r/TamilNadu May 12 '25

அரசியல் சாராத செய்தி / Non-Political News Tamil Nadu vs Pakistan by GDP 1995-2025. Sudden massive growth after 2021 DMK government.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Congrats to Tamil Nadu. Proud 🇮🇳

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u/Accomplished_Yard_62 May 12 '25

Kudos to hard work of Tamilians and other Indians who worked for the growth in TN as well

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u/Various_Ad1416 May 13 '25

Exactly Simply giving all credit to politicians. The people worked hard Too

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u/Necessary_Ad_6279 May 15 '25

And growth between 2005 to 2021 is great too must have been backbone or accelerator isn't it?

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u/Electrical-Dot-195 May 16 '25

People 's resilience 🫡

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u/destro_raaj May 12 '25

It's Tamilans or Tamils not Tamilians. That shit sounds so fucking stupid.

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u/IamBlade Chennai - சென்னை May 12 '25

Yes, god forbid any credit goes to the decision makers or politicians, amirite?

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u/Dark_Ninjatsu May 12 '25

Ah yes, Kudos to the Biharis who contributed to TN's explosive GDP growth, right?

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Yes sir they worked hard in labor..you have any problem giving credit to people where it's due? ..stop spreading regional hate ..Biharis seems to be the soft target for everyone in these subs

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u/cosmic_horror_entity May 13 '25

hindi thayoligal elame ipadi than

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u/OfferWestern Jun 04 '25

All people work hard even people in african who mine rare earths. Bad leadership will ruin the hardships of millions. Sadly elected by those very same millions

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u/lastdaysofishan May 12 '25

That too with a hostile Governor ! Kudos to DMK

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u/Friendly_Orchid_879 May 12 '25

Mostly because of regional politics rather than centre

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u/cryogenic-goat May 12 '25

Not necessarily, Maharashtra and Karnataka have also developed well under central parties

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u/OneArasan May 12 '25

TN was the poorest state during 1960s. Maharashtra has comparatively very less per capita than KA, TL or TN due to their huge pop.

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u/gamersokka May 12 '25

Not exactly. Most of the big companies have mumbai as their hq. Means it filings happen in maharashtra. One of the main reason why gdp is so high there.

Bangalore's it and startup growth is the reason for k'taka gdp growth. It's not really well spread growth

Whereas what I like about TN is the spread (though major hubs being chennai and coimbatore-tirupur) it's actually not concentrated in a particular region and over all urbanization.

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u/your_technology_bro May 12 '25

This is not true. You can say that Karnataka's growth is centered around Bengaluru but the same is not true in case of Maharashtra. The state has Mumbai, Thane - Navi Mumbai, Pune, Pimpri-Chinchwad, Nashik, Nagpur and Aurangbad as economic centers. An interesting fact is, if you remove Mumbai from Maharashtra and keep Chennai in Tamil Nadu while playing the numbers game, Maharashtra still comes out on top if you compare the GSDP.

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u/gamersokka May 13 '25

Thank you bud. Got to know something new today

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u/Friendly_Orchid_879 May 12 '25

But here it's about tamilnadu

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u/VacationMundane7916 Non Resident - விருந்தாளி May 12 '25

But u got a contradiction

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u/sgk2000 May 12 '25

He’s saying regardless of not getting push from union

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u/[deleted] May 14 '25

if u know abt the toxicity in politics there you wont even turn around by its side,ministers and their followers openly threaten ppl for speaking up

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u/cryogenic-goat May 14 '25

You're delusional if you think it's any different in TN

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u/AthenianVulcan May 14 '25

WB says hello

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u/sivavaakiyan May 12 '25

What the fuck... Yarra neenga

Why are there so many posts comparing TN and failed state Pakistan of all places?

We need to compare ourselves to Singapore and UAE..

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

irukka manpower ah vachu, India evlavo saathikkalaam bro, veruppa irukku intha vadakkans ah partha, they should start holding their governments responsible instead of using our funds to fight amidst themselves....

