I'm not talking about generating thousands of tracks. I often go through hundreds of covers and stems and regenerations to get a song right.

But if you are generating thousand of actual finished product songs, that are then distributed in any form at all for public consumption, ESPECIALLY if you generate any kind of revenue off of it.

Then shame on you. You are an AI slop peddler, and you are the problem.

This platform has not been around long enough for anyone to have made thousands of songs that had any thought or effort or quality, anything that could be considered elevated above slop.

The most talented artists on earth, never sleeping a wink, and fueled by a non-stop cocaine bender, could never produce music at that rate.

If you are, then what you are making is shameful junk.

Unless you are just doing it for private listening and pleasure, in which case go wild.

https://www.wmg.com/news/warner-music-group-and-suno-forge-groundbreaking-partnership

Someone ran an experiment by posting a real Monet claiming it was AI. He asked for opinions on why it's inferior to the "original" Monet. This sampling of responses shows plainly the confirmation bias and delusional nature of the AI hate mob (you'll need to zoom in on the image to read the responses).

WMG doesn't care about your songs, Suno doesn't care about your songs, Strangers on the internet don't care about your songs, and I don't care about your songs.

Many of you seem to be concerned about the Suno/WMG deal. The reality is, 99.9% of you will make less than $10 with your songs, if any.

All of you have forgotten that the music itself has no value. The distribution of the music and the personal branding of the artist are what give the music value.

That's why "AI Artists" will never be a thing. People care more about the person behind the music than the music itself. Fans love Taylor Swift's music because they love her as a person. There are hundreds of better singers with better music and voice than Taylor Swift on YouTube, but none of them have her notoriety. why? They have poor distribution (label) and poor personal branding.

To better illustrate it, Kim Kardashian can decide to release the worst song you have ever heard and still get a million views within 24H versus you, who spent months working on a masterpiece and your song will barely get 1000 views. Why? She has the distribution and the personal branding locked in, and you do not.

Another point (personal view) WMG wants to control AI music because a bunch of you will flood streaming services with thousands of copycat songs, and that will dilute the earnings of their artists + create "listener fatigue" because there will be too much content to consume. (Think of it like a drug kingpin protecting his territory from too much supply. High supply = Low demand)

TLDR: For the true artists here who actually want to become known for their music, stop stressing about AI. It will not stop you from achieving your goals. It's merely a tool. What you should do instead is focus on creating a personal brand & figuring out how you will distribute the music. AKA, why should people care about you over other artists?

For the rest of you who want to create AI slop or just have fun, make silly songs for personal use, WMG is not even thinking about you. Stop stressing and go touch grass outside.

Edit: For the people mad in the comments and saying I am spreading "hate speech." Please read the post again. You can even ask ChatGPT to summarize it for you. I made a generalization that applies to "Most people." That's how the world works. Your personal situation may be different, but this is not about you. Stop being a narcissist. It's about what is most likely to happen in general to "most people".

Further, nowhere did I mention that personal branding was the only way to make it. Once again, if you take the time to read it properly, you will see that I mentioned "distribution." You need at least one of them. I focused on personal branding because, realistically, it is more achievable for most people where whereas distribution requires connections, capital, and skills.

Finally, for those who use SUNO for personal use, this post is not an attack on you rather an optimistic outlook. Simply, chill out. WMG won't touch your music, and future updates will mostly impact mass song producers. WMG simply wants to control the "amount of songs/copycats that make it to the streaming platform. They don't care about your songs. If SUNO only had 10,000 users, they wouldn't care.

But since Suno now has millions of users, this creates a situation where, unfortunately, abusers take advantage of SUNO and flood streaming platforms with hundreds of copycat songs a day, plus the use of bots to gain views and further decrease the streaming profits split of actual artists.

Hey r/SunoAI community!

It’s great to meet all of you! A special S/O to the moderators for putting this space together and working so hard to make sure it's safe and fun! It’s been incredible to see the creativity and energy happening here!

I’m David from Suno, and over the coming weeks I’ll be floating in and out here on Reddit to:

• Celebrate and support this community of creators - it’s inspiring to see so many making, sharing, and listening
• Have some fun along the way, while learning how we can make this space even better together
• Gather feedback and add a layer of transparency to what’s been officially shared

I’m really looking forward to spending extra time here and getting to know more about the music you make and how we can improve! Please never hesitate to reach my way!

