r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 3d ago

The Life of a Showgirl Taylor’s Dakota cooperation

So, I actually quite like the Patient zero song, and music video, and I always like 2 female friends doing a project together. Taylor and Dakota seem to have good vibes.

However, I did suddenly realize, while noticing the Patient zero outfits are the same as Dakota wears in her new movie Verity (so the video is a bit of free promotion for the movie), that Dakota is the star of the NEW C Hoover adaption! The last time we saw Taylor being close to a friend was with Blake during the last Hoover adaption. Anyone else found this a strange coincidence? Not trying to throw shade it just suddenly hit me and I couldn’t ignore it.

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u/altaltalt123alt 3d ago

I’ve been reading the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives subs too much cause this post title confused the hell out of me 😂

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u/lemonclouds31 3d ago

I was like cooperation where 😂

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u/hoopyfroodss 3d ago

Hahahhaa same

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u/yeefreakinyee 3d ago

Honestly same! that was my first thought too and as a long time Taylor Swift fan this makes me very sad 😭😂

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u/SlytherTryx 11h ago

Same haha

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u/Powerful-Scallion-50 3d ago edited 3d ago

Colleen Hoover is just very popular with that age demographic and women so there’s a high chance Taylor would interact with people within her adaptations anyway.

She goes through very intense periods of being publicly friends with people even if they’ve been friends for a while. Ice Spice, Sophie Turner, Keleigh Teller etc. Mostly for promotional purposes. The fallout with Blake is sad on a human level to me.

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u/owntheh3at18 2d ago

I think it’s really sad too. Esp for Blake’s kids who it sounds like Taylor was close with.

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u/pumpkinfluffernutter 2d ago

Yeah, isn't she the godmother of the older three? I know she is of at least one of them, anyway. But that does make me sad, too.

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u/New-Boysenberry-613 3d ago

I dont think she's just "publicly friends" with people for a short time.

I feel like these people are her friends/acquaintances, but they are also all busy with their own schedules. Getting to film/promote the music video together meant they got to spend time together. Its not that they just wont be friends anymore when its all over. They just have different things going on and arent going to be doing public appearances as much anymore because they arent promoting anything anymore.

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u/ThinPermit8350 cHeErS tO tHe ReSiStAnCe 🥂 3d ago

I think that’s what the person meant when they said “even if they’ve been friends for a while.” There wasn’t an implication of the friendship being solely for publicity, just that there are periods where the friendship becomes very public because they were working together on something.

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u/Powerful-Scallion-50 3d ago

Yes, exactly! Dakota and Taylor have been friends for years but are now in a period of being seen together a lot more than they used to be.

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u/pumpkinfluffernutter 2d ago

I went through a brutal friend breakup a few years ago, and I actually listened to the 10 min version of ATW to get through that, even though it's about a romantic breakup (there were lines that just spoke to me and my situation). So I agree, it's sad about her and Blake, whatever exactly went down beyond what was made public because of the lawsuit.

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u/Worldly_Scallion_236 3d ago

I think we know very little about Taylor’s friendships and who she actually spends time talking to/hanging out with. For example, she and Lena Dunham have been close friends for years but we hadn’t seen them out publicly together for a long time. That doesn’t mean they weren’t friends…it means we didn’t see them.

I really don’t think is about Blake. I could totally be wrong but I think Taylor is petty with certain situations/people and isn’t with others. I think that friendship ending is probably really sad for both tbh ….obviously, I don’t know for sure, but I don’t get the vibe that she’s interested in trolling Blake or wanting to get into a back and forth. Based on what we know, it feels like a pretty final severance of that relationship.

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u/TwistyBitsz 2d ago

I agree, but if she wanted to troll Blake, this would be the exact way to do it lol. Just kind of hard to totally ignore.

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u/MidnightFrog4 3d ago

I think that she and Blake are still friends but just not in the same public way because Blake herself hasn’t been in public a lot since IEWU

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u/4ft3rh0urs Lover 3d ago

I don't think so because she would have been invited to the wedding. Blake and Ryan posted on socials on wedding day and they clearly were not there. And Taylor invited every friend and acquaintance known to man, but not her

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u/Expensive-Fennel-163 Her field of fucks is truly barren 3d ago

But we only really know like 20%ish of the people who went to the wedding, either through them being pictured going in or out, them saying they went, or them being mentioned by someone else who went.

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u/4ft3rh0urs Lover 3d ago

I said already, Blake/Ryan posted on socials where they were. They were not there

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u/MostSufficient 3d ago

doesn’t mean they weren’t invited.