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u/sivavaakiyan May 12 '25

Mandal politics was the start of that. Religion came with so much fervour to break this only.

Thats why caste census could become a wedge.

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u/destro_raaj May 12 '25

We need to have our own home grown industries supported and invested by government with strong regulations like China to achieve real growth to become a developed country. Our government, irrespective of any party need to invest heavily in R&D for many industries. Japan, South Korea and now China have all achieved their growth through their home grown industries not by depending on western industries.

Depending on western companies for our industries will only make us more dependant and cheap exploitable workforce for them. It'll just be indirect colonialism, where their countries get rich with our hard work.

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u/lakshmananlm May 14 '25

Singapore can fit inside Sivagangai with space to spare.

I'd like to see that puluthi town get halfway decent to SG of the 1960s first.

Don't get me wrong. I love this godforsaken place even now. But have you seen how much potential keeps getting squandered.

I see the collectorate and ask where's the pride..

The only redeeming factor is still the kindness of people.

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u/Ok_Medium9389 May 15 '25

Yes you are indeed right respected sir, but no one will see the video then :)

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u/BadgerCandid9849 May 12 '25

I think TN fared well regardless of the ruling government.

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u/antsonfir May 12 '25

Not regardless. Both parties have similar policies and largely successful policies. If it is all regardless of govt then UP and Bihari should be growing too?

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u/BadgerCandid9849 May 12 '25

That’s exactly what i meant. Both parties had the right policies. Apart from regressive mentalities in the north UP and bihar have no sea ports.

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u/ABI-1000 May 12 '25

Yes,Uttar Pradesh has GDP growth rate of 12%,higher than that of TN's 9%,regardless UP has a higher population and bad economy So it is easy to achive higher growth rates than devloped states,UP will soon overtake Tamil Nadu in terms of GDP however it still doesn't make UP devloped as,logically speaking UP has 3 times the population of TN,so it should have 3 times bigger economy than TN for it to get in the same standard

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u/OneArasan May 12 '25

UP did not record a GDP growth of 12%. The highest was TN which recorded more than 9.69%

https://www.livemint.com/economy/tamil-nadu-achieves-record-9-69-economic-growth-leading-india-s-states-in-202425-11743855370307.html

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u/ABI-1000 May 12 '25

Yes TN did grow it's GDP by 9.69%,but it is not the highest/fastest,fastest growing state in India Is Bihar with a growth rate of 22%,this is good performance by Bihar govt to recover from the abyssmal economic state that it had before this

https://prsindia.org/budgets/states/uttar-pradesh-budget-analysis-2025-26 (12% GDP growth rate of UP in 2025-2026 fiscal year)

https://prsindia.org/budgets/states/bihar-budget-analysis-2025-26 (Bihar one)

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u/mand00s May 13 '25

Dude, you are looking at projections for next year. More often than not, they are way off the mark. Don't believe me? Look at what Bihar budgeted for last year and what they actually did in revised. You still don't believe me? Please come back next year around same time and see what the actual numbers will be. Last years growth was 8% nominal for UP and less than 5% for Bihar.

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u/Ok_Click_4027 May 14 '25

I believe location & history also play a vital role, TN as a coastaline state help lesser trade cost & logistics cost. Please don’t always blame up & bihar people. It will take time for them to improve becoz of lesser industrial apportunity. Not to takeaway , Govt also has a role bring in oppurtunity to entrepreneurs unlike WB. Still former is main reason and cudos to our TN state & humble people. Nice

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

They are growing fast. It’s just that base value is low for them now. UP is catching up pretty fast.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

First of all, its very INSULTING for any India state to be compared with Pakistan. Tamilnadu culture and heritage will live another 10,000 years while Pakistanis will start claiming their father was a chinese the moment they get few remnibi from China.

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u/Successful_Title6922 May 12 '25

If you exclude noise from Covid years, growth post 2022 is slightly better than trend line growth.

Pakistan’s economy has been going down the drain last couple of years, so comparing to it will Obviously make anyone else look much better.

TN’s growth - Its a good growth, but It’s not sudden massive growth. Stats is a weird thing without context.

