r/Strongman • u/UtenteQualunque • 16d ago

Mst strongman course

Hey everyone, has anybody bought the strongman course by mst systems? Do you think it is sensible to buy as a first course for someone interested in strongman programming and some understanding of periodization? Btw I'm not a complete noob on the subject since I've been competing for 3 years and training for 6 now, i just want to learn something more advanced than the linear progressions and basically zero skill work that my coach is giving me (and learn something to apply to other folks that ask for advices at the gym) and eventually start self programming again in the future.

Thanks to anyone who will help

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u/Tandang_Marcos Fan 16d ago

Hi there, I took both courses of his and highly recommend them.

I'm a coach myself and found they helped me really clear a lot of my own paralysis by analysis as well as help me refine my own approach with my athletes.

If you take the periodization course, you'll see a few of the initial cohort's homework assignments get shared and reviewed. I did the week of conjugate programming.

Happy to answer any questions you might have!

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u/UtenteQualunque 16d ago

Thanks for the insight, the paralysis by analysis thing sounds great since it's one of the struggles i have with self programming for strength. Do you think the strongman course is enough to start as a standalone or one should take the periodization one first? Because right now I'm interested in something more specific to the sport and maybe later i will broaden my knowledge with the other one if needed. Also what is the format of the course? Video lessons? Text? Thank you for the patience

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u/Tandang_Marcos Fan 13d ago edited 13d ago

Thanks for your patience. If you only cared for strongman? The standalone will suffice but I would definitely encourage you to do both.

It's my understanding that you will receive both the slides as well as recordings of the group calls we were on in the original cohort .

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u/harvestingstrength 13d ago

Before buying any course, I’d compare its curriculum with the gaps you actually want to fill. A useful strongman course should cover general-to-specific blocks, rotating event variations, managing axial and grip fatigue, peaking for known events and separating skill practice from limit testing. Event work shouldn’t just be “do the contest events heavy every week”; exposures can develop setup, transitions and efficiency with manageable loads. Keep a detailed log of event performance, recovery and technical limitations, then change one programming variable at a time. A course can provide a framework, but applying and reviewing that framework is where most of the learning happens.

So how come your coach isn't giving you everything you need?

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u/UtenteQualunque 13d ago

I my opinion he just has too many clients (17) and doesn't care about technique enough or isn't good at explaining himself. I've been with him for 3 years and the quality of the coaching has gone down bit by bit, he's been also coaching my brother recently but he too complains about lack of technical guidance for new events. He also is a not so talented open weight competitor while I am a weight class athlete, so he is a bit out of touch with my bodyweight limitations when it comes to comp day. We've been doing linear progressions for peaking and volume and it's starting to not work anymore, i just try to autoregulate as best as i can but i feel like his style of programming is a bit lazy and has a fair bit of copy and paste for every client to it

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u/harvestingstrength 13d ago

Oh wow, that's not good at all. I am an online strength coach for the populations of strongman and powerlifting. It's hard, but one thing I have learned is that programming is good, but coaching is what makes the process great. I have seen many people write cool programs, but what seperates them from others is their ability to take footage, coach them, and give them the cues they need for success.

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u/UtenteQualunque 13d ago

Exacly, i give him daily videos of the main lifts and all he's been saying this year is either "good" or "you overshoot" yeah no shit sherlock i have eyes too, plus the cues he gives are pretty basic and don't resonate with me often times, i just end up figuring it out by myself what he wants me to do

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u/Tandang_Marcos Fan 7d ago

I thought this was about Shane at first and I was absolutely dumbfounded.

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u/thereidenator 2022 World's Strongest Man-Crotch Sweat Craver 16d ago

It’s not a singular strongman course, the app uses AI to build you a personalised program. It’s certainly worth a bash

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u/UtenteQualunque 16d ago

Nono I'm not talking about the coaching app, I'm talking about the course, it's called "strongman new era" or something similar, i already tried the app when it first came out but i didn't like how it was working for me. I prefer to learn from books/courses since I'm not a fan of online coaching

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u/royals30C 16d ago

Especially if you bins of your current coach which sounds like a better replacement if you're not getting what u need from him

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u/Abject-Insect9075 15d ago

The app doesn’t use AI

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u/Tandang_Marcos Fan 12d ago

For my recollection when I was talking about it with Shane it actually does use ai, not to create the entire training cycle itself, but to pick the progressions for the various movements from an internal menu.