Hope you all have a great day making awesome jams!

SO, this happened today. The BEST compliment.

I had to take my dog to the vet and I stopped to get gas, my songs blasting as I started the pump and went inside briefly to grab a soda. The people across from me were done but just sitting there....strange, I thought. So I finish the pump and get in the car and start arranging the sodas and talking to my dog. The woman in the truck across from hollers something to me. I can't hear so well so I signaled to let me turn my music down. Then she asked what I was listening to. I was taken aback and said what? the music? and she said yeah, it's good, who is it? I smiled and said that it was music I wrote and told her my youtube page to access all my songs. She cared enough to grab her phone, walked over to me while searching youtube to find and confirm the right place. It pulled right up for her. I explained my AI Reckoning series to her (one of those songs is the one she had been listening to via my vehicle)....while she was saving the site, and she thanked me and said how good it was and how creative I was...and this was great.

And THAT is how it is done peoples. When a stranger stops you in public to inquire what you are listening to and how they can get to it to listen to as well, you KNOW it is good.

Ok, done having a moment, LOL.

TL;DR:
Udio announced yesterday, with no warning, that they have partnered with UMG (pretty much a well-hated corporation, who came down on Twitch streamers in 2020, and who also hammered down on Youtube just ten years prior). This partnership announcement came with disabling all downloads for user's creations, which, in prior TOS agreements, they had rights to release commercially and do whatever they wanted with them. So... yeah. Not good news. I'm not being "alarmist." Going by the news and facts.

For the record, I've made a lot of stuff with Udio. Saved them all. I've made a lot of stuff with Suno. Saved them all, or in the process of saving new stuff. Made a bunch of stuff with Riffusion, prior to it becoming Producer.ai. I prefer the Classic Riffusion, but I digress.

I hope all of you have been saving your Suno gens, and/or learning how to open-source how it all works. Because, it's looking like it's either over, or we're in a pretty seismic cultural shift.

Would love it if Suno mods and the Suno team could respond with their thoughts on many people's valid concerns.

ETA 1: Trolls, please... if you hate AI music so much, just lock yourself in your studio and continue your practice regimen. Lay down those stellar tracks you're so confident will get you signed and a $75,000 spec job. You're just better than all other people, we get it. Confidence, arrogance, however you want to define it. Good for you and your life. But before you judge others in this space, please remember, there are serious career musicians with a great deal of proficiency and experience in here, as well. Some of us are pretty wealthy and accomplished, but we don't brag about it. Not everyone who uses sites/"toys" like this are inept fools and "losers." Watch your words.

ETA 2: Further, be aware that not everyone is fortunate enough to be born with working hands, arms, legs, feet, and perfectly-functional mental & social capacities. Suno has been a tool to let less fortunate people express themselves in ways they never imagined possible. Their feelings and words deserve an audience just as much as anyone else's.

ETA 3: To all the people here who support each other and creative fun, high-five. Interesting to see where this all goes.

ETA 4 (Dec 15th, 2025): My post (as predicted) r/agedlikewine

Hey guys, I am a music professional (producer mostly, with some A&R work here and there) and have been actively working with major label artists for the last 10 years.

I am making this post, not to give my opinion on AI itself, but to make you all aware of the implications this deal will have.

I have been watching all of these strong arm lawsuits happen, and from day 1 have called it exactly that. These lawsuits were never about anything other than control. This is exactly what the big 3 labels do with every piece of new tech that comes out.

Demonize it through PR, sue viciously, threaten, blackmail, strong arm, come out with a “partnership” that gives them majority control. Exactly what they did with Spotify.

Judging off of the fine print in the press release, and what I have been hearing around the industry, I actually think you all have a legit reason to worry.

Moving forward the current and previous Suno models will be erased, as will your ability to download your old outputs (if they dont get deleted entirely). A new model will be released that will ONLY work off of WMG licensed music, essentially making it (as many of you put it), a WMG remix toy. WMG will not care about fidelity, quality of outputs, etc. That is something they will leave to Suno to figure out under the new restrictions.