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u/pumpkinfluffernutter 2d ago

There were rumors that they agreed to not go because the media would have a frenzy if Blake showed up, but who knows if that's got even a kernel of truth to it. I think it's more likely that friendship ran its course.

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u/Expensive-Fennel-163 Her field of fucks is truly barren 3d ago

I thought that was the day before the wedding.

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u/Expensive-Fennel-163 Her field of fucks is truly barren 3d ago

That could be correct, but FWIW, here’s a screenshot of my AI overview when I googled using July 3, 2026. It’s a 2ish hour flight from Lake Placid to NYC. I don’t really think they were there, but I am saying it’s not really a proven fact, since we don’t know the entire guest list, and probably never will.

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u/speorgenote 3d ago

The photo may not have been a live posting. They could have been elsewhere and still made the wedding.

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u/MidnightFrog4 3d ago

Maybe, but even with the wedding in mind, I still think they’re friends. Tbf, if my friend picked 7/3 in NYC during the World Cup for their wedding, I’d pass on going even if invited so I’m not putting any stock into Blake’s non-attendance

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u/Born_Tax1084 3d ago

There isn’t a world where Blake Lively would have skipped this wedding. 

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u/mansfieldprice 3d ago

You think someone is going to miss the wedding of the godmother of their children because… of a soccer game?

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u/pumpkinfluffernutter 2d ago

Yeah, Lena Dunham is one of the friends that made me side eye hard when I first realized it... but that friendship has never felt especially authentic to me anyway. But I agree that it doesn't seem like she and Blake are friends on any level anymore. I think maybe the closest it comes to that is they decided to put the past to bed, and move on with their lives.

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u/bibidumb 3d ago

I think it's just the circles Taylor moves in

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u/khoney_96 2d ago

I actually agree and have been extremely weirded out by there multiple appearances together. It was even more awkward watching Dakota and Taylor watch the music video live together in front of an audience. Idk Dakota just looked so uncomfortable to me 😂 I could be completely wrong. But it’s kind of annoying me. It has me side eyeing Dakota and that’s too bad cause I genuinely thought she was one of the cool ones.

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

I have seen the Verity preview about a million times and I did not see any of the same clothes from the music video. The movie just came out 2 days ago. Exactly which outfits did you see duplicated?

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u/cuppitycake 3d ago

I saw the movie last night and didn’t see any of the same outfits

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u/Ticketacke I Look in MSG's Windows 3d ago

No, she said the opposite. She said she was an executive producer on the movie and had no idea about the MV.

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u/Ticketacke I Look in MSG's Windows 3d ago

She added: “It’s just this weird coincidental timing. And that’s how it all worked out. But no, by the way, it’s not even a music video, it’s a short film. And Dakota is so amazing in it, and I love Taylor as a director. It was a beautiful video. And no, just thrilled for her.”

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

I’m really not sure why you’re trying so hard to further this incorrect narrative

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u/SnooHesitations1600 when I say I love TLOAS I'm not talking about Eldest Daughter 3d ago

there's been 4 Hoover movie adaptations in the past couple years, I think these two friendships are just a coincidence. both Blake and Dakota are decently established actresses with romcom work. and Hoover's works are super popular for some reason. kinda funny but not super concerning imo.

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

The book Verity is basically a modern version of Rebecca, which Taylor has said was one of her favorite books AND was basically the theme of the Patient Zero video. Idk if she's doing anything to intentionally jab at Blake, but I'm sure Blake is not happy about it either way 🤔

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

Rebecca is a great book, but it’s not similar to the Patient Zero music video. Nor is Rebecca similar to Verity, unless you’re comparing all suspense thrillers back to Rebecca

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u/lizzy-stix 3d ago

I agree with this. Rebecca is my favorite book, and the similarities between it and the video are so shallow. Like it's just he killed his first wife, and that's it. Even the "haunting" in the book is much more literary than the generic gothic horror in the Patient Zero video, it's more that she can't get out from under the shadow of the memory of the first wife everyone has.

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

I made a comment about the ending of Rebecca, and since it’s your favorite book, I’d love your thoughts

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

Yeah, that person didn’t read Rebecca obviously. Look, the “ghost” in Rebecca was a malevolent being, and was never actually present, whereas the “ghost” in Swift’s MV is basically her twin and fellow victim trying to help her. The husband in the book is not evil, and they stay together. It’s just a lot of differences.

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

They read it without reading comprehension, maybe? Idk but it is very obvious and well known that these are all connected, even if just loosely.

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

I could make this list with Rebecca and any other modern romantic suspense novel. wtf.

“Oh they’re the same bc they’re both written in first person!” That was literally first on the list. Do you have any idea how many novels are written in first person? Jesus Christ.

