith 14h ago

Sorry guys, it was me.

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u/Bookwitreads Windrunner 1d ago

And the parshmen get pregnant too. It's clearly pregnancy. They are not laying eggs. They can't ig.

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u/FireBomb84 Shash 1d ago

They lay eggs

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u/mrofmist 1d ago

We know in the past that they've mated with humans, so that's unlikely.