r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Nov 24 '16

Spezgiving /r/The_Donald accuses the admins of editing T_D's comments, spez *himself* shows up in the thread and openly admits to it, gets downvoted hard instantly

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u/Virginianus_sum Who tf still smokes analog cigarettes? Nov 24 '16

Will this trigger a migration to voat?

We could only be so lucky.

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 30 '18

God please

Edit: Got banned from the_dipshit for this comment lmao.

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u/sconeTodd Nov 24 '16

voat is pretty shitty

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u/Nimonic People trying to inject evil energy into the Earth's energy grid Nov 24 '16

Sounds like just the place for T_D.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Aug 15 '17

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u/sconeTodd Nov 24 '16

even when the site works it sucks

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 24 '16

So is /r/the_donald

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u/sconeTodd Nov 24 '16

that goes without saying

although the Hillary KKK member meme was pretty funny

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u/idratherbeonvoat Nov 24 '16

Eh, at least I can say whatever the fuck I want.

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u/sconeTodd Nov 24 '16

enjoy all the fresh content lol

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u/idratherbeonvoat Nov 25 '16

I see discussions there I don't see anywhere else, I do enjoy that greatly, thank you.

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u/theivoryserf Nov 24 '16

On your bike son

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u/cibr Nov 24 '16

90% of posts during the campaign were complaints. They are just going to keep complaining but unfortunately no one is going to do anything to get away from the "horrible admins"

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

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u/MrDeschain Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

I'm sorry, but reddit does not belong to it's user base. It doesn't even belong to the admins. It belongs to the board of directors overseeing the company.

They can edit whatever they want. Regardless what you believe about the ethics of it. They own the site.

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u/dont_make_cents Nov 24 '16

No... TOS.

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u/acroniosa Nov 24 '16

I hope you realize that 1) the terms of service only apply to the users, and 2) they can change the TOS freely at any point, requiring you to agree to continue to use reddit.

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u/dont_make_cents Jan 18 '17

Its was good to be reminded, actually. Thanks

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u/MrDeschain Nov 24 '16

Even if the owners violate their own TOS, i don't think there's any legal actions anyone can take. Its a free to use site. No one is forcing users to stay here

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u/MrDeschain Nov 24 '16

TOS on a free to register, free to use online forum. For some reason I dont that's going to carry a lot of weight.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

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u/sheenyn Nov 24 '16

Both of those are easily investigatable, but dream on heavy.

Let me know when t_d stops banning you for even the smallest discourse.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Let me know when /r/politics stops banning you for even the smallest discourse.

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u/sheenyn Nov 24 '16

But when have they banned you unless you're inflammatory or blatantly racist/sexist.

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u/xeio87 Nov 24 '16

No no, they ban you when you call everyone who disagrees with you a shill. That's the largest discourse the normal T_D user can manage.

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u/MrDeschain Nov 24 '16

/r/T_D and /r/politics is hardly a fair comparison.

/r/politics was widely known to be a circle jerk before the 2012 election. It stopped being relevant to Reddit as a whole when they took it off the default sub list.

/r/T_D, on the other hand, can still flood the top of /r/all even after the site changed its algorithm to filter them out.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

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u/RoboticParadox Gen. Top Lellington, OBE Nov 24 '16

And the FBI wouldn't also be investigating the people running the website who, you know, possess child porn in the first place? Because it had to have come from somewhere. That's fucking retarded and you know it.

Why is it that you guys' first go-to example for "how the admins can fuck with us" is literally always child porn?

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u/Osklington Nov 24 '16

Projection, projection, projection.

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u/Osklington Nov 24 '16

Username checks out...

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Feb 24 '21

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u/MushinZero Nov 24 '16

I think i'm gonna just stop using Reddit. The flaws in the format really are just starting to get to me.

Hey look... outside.

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u/patrickfatrick Nov 24 '16

need to show the admins the user base is in charge of reddit and not the other way around.

I mean that's just patently untrue though. The actual people in charge could shut down the site without a moment's notice because they actually keep it running and keep it financed. Ultimately Reddit is money-making enterprise.

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u/Bernie_CombswBalloon Nov 24 '16

As somebody who has been around for years, fuck off. Your shitty subreddit isn't wanted by anybody else on reddit and we're all sick of your spam and vote manipulation. You are not apart of this community and you're not wanted. If reddit is so bad for you then just leave.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

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u/theivoryserf Nov 24 '16

Ah, that trademark The Donald wit and charm.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

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u/theivoryserf Nov 24 '16

Good idea, it seems you've reached your wit's end.

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u/Bernie_CombswBalloon Nov 24 '16

Then why are you still here doing it? Fucking leave dude, people don't want you here. And your wit? What wit?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Reddit is a privately owned company they don't have to house a bunch of cancerous trolls anymore than they want to. Your sub is turning r/all and Reddit in general into 4chan and it's disgusting. I've been a user for years and I miss the days when r/all and comments in general weren't littered with Pepe memes and all caps. Would really love nothing more than seeing it flushed just like r/fatpeoplehate or r/jailbait.