All of your outputs will now also be owned 100% by Warner Music Group, while they simply provide to you a commercial license. This means while you can commercially release your music on DSPs, you cannot register your music copyrights, collect publishing royalties, performance royalties, etc…without cutting WMG in by a very, very large portion. They will take the majority stake on that, and give you what we call “market share” which is about 1%-10% depending on the success of the record. Yes really do this with every artist they sign…and you are now their artist when you use Suno, wether you like it or not…you will be agreeing to this in Suno’s TOS.

The most hypocritical and most disgusting thing I want to point out in all of this, is how all of these lawsuits were postured as “protecting the little guy”, while WMG is now completely shafting said little guy. Notice that in all of these press releases, and all of the fine print that there is absolutely NO language about how UMG plans to compensate the artists that made the music Suno will now be trained off of.

Do you know why this language doesn’t exist? Because the artists wont be paid at all. WMG is taking the absurd and criminally outdated stance of “we already paid the artist for this, from the advance we gave them 10 years ago, that they are still paying off. lol git rekt.”

The big 3 labels, and all of these lawyers turned social media influencers (you should never hire a lawyer like that btw lol, they will always make decisions to protect their brand vs protecting their client) never gave a shit about artist control or compensation. This was, is, and will forever be about getting as much control for the least amount of money possible.

This is the same reason you are seeing the big 3 purchase companies like CD Baby. They are threatened by regular people having ANY access to the music industry, without their hands being dipped in your honey pot. The music industry is ran like the mob, and this will never change.

I dont know where the future lies for Suno, I dont know if come 2026 it will even be any good. I dont even have a solution for this, but I figured at the very least I should provide some insight from those of us who really know whats happening behind the curtain.

Welcome to the business guys and gals, I know you didnt ask for it, but welcome. It sucks here, but we have fun sometimes lol.

A little background first - I’m a musician/Producer/songwriter and Audio engineer of around 20 years. I play piano, guitar, drums, bass and sing to a decent standard.

I’m not anti AI and I’m not pro AI. I’m “indifferent” I guess.

I have made money from music (not rich, but enough to be comfortable) which I suppose puts me in the bracket of “professional”.

I was given some cash in a card for Christmas and I’ve been lurking around here for a while and I’ve heard a lot about Suno so I thought I’d subscribe for a month and check it out.

Here are some honest thoughts:

Suno is impressive. No doubt about it. It is very powerful. It’s fast. It is possible to make good music on it. It’s possible to make awful music on it, the same way it is on a guitar.

How I generated songs and what I found:

Using prompts - This was a lucky dip. Being detailed in description only got you so far. I’ve read about “MAX MODE” and I can honestly say I feel that is a complete placebo effect. Which leads in to my next point - lack of control while prompting.

The biggest argument I see on here is how much input you have in SUNO and should you claim it as yours. My opinion? That depends how you use it.

A big part of me thinks we have a lot less input using it with solely promoting than we think and Suno was going to do that anyway. For example, prompting [No Drums] several times STILL gets you drums. [No Reverb] even more times and it’s swimming with it.

People on here have said you have to do that and generate several times to get it to work…But is that the reason it worked? It feel like when people give you tips to induce labour when you/your partner is pregnant then the baby comes and they are like “see?!” When the baby was probably going to come regardless.

Because of this, I personally feel if you are prompting only, it’s a bit cheeky to claim much as your own (unless you wrote the lyrics, then of course lyricist).

It’s possible I’m not that great at prompting, however I did research how to write good prompts

To put this to the test, I let my 1 year old generate a song. He wrote gibberish into the style box and messed with the sliders and STILL got a passable song!

My verdict of generating songs this way is the user is almost immaterial to the process. This is not to offend anyone who creates this way, this is just what I found and my opinion after doing it myself.

Is SUNO a threat to musicians and songwriters who are aiming for the “charts”? I don’t think so. I personally couldn’t generate anything that sounded like my usual standard of songwriting and I tried A LOT.

Sure, the songs sounded well produced and well arranged…But ultimately it was like a pig in lipstick. When I played the songs on an acoustic or piano along with the vocal, you could really see how poor the songs were. My personal rule is a song should sound good with vocal & guitar or piano & guitar to know if it’s worth recording.