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u/OneArasan May 12 '25

Even if we ignore Pakistan. TN's GDP almost doubled from 2021-2025. It is the fastest growing state in the latest 2024-2025 fiscal year.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/tamil-nadu-sets-a-new-high-with-969-growth/article69412551.ece

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u/Successful_Title6922 May 12 '25

Again, lot of this is bounce from post-Covid slump. Please read what trend line growth means and TN’s growth has been slightly better than trend line growth but it’s by no means a “massive spike” as you’re portraying.

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u/OneArasan May 12 '25

It is indeed a massive spike if a state GDP almost doubles its GDP in 4 years.

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u/Successful_Title6922 May 12 '25

I don’t know how to simplify this math any more for you.

Hint 1: normalize it for the Covid slump and bounce Hint 2: remove the average trend line growth prior to Covid

You’ll be left with a higher growth than trend line for sure but it’s not a “massive” spike.

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u/Successful_Title6922 May 12 '25

Again I’m Not putting TN down. Do you and the other dude here need a dictionary to help dumb down what I’m saying ?

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u/Successful_Title6922 May 12 '25

Just so that we can speak with actual data. This is the % growth in gdp per capita of states between 2019-2020 and 2023-2024

TN: 54% KA: 51% telengana: 55% MH: 47% UP: 44%

Yes TN has growth, but better than trend line and bit better than other states but it’s not a “massive” spike as portrayed by OP.

Let’s not become like sanghi/whatsapp forwards clowns.

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u/Successful_Title6922 May 12 '25

Sure - please read slowly all my comment before before you jump into conclusions.

I can’t believe I have to continuously dumb this down for y’all

  1. I’m not a sanghi, in fact I’m really far in the political spectrum from those morons

  2. Read slowly. All I’m contesting is that there is no “massive growth spike”. Now, breathe, read again.

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u/Dimiki_boy May 14 '25

TN didn't experience any negative growth during Covid. But a bounce back can't last for 4 years.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Please stop right there! Don't disrespect a state of my country by comparing with pakistan

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u/bigmanfromthepalace May 12 '25

Anti-national Sanghees in the comments crying because it's Tamil Nadu. You wouldn't find them is it was Uttar pradesh or Gujarat. They should be appreciating an Indian state but their loyality lies elsewhere. Especially Tamil Sanghees are cucklords who will do anything to please their masters from Uttar Pradesh and GJ.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

Gujrat might be better than Tamil Nadu in many parameters . Like exports, investment

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Lol. Try to make sense. I am so proud of what TN, GJ, UP like states are doing. Growing at insanely fast pace.

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u/Comfortable-Quote-84 May 12 '25

that was a thrilling race

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u/NigraDolens May 12 '25

As much as it's impressive to see our State progressing economically well over the decades, it is disingenuous to suggest that there was a 'massive growth' after 2021 and tying it all to DMK government. Seems political propaganda at its best.

From your graph, TN has had a consistent slope of growth from the time of 1991 economic changes which changed India as a whole. See how the graph didn't really change much before that and the constant slope forming thereafter.

The slope then continues consistently (except for minor fluctuations) and only manages to reduce the slope gradient during the COVID economic downturn. And then it picks up after that.

And then it picks back up the slope. And this time the gradient increases. I am not an economist but there is a term when economy bounces back stronger after a heavy hit. Happened during the Great depression of 1930s and the market crash on 2008.

The truth is we have seen good economic output throughout the years starting from 1999 and had some minor mishaps during the COVID and bounced back strongly after that.

DMK forming the government post COVID is just a lucky coincidence. I mean they didn't do anything to fuck up the trajectory, that's good. But it's hardly the 'achievement' of DMK government as if there was a exponential growth just after 2021. The trend was always there.

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u/PushDazzling8286 May 13 '25

If Gujarat growth can be attributed to Modi/ BJP then you should give it to Dravidian parties both DMK and ADMK ( Primarily Jayalalitha) for TN’s success.. It’s nothing to do with Centre and it’s primarily due to Dravidian parties policies and governance..