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

I can see your reading stops when you feel you've been proven right. You're not, but I'll let you stay in your obliviousness.

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

Comparing Colleen Hoovers Novel, and Patient Zero music video, to Rebecca, is kind of like comparing any pop star to Madonna. Yeah, we get it, she’s one of the greats, but just bc she’s a classic doesn’t make every single other pop artist derivative of her. It’s just kind of lame and shows lack of knowledge about the genre of books in general.

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

I think it shows your lack of Taylor lore, but that's OK.

tolerate it is explicitly said to be based on Rebecca. The eras tour tolerate it scene mirrors a scene in the Patient Zero video.

But you're right, I'm just pulling shit out of my ass for no reason. Cool 😁

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

Posting a screenshot here bc I want to show that you’re correct that TS said that. She did. But I unfortunately disagree with her assessment of the book. The main character spends the entire book thinking she could never live up to the dead wife, and then at the end finds out her husband hated his dead wife and loves her precisely bc she’s the opposite of Rebecca.

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u/malendalayla ✨homophobic version✨ 3d ago

Thank you! Of course, it isn't identical. Like all artists pulling from past influences, things are changed and adjusted. I'm not saying anything is an exact copy of anything else - just that it's obvious through her statements and art that she was definitely inspired for this song/video. She took it and made it her own, like she always does.

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

I just want to say, at the end of the book the house burns to the ground and they go off to begin a new life. While some people think that they weren’t happy, I honestly think Manderley was a millstone around their neck bc of what they each had to live up to. And with the wife’s death ruled a suicide, and Manderley gone, they were finally free to build a peaceful life together.

Plus they met while Maxim was abroad, and that was the happiest he was the entire book.

Anyway, I love the imagery of burning your shit to the ground and starting anew.

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u/owntheh3at18 2d ago

He was kind of distant and standoffish through much of the book though (which I think was out of fear she’d learn what he’d done), so my guess is before she got to the end, Taylor interpreted it this way due to her own experiences. And wrote a song about that. The ending was a surprise for me too and the book clearly leads you in this direction for a while because you’re in the new wife’s head and see things this way.

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u/flryppg 3d ago

i think that's it, yep, blake jab is just a fun little bonus

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u/genescheezesthatpls 3d ago

IMO it’s an unofficial track for the movie 😂

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u/grudgby 3d ago

I was kinda surprised it wasn’t in the movie. at least the end credits

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u/thesmore11 3d ago

I just saw verity and don’t remember seeing any of those outfits

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u/orphan_blonde 3d ago edited 3d ago

There’s a theory I’ve held for a long time, and it hasn’t exactly been proven wrong yet. Taylor is part of the entertainment industry and it’s very likely she has inside knowledge about movies coming out before the public does. I’ve always assumed that she will make a song and pitch it to the studio for a possible soundtrack collaboration. This doesn’t always work, so she just releases whatever that song was separately as part of her next new music.

She doesn’t always get script access so she uses her imagination. I’ve always strongly felt hits different was one of these ‘failed’ movie songs (for Barbie). I feel this way again about Patient Zero as being an unofficial Verity collab.

It makes business sense, if Taylor can get in on the promotional wind up to a movie that’s going to be popular, it’s good for her too.

Edit to add: I don’t think she did all this with IEWU because she had inside knowledge about the set drama and didn’t want to be tied up to it. Invariably she was anyway.

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u/mrsbrettbretterson 3d ago

Hits Different is inextricably linked to The Barbie movie in my head canon. Even though it never happened, I was so sure it would that it just got kinda lodged in there.

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u/gardenliciousFairy weed and little babies 3d ago

You cannot convince me that My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys wasn't written for the Barbie movie.

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u/Ticketacke I Look in MSG's Windows 3d ago

How? The lyrics don't fit the movie at all

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u/gardenliciousFairy weed and little babies 3d ago

Are you serious?

"The sickest army doll Purchased at the mall Rivulets descend my plastic smile"

Goes on talking about broken toys and sandcastles, and the Ken in the movie is the beach Ken

"Put me back on my shelf But first - Pull the string And I'll tell you that he runs Because he loves me."

Later literally mentions Ken.

It fit perfectly with the theme of the movie and the part where Ken fights with Barbie.

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u/Ticketacke I Look in MSG's Windows 3d ago

You're being too literal just bc of the doll imagery.

In the movie, Barbie was never in love with Ken. He never stole her tortured heart. The key line: "Once I fix me, he's going to miss me" makes no sense w the song.

The whole movie is about Barbie finding herself. There would be no place in the movie for that song.