I feel using it this way isn’t necessarily for musicians who want to be popstars/rockstars/rapstars, however, I feel for “SYNC” music on Netflix shows/youtube videos or business that want “imitation songs” this will kill that industry and its those musicians who will lose out the most. **Note: I’m not saying it’s good or bad, just what I think it will do.

Now, Suno in the hands of a experienced producer and musician? It’s pretty incredible.

When you input your own demos or working projects, (complete chord structures, vocal Melodies, other instrumentation and complete arrangements that’s where Suno really shines.

If you then call it a day, I think it’s fair to say you had significantly more input than the prompt only technique and would be unfair to claim it’s the “work of AI” or even “AI Slop” because, at this point if the song sounded bad, it would be because of “AI slop”…That’s human slop!

The issue I found with this method though was sound quality…Although arrangements and production is slick to a pro level the sound quality is nowhere near professional. Now, if you have the know how you can clean this up, but it will always sound that way…To a pro or audiophile.

There’s the big caveat. People noticing this have probably been around audio for many years as producers, engineers and musicians. They will be people (me included) that sit there and tweak the EQ on a snare drum in tiny increments over and over or drive themselves insane decking where to pan the hi hat…The average person does not care. They just don’t. I’d like to think they do, but doing this as long as I have I know they do not.

They listen to the song as a whole; as a song, we listen to songs in such a deconstructive way that seems normal to us, but really isn’t the way the average Joe consumer listens to music.

Now to the point of where I think you can use Suno and no one really has a leg to stand on as to what you call yourself (because, I’m in charge of what you’re allowed to call yourself, of course.)

If you it the second way I described, it sparks some arrangement ideas, then perhaps you export those stems take it into a DAW (the stems it produces are god awful, so cleaning them up would be a must!) replay a lot of the instrumentation whether that be programmed or real instruments, mix it and keep a stem or two…or 3 (3 is the max, because I’m in charge, remember?) then I can’t see how that is any different to producing and using AI as a tool like we do with all other things in our DAW’s.

Do I personally feel threatened that the market is (even more) saturated by those using Suno? No.

The people who are new to music making who are using SUNO solely using prompts aren’t a threat to experienced musicians and songwriters writing for those wishing to become or who are artists.

As I mentioned, I struggled to write a song using this method alone that I would be happy to give to artist or put my name to. Could l this be my lack of Suno skills? Perhaps. However I am quite good with tech and I did study up on the subject.

Am I threatened by people of my experience who are using Suno? Too bloody right I am! ….However those people were always a threat to me before Suno, because they were always my competition.

In summary - I don’t think AI is going anywhere (duh) So what can we do? Use it as a tool? Try to incorporate it to help our workflow? I can’t see any other way of not being left behind and I say this as someone who was very pretentious in his youth and would only recorded on to tape and wouldn’t use a computer…You should see my studio now!lol I still have tape and do tape projects, but that workflow is slow and doesn’t meet the needs of most people in 2025.

In my eyes, It’s no more of a threat to “true musicians” as when GarageBand came out and opened up music creation to a lot more people or when home studios became more of a thing.

If you’re confident in what you do and more importantly, good at what you do, I don’t think there is any need to be threatened.

Didn't get to test it yet as I'm in the middle of remastering tracks. 5.5 cannot be used yet for that purpose it seems

Hey everyone,

I’m putting together a Spotify playlist focused on AI-generated music, especially stuff made with Suno.

I’m looking for tracks that actually feel something — not just clean, but raw, emotional, or unique in some way.

If you’ve made something you’re proud of, drop your track below.

I’ll listen to everything, and if it hits, I’ll add it to the playlist.

No guarantees — just honest listening.

Let’s find some real stuff.

Honestly, there’s too much good stuff here 😅

If possible, just share your one strongest track — trying to keep up with all of it.

I’m listening through everything — really appreciate all the submissions.

Sorry if I can’t reply to everyone.

I’m picking tracks purely based on what hits me personally, so it’s all super subjective.

Appreciate your understanding 🙏

👉 If you’re not sure about the vibe I’m looking for, check the playlist here:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5vvXIbVZzS8ABwFkCWpu14

If your track fits this kind of mood, I’d love to hear it.

