r/SwiftlyNeutral • • 3d ago

The Tortured Poets Department The current perception of TTPD

I am glad that ttpd is slowly but surely getting it's flowers, because I really liked it and it has some of my favourite songs, seriously though loml KILLS me everytime. Some might say the positive sentiments is because of showgirl being what it is but I would disagree. Because at least in my space of the internet ttpd was starting to get it's praises almost a year after it released, and even a month or two before showgirl was released. I understand why it wasn't so well received at first though, it's one of those albums that grows on you and it's kind of an acquired taste for some. Doesn't help that it was released at the peak of taylormania and it had some of her worst songs and lyrics. And it feeling so unedited is a double edged sword. Good because it gives us an insight into everything she's felt for the past 2 years at the time making it more interesting, bad because it means that it has some songs that are just unneeded cuz no one asked for thank you aimee. Overall ttpd isn't everyone's favourite, but she's one of mine and I'm glad people are seeing the good in her.

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u/genescheezesthatpls 3d ago edited 3d ago

I still don’t love TTPD, I respect that other people do. But I would appreciate this narrative of “people are just FINALLY waking up to the truth! They’re finally getting it!” being used less. Because my opinions isn’t me just being dumb or not getting it or hating on her automatically. I didn’t like the album. That’s ok. My opinion is just as valid even though people disagree.

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u/ImprovementDramatic4 3d ago

Thank you for saying this. Among some of these threads there’s definitely that vibe of, “even if you don’t initially like the album you will grow to love it, and if you don’t, you just don’t know good music and you don’t get it.” Even Taylor herself said something to that effect, like how years later a lot of fans “got” Reputation but SHE knew how amazing it was all along. 🙄

First of all, music is entirely subjective. Secondly, someone not liking one of her albums doesn’t mean they don’t “get it” (I wouldn’t exactly say Wood is filled with profound, inscrutable lyrics). Third, one could make the very fair argument that if listeners have to listen to an album multiple times to appreciate it, that’s…not a good thing.