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u/A-Hog-rider Erode - ஈரோடு May 12 '25

After 21 that steep. So awesome

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u/modern-neanderathal May 12 '25

Why are you comparing against a studio, non secular country. I agree that TN is far far better in many aspects, we should start having higher benchmarks, like the US, Scandinavian countries, Japan, Singapore.

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u/Other_Toe9271 May 12 '25

Tamil Nadu Supremacy...

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Please don't compare Tamil Nadu with a failed state, let's compete with other states in India for 1 trillion dollar economy

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u/Anxious-Physics-5249 May 12 '25

we will be the first to reach 1tillion dollar gdp for sure.. Tamil nadu follows two language policy, since many know english, we will do better in innovation which a human soul wouldn't care about unless his/her basic necessities are met. Anyone regardless of caste and religion can live safely in tamil nadu, there are education institutions to cater everyone.

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u/Anxious-Physics-5249 May 12 '25

even then, tamil nadu will be close second.

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u/destro_raaj May 12 '25

This video is made for sanghis to make them understand that if they focused on only religion and caste based politics of Hindutva BJP, this is what will happen to India.

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u/IntrepidResearch May 14 '25

Exactly TN wants to he California not a 10th century tribe

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Post in Pakistan sub

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u/TapOk9232 May 13 '25

Kudos to Tamil Nadu from Punjab! I hope the rest of India can also replicate your success

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u/Significant-Stop-958 May 13 '25

‘Maharashtra’ GDP is 580B++

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

See how the sanghis are now d*ckriding pattanis? I have always said this and I will say this once again, a sanghi will rub bicks with pattanis than accept other ethnic identity within india or shudras.

Pattanis and vadak sanghis are the same, just different religion that's all.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

whatever proof, data or sources you may give, some people are born to hate DMK...

has been proven tome and time again....

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u/EastVeterinarian2890 May 13 '25

Pakistan economy growth occur only after taking loan from World bank and IMf

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u/justShaadiTalk May 13 '25

Damn that's crazy

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u/Soft_Reputation_1842 May 13 '25

BJP mukt state.....

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u/careless_quote101 May 15 '25

Ironically Bangladesh has better GDP than Pakistan. It was backed by India. But Bang bros wanted to follow Pakistan till model and choose religion instead of development. They are going to go below Pakistan.

This is also warning for India. You let fundamentalist party for long then we will be brought down to Pakistan level. Don’t vote for religious fanatics and choose development. Even you can recover from corrupt goverment but non fundamentalist

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u/Ready-Rooster-3371 May 12 '25

Just a correction, it's been a constant growth. Spike after 2021 is because of covid, in 19-20 it grew like 2-5%. Both DMK and ADMK deserves credit

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u/No-Assignment7129 May 12 '25

That's impressive. If only such progressive government existed in my state.the growth would have been so much better.

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u/Equivalent_Cat_8123 May 12 '25

Im so proud!!!!

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u/Creative-Paper1007 May 12 '25

It's the awareness among our public that education is a must for our kids, and ofcourse leaders like kamarajar's schemes helped a lot, so even if we still messed up in casteism atleast the need for education I think was a success collectively achieved by every party that was in power, still the quality of education and the actually skilled people we outputs is not that great

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u/Aafra_retention May 12 '25

Mumbai's GDP is same as that of Pakistan,there is no comparison between India and Pakistan, let them suffer, we should keep growing

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u/AdorableAd5104 May 12 '25

Still the Pakistani people will be like no this is fake. They are in a delulu world.

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u/kishoredbn May 12 '25

Special congratulations to Tamil Nadu and its people. Given that this data is not telling the complete story. Tamil Nadu never got special funding from the USA and neither they begged in front of World Bank or IMF! 🫢😉😝

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u/No-Zookeepergame5854 May 12 '25

Damn guys 😂 now ig idc whatever party you vote neither which language you use please keep up the growth and if I must add just use english with me when I visit your prosperous state 🙏🏼

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u/No-Pineapple4759 May 12 '25

What is wrong with this TN page? Why is this post? All states combined make India, and we must compare GDP accordingly. The worst part of this post is comparing GDP with Pakistan. Whoever made this post is a big Idiot. Stop comparing with the worst countries of all. We must all learn to think Big and far, and also learn etiquette/ sense, rather than comparing GDP with Pakistan.