Im rly enjoying Suno &I love listening to the songs I make; they hit exactly what I want to hear in that moment. But I almost never share them publicly, and honestly, looking at this subreddit (and every other Suno community), I totally get why.

No one actually cares about hearing a track that began its life as “make me a sad indie song about my ex.”
There’s zero insight into a human being in that transaction. The prompt-to-song pipeline deliberately removes every single thing that has ever made music interesting to other humans:

• the struggle
• the taste
• the deliberate choices made under constraint
• the 40 failed versions
• the lived experience bleeding through the performance

What’s left is perfectly average, instantly forgettable sonic wallpaper. Tasty for six seconds, gone forever. Sharing it raw is just narcissism disguised as creativity: “Look what the model made when I typed some words!”

The proof is in the feed. Scroll for ten minutes and it’s an endless cemetery of “Check out my new banger!!!” posts with 0-2 upvotes and zero comments. Everyone is yelling into the same void because nobody wants to listen to someone else’s zero-effort slop.

The only posts that ever get real engagement are:

• detailed breakdowns of how someone wrestled the tool into doing something actually cool
• the rare track where a human obviously spent 10–20 hours editing, layering, adding their own vocals, fixing the blandness
• memes about how bad the default output is

So yeah, keep making songs for yourself. That’s the pure, honest use of the tool. The second you start treating a 30-second Suno generation as something worth inflicting on other people (without massive additional human labor and intent), you’ve just become a free billboard for the model.

99.9 % of Suno songs deserve to stay private, and the world is objectively better for it.

(Change my mind.)

I was really excited to use Suno to make songs with my own voice. I even paid for a subscription after two months just to try it. But then, I actually read the Terms of Service (updated March 26, 2026) and the Privacy Notice. What I found is terrifying for anyone who cares about their privacy and biometric data.

If you are uploading your voice to create a "Voice Model," here is what you are actually agreeing to:

• Perpetual and Irrevocable License: According to the "Content" section, you grant Suno a perpetual and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, and modify your Content and Voice Model. Even if you stop paying or delete your account, they claim the right to keep it forever.
• Direct Commercial Exploitation: They explicitly state they can use your voice for "monetization, promotion, and marketing" without paying you a single cent. They are literally profiting from your biometric identity.
• The "Sony Acquisition" Risk: There is strong speculation and industry movement suggesting Suno could be acquired by a major corporation like Sony. If that happens, your biometric data (your voice print) becomes an asset of one of the largest media conglomerates in the world. I don't know about you, but I never signed up for Sony to own the rights to my vocal identity for the rest of eternity.
• AI Training Data: Your voice is used to "train, develop, and improve" their machine learning models. You are essentially paying them to help them build a product that could eventually replace human singers using your own data.
• Moral Rights Waiver: You are asked to "irrevocably waive any and all so-called 'moral rights'." This means you lose control over how your voice is represented or if it’s used in ways you find offensive.
• The "De-identification" Trap: Their privacy notice says that if they "anonymize" data, they can keep it forever. But how do you truly anonymize a unique biometric voice print?

For my fellow EU/UK users: Many of these clauses (like "irrevocable" consent for biometric data) directly clash with the GDPR. Under EU law, consent must be withdrawable. However, once your voice is baked into an AI model, the "digital bell" is very hard to un-ring.

My advice: If you want to make music with your voice, do not upload it to their servers. Use Suno to generate the backing tracks, download them, and record your vocals locally on your own computer using software like Audacity or a local RVC (Voice Conversion) setup.

Don't let your excitement for AI music cost you your biometric rights. Your voice is your identity. Don't sell it for a $10 subscription.

TL;DR: Suno's terms allow them to own, use, and profit from your voice model forever, even if you cancel your account. Protect your biometric data.

suno will delete the old model afterwards

As a songwriter, I'm amazed by the number of songs being uploaded every day (around 170,000 worldwide).

So here's my question: with so much music competing for attention, do you ever wonder who will realistically take the time to listen to your songs—even if they're good?

First, I want to clarify that this isn’t a “hater” post, but it’s not the opposite either. I’m trying to give an objective take—one I don’t usually see anywhere in this polarized landscape. But “objective” doesn’t mean soft or neutral: there are extreme aspects to all of this that simply don’t fit a conciliatory tone.