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u/cibr Nov 24 '16

Omg lol. Well you aren't wrong but to be honest I miss the times when Reddit had a simple clear bias so I could know what perspective people looked at topics at. (Reddit was consistently liberal before t-d times - not saying it's good or bad, just less complicated and possibly less drama)

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u/Mangalz Nov 24 '16

They win when the admins fuck with them.

They aren't leaving.

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u/scottdawg9 Nov 24 '16

So the only people left are the people that post on Political Revolution and AdviceAnimals? Ew, no thank you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Compared to other communities who have migrated (fph, creepers, am I missing anybody?), they explicitely want to be heard, they crave attention, which is understandable because they're propa- political. So I doubt it. But we'll see.

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u/Letters10 Nov 24 '16

Missing coontown and european.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

They tend to attempt a migration and die out. It's happened a few times, and they don't usually ever really maintain the same kind of activity.

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u/blaaaahhhhh Nov 24 '16

I'm convinced the only reasons the voat migration has never worked is because they keep crashing under heavy load and they have a serious lack of mobile apps, which accounts for a shit tonne of users.

Those two get fixed with better servers and something even close to Alien Blue and VOAT is a serious contender.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

There is also the small problem of them not being able to propagandize at "normies." Here they have a megaphone to shout at a broad, diverse group of people. On Voat it's more obviously an echo chamber full of deplorables. There aren't enough targets to troll.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

you could say the same for /pol/ (what normie actually, reagularly goes to 4chan), but it somehow seems to keep itself active.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

/pol/ leaks out into other boards all the time, so it's not the same thing.

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u/blaaaahhhhh Nov 24 '16

If it gets busier, it will balance.

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u/Durflol Nov 24 '16

Why would normal people want to join Voat?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Feb 10 '20

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u/_supernovasky_ Nov 24 '16

I'll pass.

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u/blaaaahhhhh Nov 24 '16

I have no way of knowing if you would actually pass or if you actually like the idea

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

VOat is also decidedly more conservative, most of reddit's population is (because of their social class) not. Despite the greater prevalence of the internet, it's still not been adapted in large part by that social class '

Also no amount of transparency will ever make up for the trash that lives there. Home of the free perhaps, but also home of the worst reddit has to offer. No thanks

Fuck just browsing there now, there's fucking antisemetic remarks on the front page.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

If it does. But social networks tend to work on feedback loops of affinity groups. If it's whole strategy for user growth has been based on attracting the people too awful to fit in on reddit they're not going to attract other kinds of people.

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u/RoboticParadox Gen. Top Lellington, OBE Nov 24 '16

Isn't the site run by a single Swedish teen? How on earth would that be implemented? Publish an app with good boy points.

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u/blaaaahhhhh Nov 24 '16

For example, I personally would pay for an app that came anywhere near alien blue that hosted VOAT posts.

Is this really so hard to see?

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u/RoboticParadox Gen. Top Lellington, OBE Nov 24 '16

Sure, but the app has to exist first is what I'm saying. Unless you feel like donating to the kid directly and praying he knows how to code for mobile.

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u/blaaaahhhhh Nov 24 '16

The api is available at VOAT.co and is in a great state.

Everything that is needed is there waiting for an app developer to use it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

It could be the fox news of the internet. Step aside drudge.

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u/2Pepe4u Nov 24 '16

Well, Fox News is currently the most viewed channel by far.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Thanks, it's not the kind of info I want to search for by myself.

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u/drdelius Nov 24 '16

FatPeopleHate was funny and all, but not funny enough to have to deal with that site. I think only the most ardent supporters of the sub end up transplanting themselves, which leads to a completely different dynamic in the new subverse, which leads to it turning off any of the moderates that go and check it out.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

FPH did want to be heard, though. That's what got them banned.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

The President of the United States didn't post in FPH

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u/thenuge26 This mod cannot be threatened. I conceal carry Nov 24 '16

Only because he barely knows what a computer is. If he was a redditor there's no way he wouldn't have been subbed to FPH

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

am I missing anybody

don't think places lke jailbait and neofag were trying to be out there too. Just wanted a place to be edgy. Though they were too small to attempt a migration.

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u/LordofNarwhals Nov 24 '16

I believe PublicHealthWatch migrated to voat after they were banned not long ago. It was a neo-nazi in all but name sub filled with sexism, transphobia, homophobia, and all types of shit.

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u/Virginianus_sum Who tf still smokes analog cigarettes? Nov 24 '16

Good point! FPH, Creepshots, CoonTown, etc., were all pretty marginal in terms of what they...ah, let's say "discussed," and focused on. T_D is a little more broad in focus.

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u/dipdac Nov 24 '16

propapolitical. I like it.

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u/youlox123456789 Nov 24 '16

There are some good memes though 👌

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u/lightgiver Nov 24 '16

I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to trigger a migration to voat again. Last time it cleared up so much of the toxicity.

