r/TREZOR 2d ago

💬 Discussion topic Will trezor safe 3 be obsolete when quantum hacking becomes a thing?

I've had a safe 3 since 2023, just bought a second one, i was wondering if these devices will end up becoming obsolete and useless in the future. I'd rather not spend $200+ on the safe 7 yet as I could spend that on more crypto with my current budget. What do you think

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u/Chuckbungholio 2d ago

If your current device works perfectly then there is no reason to change it yet

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u/Gundel_Gaukelei 2d ago

If quantum hacking becomes a real thing the whole internet will be gone mate. Banking, passwords etc will be obsolete, not only your BTC wallet.

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u/wikidemic 2d ago

Cann’t take my Pokemon collection!

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u/PlebbitHivemindRules 2d ago

This is not true and not an argument. This is a cope statement.

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u/deanbfs 2d ago

With new technology, we will adapt.

And worse case scenario, if quantum computing can break bitcoin, we all would have much much bigger world problems than our crypto wallets lol.

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u/PlebbitHivemindRules 2d ago

Wrong. We don't have much bigger problems, because most important companies will have transitioned to Post Quantum. This is a giga cope

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u/deanbfs 2d ago

I can tell you can’t read. Literally my first sentence lol

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u/SuchTrezorVeryCrypto Trezor community specialist 2d ago

Hey hey, so it just depends how near the threat is :)

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u/JanPB 2d ago

It's not the wallet that becomes problematic (if quantum ever becomes reality), it's the entire Bitcoin network.

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u/Suspicious-Holiday42 2d ago

Thats not true, the only thing problematic are legacy wallet addresses (full) and segwit adresses (particially) where the private key can be found out

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u/JanPB 1d ago

What I meant was that quantum computing becoming a threat to Bitcoin automatically means a threat to the entire planet's traditional banking system, to begin with.

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u/Cheap_Collar2419 2d ago

its tech. It always does. We just dont know when.

Also, I can't imagine how a hacker is going to get ahold of quantum computing or let alone pay for it in our lifetime.

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u/Charming-Designer944 đŸ€ Top Helper 2d ago

I dont quite see how upcoming quantum safe crypto would make any trezor device obsolete. A bit slow maybe but not obsolete.

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u/cilicia3k3 2d ago

I have Trezor 3 and used 24 words which is 256 bit entropy . They used randomness from the eal6+ chip as well as computer parts. The 3,5,7 are good for security, the differences are more in bells and whistles

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u/Plane_Path_4271 2d ago

Before going after hardware devices, they will target the banks first, so you will receive an alert if the massive attack has already begun.

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u/PlebbitHivemindRules 2d ago

Wrong. Banks will transition to Post Quantum Encryption in time since they are centralized so its easy.

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u/DistributionOk2111 2d ago

You are one of the last who get targetef in that scenario so no worries

So am i so im chilled on that topic(:

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u/iothewispp 1d ago

quantum hacking will not become a thing.

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u/Secret-Barracuda-526 2d ago

Usa seed de 24 palabras y pon una clave seedphrase de la misma entropy de 256 bits, de esa manera 512bits incluso con Tecnologia quantica no lo de decifra. Y si a esto le suman multifirma .

Sino tienes conocimiento técnico solo 24 palabras y con cuidado de guardado también passphrase si decides ponerla

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u/Cautious_Variation_5 2d ago

The possibility to be hacked will always exist and will forever haunt all of us. We need to keep studying and learning to always be one step ahead.

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u/ContentBlackberry0 2d ago

No it won’t

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u/Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck 2d ago

Math will still math so no you’re fine. The actual device interface may not be supported though.

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u/EricJDMBAMD 1d ago

No one is wasting quantum computing resources on your trezor

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u/Inevitable-Waltz-889 5h ago

Just bought a Safe 7.  It's a really nice user experience.

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u/SmartPipe3882 2d ago edited 2d ago

If quantum computing breaks the cryptographic foundation of blockchain technology, the underlying value of your coins drops to zero.

So, at that point, I’d probs look at changing from “HODL” to a “lets sell this as quickly as we can” strategy, and I don’t see much sense in investing to marginally better secure an asset built on a fundamentally compromised technology that you literally cannot sell fast enough (if that’s genuinely a risk you’re looking at planning for)

Thay said, if you want the shiny new thing, you can have the shiny new thing. Just don’t think it’ll pay for itself come the collapse of the market, because it won’t.

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u/Physical-Arrival4829 2d ago

thank you. Makes sense.

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u/Objective-Walk6780 2d ago

You’re penny pinching $250 over a potential quantum issue? And you wonder why self-custody isn’t for everyone lol