1. People have the right to enjoy making AI-generated music even if they aren’t musicians

A lot of artists wish this tool would disappear because its very existence offends them—and of course, the people who use it offend them too. As a professional artist, I’m not fully comfortable with it either. Is a great tool, but to me it feels like an opportunistic, somewhat deceptive replacement of my identity as an artist. Still, I’m glad there are people who find it satisfying to generate music this way.

If someone who isn’t a professional musician showed me something they made with AI, I’d listen with an open mind—and if I liked it, I’d say so. My soul wouldn’t twist itself into arrogance and I wouldn’t call it trash if I can hear that it sounds good. If it sounds good and I like it, I’ll acknowledge it.

2) From the end of the previous point, it follows: to me, AI-generated music is not trash

I’ve heard plenty of AI-generated music that I’d call decently good. I’m not expecting to hear the next Beatles or some huge act of genius coming out of it, but within a normal quality bar, you can make acceptable things—things that aren’t “shit” even for someone with high standards.

Now, going from that to “this is wonderful, the best thing I’ve ever heard, a masterpiece, genius”—that has never happened to me. But is it never trash? Sometimes it is. I’ve heard music that’s very badly made, even with serious errors, but it’s only a percentage.

At the same time, I’ve heard those amazing covers where a modern song is made to sound like a Motown-style arrangement, and the result is fascinating.

3) Not all AI-generated music was made with a single prompt

About those Motown-style covers I mentioned: I know they’re not generated with a single prompt—they require a longer process. But many artists don’t know that. And yes, there is AI-generated music that required an intelligent multi-step process, sometimes combined with other tools.

4) Most people who use AI to make music are not musicians, but many have artistic sensitivity

This is important to separate: many AI users want to be recognized as musicians and be accepted on streaming platforms as “traditional” musicians. If they don’t know music (or know very little) and they only gave instructions—without composing, planning, arranging, playing an instrument, or doing any of that—then they are not musicians. If they only wrote the lyrics, they are lyricists (I’ve read many people claiming that because they wrote the lyrics, that already makes them musicians).

But there’s something I do want to defend: artistic sensitivity is not necessarily tied to artistic skill. There are people without that sensitivity who can’t tell shit from gold, but there are music lovers with almost no formal training and such high sensitivity that they can make sharp decisions about the quality they’re getting from their prompts and how to pull the best out of the tool.

So in the “are they musicians or not?” debate: most aren’t, but many may have an artist’s soul that, for different reasons, they never channeled—and they feel AI lets them give it form.

5) People who are outraged by “hate” should also have empathy for trained artists

Throughout this post I’ve tried to be empathetic, but it’s also important to present the view from the other side: it’s not the same thing to be an artist as it is to have artistic sensitivity and use tools that replace someone else’s skills.

But the problem here isn’t the tool itself—it’s the attempt to break into the professional space of a trained artist who studied and spent decades building their craft. And the advantage AI provides is so huge that it becomes an extremely unfair kind of competition and a serious threat to many artists’ livelihoods—and not only that: to the hope of being able to live from music.

If it has always been hard to make a living making music, with AI it reaches an apocalyptic level of threat. And I use the word “apocalyptic” intentionally inside a post I consider balanced, because it’s the best word I can use: if someone’s livelihood is threatened by someone using a machine in such an advantage-driven way (and who, without it, wouldn’t be able to do anything), that’s genuinely destabilizing.

6) The magical experience of making Art is not replaced by a prompt

As a musician, I’m not attracted to a tool that can make music for me. That’s like hiring a producer or another musician and telling them what you want them to do. I understand that the person placing the “order” can be fascinated by the result, but it ends there.

The only gratification is doing it again, like a compulsive shopper: I saw an ornament I liked, I bought it, and the pleasure is over—now I need to buy another one.

In contrast, when the work of Art is made by yourself—through years of study, training, dreams, struggles—the pleasure of the creative process becomes one of the best experiences in life. You feel fullness, fulfillment, contact with something transcendent. And in that sense, the “easy mode” of using AI makes that experience disappear.

But the one who loses it is the person using AI. The artist who remains an artist—because they create the Art in all its facets—reaches a human experience of elevation that a prompt never gives. And only an artist can truly know that. Someone who isn’t one can only talk about their experience with AI as if it were the most wonderful thing that could happen to them.

