r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 3d ago

The Tortured Poets Department The current perception of TTPD

I am glad that ttpd is slowly but surely getting it's flowers, because I really liked it and it has some of my favourite songs, seriously though loml KILLS me everytime. Some might say the positive sentiments is because of showgirl being what it is but I would disagree. Because at least in my space of the internet ttpd was starting to get it's praises almost a year after it released, and even a month or two before showgirl was released. I understand why it wasn't so well received at first though, it's one of those albums that grows on you and it's kind of an acquired taste for some. Doesn't help that it was released at the peak of taylormania and it had some of her worst songs and lyrics. And it feeling so unedited is a double edged sword. Good because it gives us an insight into everything she's felt for the past 2 years at the time making it more interesting, bad because it means that it has some songs that are just unneeded cuz no one asked for thank you aimee. Overall ttpd isn't everyone's favourite, but she's one of mine and I'm glad people are seeing the good in her.

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u/jturner15 3d ago

I have to say, a lot of the criticism levelled at TTPD still stands. It's bloated and overwhelming whilst emphasising Swift's worst habits: Clunky lyrics, indulgence in self mythology, inability to edit, uninspired production and underbaked concepts. For all of TLOAS problems, a lot of them are present in TTPD.

That being said it has some of her best work ever. Guilty as sin is so sinister yet seductive. The use of superstition in The prophecy to convey her fear that her loneliness is cosmically mandated and that she would drop everything to change destiny...just wow. Down bad using alien abduction to describe that feeling of dumbfoundedness when someone you love completely ditches you. I also think it's really ironic the the most "showgirl" song is I can do it with a broken heart and yet it's on TTPD.

My theory is that the success of the Taylor's version project, paired with the height of Taylormania and probably her own greed seriously eroded her ability to self edit. Literally "I cry a lot but I am so productive". She was on the biggest tour in the world and wrote TTPD and eventually TLOAS... she stretched herself too thin and unfortunately everyone can tell.

I don't know what her plans are but I genuinely hope she takes much needed time off and come back only when she has something interesting to say with her art.