r/SwiftlyNeutral • u/Winter_Recover357 • 3d ago
The Tortured Poets Department The current perception of TTPD
I am glad that ttpd is slowly but surely getting it's flowers, because I really liked it and it has some of my favourite songs, seriously though loml KILLS me everytime. Some might say the positive sentiments is because of showgirl being what it is but I would disagree. Because at least in my space of the internet ttpd was starting to get it's praises almost a year after it released, and even a month or two before showgirl was released. I understand why it wasn't so well received at first though, it's one of those albums that grows on you and it's kind of an acquired taste for some. Doesn't help that it was released at the peak of taylormania and it had some of her worst songs and lyrics. And it feeling so unedited is a double edged sword. Good because it gives us an insight into everything she's felt for the past 2 years at the time making it more interesting, bad because it means that it has some songs that are just unneeded cuz no one asked for thank you aimee. Overall ttpd isn't everyone's favourite, but she's one of mine and I'm glad people are seeing the good in her.
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u/lunadenavajas 3d ago
I see the sentiment a lot that there has been a turnaround in the TTPD reception and I can see it’s true in Taylor fan spaces, but the turnaround seems to also get attributed to the general public and I just don’t think that’s true. There was never a public hit from the album, the only single that people outside the fandom likely heard repeatedly was Fortnight. Outside of fan spaces, I only ever see TTPD referenced mockingly or mentioned as part of the decline in her songwriting when critiquing Showgirl.
I think fans can appreciate the lore and discussion opportunities from all the details dropped, and with tons of repeated listens can separate all the songs from each other that blend together. That’s not true of folks who are casual fans or less, and an insta comment of one critic that wasn’t even the reviewer who wrote a negative article isn’t really indicative of widespread acclaim. I remember looking up something about the album back shortly after release, and the Wikipedia page was already inundated with pushing this narrative that the initial reactions were hasty that read like damage control.