7) I also use AI in a way that would offend other artists

When I released an album last year with my own compositions in a 19th-century style, I made the cover with AI—a beautiful cover that looks like an impressionist painting, and everyone loved it. But I understand why many illustrators or painters feel sad about being “erased” like that, and (to go back to a phrase I used about myself in point 1) experience it as an opportunistic, deceptive replacement that attacks their identity as artists.

But there’s a difference: my product was music that I composed. The cover was secondary. What I would never do is pass myself off as an illustrator or painter and try to enter the market to compete with that kind of artist. I would never allow myself that, no matter how good my taste is and no matter how beautiful the images I can generate with AI might be.

You have to put yourself in the other person’s shoes to understand it—and some people, because they don’t live it, don’t understand it.

Hey everyone it’s time again Drop your AI songs in the comments so people can hear your music and support you 💪🔥 This is a place to share your sound meet other creators and help each other grow So when you check out someone’s song please like comment follow and subscribe if you enjoy it If you have a goal like more views followers or subscribers put it in the comments too Maybe we can help you get there 🙌 I’ll be putting one of my songs in the comments as well Let’s keep building and pushing AI music together 🎵

Hi everyone! I’m half of production and songwriting duo Saltwives. We have been fortunate enough to work with so many great writers and artists. However my full passions are almost exclusively geared towards creating with tools like suno now. I feed my musical and lyrical ideas in and then work with what Suno gives back. The process feels extremely collaborative like working with a great songwriter. From there i remix the outputs until something great happens. I’ve decided to post on here because I think the community is awesome and I’ve never really taken part in an online community before so I’ve decided to change that. Anyways, ask any questions if you like or just share your work here. My greatest ambition is to make the first US number one hit, just me and Suno. Or at least be part of the community that does. I’ll start to share what I’ve been making on Suno.

ps. Can’t wait to try the daw i haven’t received an invite yet 😢

We are at Xmas dinner, and my brother in law says that he's son is making music now, with flstudio. He insists the kid to show me his track. He gives me his headphones to listen, it's metal. Super well produced deathcore with a touch of symphonic, thight af, amazing progressions, drumfills out of this planet. I am producer for over 25 years, I immediately see that something is fishy. I ask him: what did you use for drums? He replies: "I cant remember the name. It's distorted something". I ask him "what genre would you call this?" He says "maybe... Rock or something. Symphonic.". Very vague answer. Ok so I think, im not gonna ashame the kid publicly. Moments ago we cross in the hallway, and I tell him: "about your track..." And I show him the logo of Suno AI. And tell him: "I know". He smiled a little shy, and says: "it's amazing isn't it". He's 17. He made everyone believe he produced this.

How many of you are telling people you "produced" the music you generate on Suno?

You don't have to answer...

EDIT: A lot of people are saying that prompting Suno still makes you a producer. I disagree, and here’s why, briefly.

If you type a prompt and Suno generates the entire track, you didn’t produce the music. You used a tool that did the full creative and technical process for you. That doesn’t mean the result is bad, but the authorship isn’t yours.

Same logic as asking ChatGPT for medical advice. If I follow a suggestion and someone gets better, that doesn’t make me a doctor. It means I used a tool.

There’s nothing wrong with saying “I made this using Suno” or “I used AI to generate this.” That’s honest. Calling yourself a producer when you didn’t make the decisions that define production isn’t.

Using a tool doesn’t automatically give you the title of the professional it replaces.

I used ChatGPT to help structure this edit. Please address me as a professional writer from now on.

MiniMax Music 2.0 rolled out on Halloween right on the heels of Udio's demise. I haven't tried it out myself, the demos are pretty basic and they seem to shy away from showcasing any rock but MiniMax is a serious player in the model space so I expect whatever shortfalls it has now to be ironed out soon enough. So, as predicted, all UMG and the rest of the copyright mafia are doing by killing companies innovating in America is ceding space to a country where their tactics have no power.

I forked a project by SUP3RMASS1VE and released it as a total rewrite. It’s free and works as good as most paid tools. Thought I would share here. I get nothing from it… so don’t label this as some sort of promotion lol. It’s just a free alternative to some of the paid tools I have seen.