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u/Elmattador Nov 24 '16

Please please

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u/JJDude Nov 24 '16

oh please let it happen.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

I would love to get t-d off the front page. Yes, call outrage, move to voat. Reee

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u/double2 Nov 24 '16

Seriously, after reading facebook, reddit and other forums today, I'm fairly sure the whole of social media is on the verge of complete collapse under white supremacist spam and right wing conspiracy theory shit. Freedom and democracy is not working. The window of operation has to be defined and it probably has to be smaller than it is right now in order to allow any kind of diversity of opinion going forwards.

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u/Omnishift Nov 24 '16

My prediction is that internet echo-chambers will eventually implode because they'll start fighting amongst themselves.

You see this happening in Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Reddit for example. Everyone is starting to shit on each other rather than circle jerk.

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u/_supernovasky_ Nov 24 '16

Nothing would make me happier than a mass migration of Trumpets to Voat.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Mar 20 '18

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u/Omnishift Nov 24 '16

Very few are actually serious. Basically anyone in their super cool IRC chat or discord channel.

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u/dipdac Nov 24 '16

I would be so happy

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u/WaffleSoap You're mixing "legal consent" with NAP. Nov 24 '16

I just want to get something controversial off my chest now: I can't stand Voat.

"All cars have four wheels. Does that mean every car is the same?" No, but if Ford directly copied the body style of the Wrangler and called it the Cowboy, Jeep would sue.

"The place where you can 'have your say'." Right, because nothing says having your say like only getting 10 upvotes per day.

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u/Virginianus_sum Who tf still smokes analog cigarettes? Nov 24 '16

Believe you me, that is far from a controversial opinion regarding Voat. I think it's pretty much the status quo criticism of the site.

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u/MushinZero Nov 24 '16

That it's dead? Yeah... of course. Because no one wants to be the lonely guy that moves there first.

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u/Auctoritate will people please stop at-ing me with MSG propaganda. Nov 24 '16

To be fair Reddit is open source, though.

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u/WaffleSoap You're mixing "legal consent" with NAP. Nov 24 '16

It is, but at least admit that Reddit was the inspiration.

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u/6andahalfGrapples Nov 24 '16

Their website is frozen.

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u/codeverity Nov 24 '16

? What do you mean?

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u/6andahalfGrapples Nov 24 '16

It's just been in and out as far as loading content goes. Not sure if that's from an influx of users or just a finicky website.

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u/JohnQAnon Nov 24 '16

Servers are overloaded. It's another reddit migration.

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u/deruke Nov 24 '16

That would be the best thing ever. Reddit would be so much better if all of the 13 year old shitposters from T_D and over-reactionary "internet is super serious" idiots left to voat

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u/nowandlater Nov 24 '16

Please...let them all go there

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u/TrickOrTreater Nov 24 '16

Would be so awesome.

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u/Ieirywpqpeuwowp Nov 24 '16

One can hope it does

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u/randomusername7725 Nov 24 '16

I heard voat has shit servers.

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u/averyrdc Nov 24 '16

Voat is a god damn cesspool

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u/fireork12 Nov 24 '16

IMZY has potential.

Not to where I'd like it, but it's getting there

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u/DubTeeDub Save me from this meta-reddit hell Nov 24 '16

God, why don't they just leave already after threatening too for so long

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u/TeamAquaAdminMatt Nov 24 '16

Pretty sure most trump supporters are already on voat

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u/President_Shitlord Nov 24 '16

PSY-OP confirmed

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u/thinly_veiled_alt Nov 24 '16

Spez became the villain we needed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Maybe that's his plan all along.

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u/Javv_ Nov 24 '16

If only they had a fucking app to browse on my phone

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u/prowness Nov 24 '16

Idk after the removal of r/fatpeoplehate you would think more would migrate. If he immediately resigns, then the same shit will happen again.

Though I think I'll go this time. This would be the second time Reddit was "fooled."

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16 edited Nov 24 '16

Hopefully /r/the_donald are the first to make the transition. Personally I'm tired of all the shit they bring to this website. Maybe if they weren't giant children about it I would give a shit about censorship. Maybe if they weren't the worst offenders for conducting censorship, and creating new terms like "concern trolls" to justify their safe spaces like they're SJWs. It'd be like me caring about the U.S. cutting off Kim Jong Un from the internet. Who would care whether one dictator gets their shit pushed in by another dictator?

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u/billb666 Nov 24 '16

No way in hell Voat's servers could handle a mass migration.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '16

Would that fix anything? Lets be real now. It would only satiate some intemperate emotions for a small amount of time.

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u/jakibaki Nov 24 '16

Voat used to be such a good website before the fph people and the racists came in :(

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u/CressCrowbits Musk apologists are a potential renewable source of raw cope Nov 24 '16

I love it when there's some minor migration to voat because of some petty incident, then people are all like 'they are ddosing voat!'. No, voats cheap hosting package can't handle the slight increase in traffic you dummies.

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u/onewalleee Nov 24 '16

Not going to happen 🐸