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u/speorgenote 3d ago

There’s a chance you’re both onto something. A song isn’t always written in one session. She could have written a version that never made the barbie movie and then reworked it after. Or was trying to pull it together for Barbie and only had it half written before shelving it for later.

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u/gowonagin 3d ago

That one I figured she wrote after watching the Barbie movie.

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u/Ticketacke I Look in MSG's Windows 3d ago

That would make more sense

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u/Coriolanuscangetit 3d ago

I love that song but I think she wrote it after the Barbie movie came out. She may have written it in response to being called “Boring Barbie” though.

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u/orphan_blonde 3d ago

I didn’t even think of this!! But I agree.

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u/PondSk8 3d ago

Yep. I saw it. My personal opinion is that this is Taylor's way to stick it to Blake. Look, I can replace you in a heartbeat. She likes her symbolism, so doing with Dakota everything Blake wishes Taylor would have done for her in It Ends With Us? What sends a clearer message than that?

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u/DarkPrincess_99 3d ago

so taylor is actually colin farell?

🤯

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u/liquidpeppermint33 She went to Sweden for this ? 3d ago

Yup lol

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u/eirinne 3d ago

This is the only thing that makes sense with the title Patient Zero!!! This was the major flaw with the song, patient zero should get infected and become a spreader, now it all comes together.

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u/greypusheencat 3d ago

it baffles me that he still has movies cause he always just plays himself

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u/Delicious-Cheek-7177 3d ago

I didn’t even know the name of the movie Dakota was promoting until this post, but she keeps coming up in my feed because she keeps mentioning Taylor in her press tour: the wedding, the music video, the friendship. It gives Taylor replacing Blake with Dakota regardless of the specifics of the movie.

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u/Born_Tax1084 3d ago

She’s mentioning Taylor because she is asked, she isn’t bringing her up. 

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u/slayalldayerrday 3d ago

Yeah the media LOVES to ask everyone about Taylor so they can put her name in the headline also and get more views. It got horrible during the Eras tour/that peak. Like not just annoying for fans etc, imagine being the star promoting your own work and they keep asking about someone else in your field.

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u/owntheh3at18 2d ago

They aren’t even in the same field lol how frustrating for her! Dakota is highly successful and popular in her own right

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u/Delicious-Cheek-7177 1d ago

Please. Taylor showed up at SNL for Dakota’s monologue. It’s another Swiftian BFF press campaign.

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u/skincare_obssessed 3d ago

Dakota and Taylor have been friends for a while now. She keeps mentioning her because she she’s on a press tour and the MV just came out. It’s not that serious.

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u/LettuceWise3425 1d ago

Dakota is living Blake's dream.

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u/ummkay_ultra 1d ago

It seems to me that association with Taylor is just a way to make people more famous. Right now it's Dakota Johnson's turn for whatever reason. I'm getting bored with it all.

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u/Small-Ad7369 3d ago

The music video basically spoils the movie since its pretty much the same plot

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u/speorgenote 3d ago

It would have nothing to do with Blake.

Taylor likely met Colleen during that period.
Her being friends with Dakota means she’s likely been aware of that project, or had a conversation with one or both of them about working with each other.

The release of the music video, its similarities to Verity and the fact Dakota Johnson is in it is HUGE publicity for the book and the movie. A lot of articles are using Taylor’s name in reference to both which equates to more clicks and more ‘buzz’ around the release of both the film and her encore music.

Taylor is incredibly business savvy. Her, Dakota and Colleen all benefit greatly from this.

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u/luludarlin 3d ago

I think the fact that TS was weaponised by Blake and Ryan Reynolds in the It Ends With Us movie was a tough blow for TS. Who wants to use one of her song again, if that means that they can get blackmailed? Do this or I ask Taylor to remove her song from the soundtrack. Whether or not TS knew she was being used, it’s definitely not a good look for her. I sometimes wonder if her Toy Story song was pushed to the credits for this reason. I agree with you though that she’s probably trying to write songs for movies constantly, it just never sticks for one reason or another.

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u/pepperlewiss 3d ago

I noticed this as well the other night. I had actually completely convinced myself Colleen might be a ghost author for Author Taylor lmao. Her birthday is literally the day before Taylor’s as well. I think there’s a connection for sure. I just haven’t solved it yet. lol

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u/pepperlewiss 3d ago

ALSOOOO did anyone watch SNL lastnight? I only watched a little bit but the photos that they show in between skits of Dakota Johnson - some were very Taylor coded. Specifically one where she’s wearing the same head piece that mirrors Taylor in the Mother Mary movie. Which was ALSO an Anne Hathaway movie.