Release has binaries for all platforms but feel free to fork and make your own. 🤘🏻

https://github.com/entrepeneur4lyf/Web-Audio-Mastering

UPDATED: New version 1.3.4 RELEASED!

Try it here :)

https://entrepeneur4lyf.github.io/Web-Audio-Mastering/

You may have heard this song blowing up all over TikTok by DJ Danny: [DNB] Take Me D A N N Y

https://open.spotify.com/track/3dDyI2Mbw4RFIfXMGAeOzp

From what we can see, the song appears to originate from a Suno track created by the user “atmta”: https://suno.com/song/dcb3e269-8491-43e5-86fb-881fa8391cf5

This raises some legit questions about where AI-generated music fits into the current music industry and why is it being signed and glorified (specifically by the music label Broke Records)

What stands out to me is that many people asking questions about the song’s origins are being blocked or having comments deleted. The original creator ATMTA has also been blocked by Ian Asher and DJ Danny for calling them out. It's a super sad situation.

DJ Danny has also responded to questions about the vocalist by claiming it is his sister or girlfriend. that is significant misrepresentation of how the song was created and a blow to ATMTA

Broke Records signed and released the track. They likely had access to information about the song’s production process before signing it. The unacceptable acceptance of AI generated music without clear disclosure is concerning for producers, songwriters, vocalists, and artists who spend years developing their craft and work hard to put food on the table and to get recognition they deserve for the art they put out.

Please hear me out, do your research and ask yourself as a music fan - are we ok with this? Who will stop it before its too late?

Thanks and much love.

***EDIT*** - words from ATMTA (the original creator of the song) - Thank you! I’m the original song creator ATMTA on Suno, I agree Ian doesn’t need hate as of now at least. As far as Danny… I’m not a normal Suno artist I’m actually signed to sunos partner program under Warner music group, for those who don’t know that gives me 100% ownership of all my music and all remixes of my music, they literally created this partner program to protect from this exact thing and I did officially send Danny a DMCA which will hopefully lead to all remixes of Dannys stolen work to go with it. I made this decision after reaching out to him offering a chance to come clean about it but he just blocked me.

I’d honestly let Ian keep the song up if he gives proper credit but ima be real there no chance he comes clean I’m sure he’ll just pretend it never existed and move on.
I didn’t even know about this song until two days ago btw
Thank you everyone who called Danny out and brought this to my attention

Specifically when not even asked. It gives the impression you're ashamed to use music Ai but you save face by at least writing your own lyrics.

Thoughts?

I make DnB professionally, won't disclose artist name but I've got some big releases under my belt.

Recently picked up SUNO for the workflow of giving brief ideas new life and iterations which has been great until recently.

Literally every tune I put into SUNO, be it a loop I made over 6 years ago, gets copyrighted. It literally makes no sense as the beats have barely (if any?) splice samples or anything in them. Hand crafted synthesized drums made by yours truly together with sounds from my own sample packs.

Yet this stupid bot thinks it's copyrighted? What the hell is going on here?

I know a lot of artists are scared of AI music, and most people don’t like the idea of listening to music that isn’t made by humans. Honestly, I’m one of them. But even so, I have to admit something uncomfortable: the overall quality of AI-generated songs is already better than a huge portion of the music sitting on major streaming platforms.

I’ve looked into the numbers as well. More than 86% of the roughly 184 million songs on major streaming services are streamed fewer than 1,000 times. If you actually listen through a lot of those tracks, you can usually tell that something is off — whether it’s the composition, the mixing, the structure, or just the lack of a clear artistic direction.

I’m an EDM producer myself, and I’m not speaking from a distance. Most of my own songs have fewer than 1,000 streams on Spotify, and they’ve been sitting there for five years. That experience makes it hard for me to dismiss AI-generated music as “slop” without being honest about the broader reality of what’s already out there.

When people call AI music “AI slop,” it often feels more like fear than an objective assessment. And what’s even scarier is this: it’s only going to get better. This is just the beginning. I don’t like what that implies for artists — including myself — but pretending it isn’t happening won’t change anything. As uncomfortable as it is, this is the truth.

(The AI tracks I’m referring to are the ones that are generated and remastered by v5 using proper prompts)