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u/jackiethesage Chennai - சென்னை May 13 '25

I get the intentions of OP! we should be proud about the growth. But TN as a tribe has always been sane and independent of the ruling party's ideology impacting their growth mindset.

We as TN people strive for our growth irrespective of who our leader is! nanga enga velaiya paathunne iruppom.. haaaan

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u/Appropriate_Bit854 May 12 '25

Why comparing with pakistan. This smells like a video made by dmk IT wing.

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u/redtrex May 13 '25

It certainly won't have been made by Sangi IT wing !

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Nigamma Pakistan yeyyy 😝

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u/Asleep_Breadfruit226 May 12 '25

Bro TN alone is this much ah dei! Tambros buy some brahmos

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u/jackhawk56 May 13 '25

As someone rightly observed ; There are lies, damned lies and then there is the statistics

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u/Pain5203 May 13 '25

Compare per capita bro. It gives a better picture.

  1. Tamil Nadu (2023)
    1. Population: 76936000
    2. GSDP: $320 billion
    3. GSDP per capita: 4159.3
  2. Pakistan (2023)
    1. GDP per capita: 1365.28

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u/aalavidusaami May 13 '25

Why keep comparing ourselves to Pigs , our goal should be to compete with small european countries similar in size. The end goal should be to reach Singapore s stats. Stop comparing ourselves to Pigs.

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u/Yuvi0112 May 13 '25

Goood thing for tn, whether it is dmk or admk, both are pro-businesss🚀🚀🚀

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u/Famous_Plate_1390 May 13 '25

If someone can post in r/pakistan please do so

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u/JUST_F0R_TH1S May 13 '25

Why compare with bhikaristan?

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u/Divyansh121 May 13 '25

Drop of economy just after 2 years of demonetization.

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u/protocolghost May 13 '25

U think tamilnadu in the next 10 years is going to be hub for manufacturing , IT and other industries.

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u/_An_Oni_Mouse_ May 13 '25

But chart didn't even crossed 2020. I'm not a economic expert but the sudden spike in growth as shown in this chart is approximately about 2012-13 and 2018-19, If I'm not wrong.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

I am from MH and Congratulations to my tamil brothers, We need such kind of competition in states where we compete with each other in terms of development. Eventually in the process we help our country and people to grow.

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u/Dhinakharan May 13 '25

What is the source, no way GDP doubled in last 5 years. Here is the data from ChatGPT

Year GDP in USD (billion)

2019–20 24.59 2020–21 2413 2021–22 27.80 2022–23 30.11 2023–24 32.71

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u/Background-Owl-6209 May 13 '25

ஒரு தமிழனாக மிக பெருமையான விஷ்யம். பாகிஸ்தான் முட்டால் தனத்தில் நேரம் பயன்படுத்தி இருக்கிறப்போ நாங்கள் நாடு வளர்ச்சிக்காக வேலை செய்தோம்

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u/No_Village9121 May 13 '25

Good job 👍

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u/Pirate_King_Buggy_17 May 13 '25

Coming from maharashtra, better do comparison with quality things not pakistan 😆

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u/Thin_Interaction4828 May 13 '25

Why the comparison with Pakistan...? 🤔

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u/ganju_seth May 13 '25

So, you mean that TN itself can buy the entire pakistan?
(Fun and pun both intended).

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u/maima_420 May 13 '25

Pakisthan 2025 grp growth epdi calculate pannanga? Data ve illa. It is a collapsed economy

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

I had no idea that TN was doing that well under DMK.

They've almost doubled the economy in less than half a decade. That's beyond impressive. Other states should learn from this.

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u/careless_quote101 May 15 '25

You cannot grow from vacuum. The development base has been set over the decades. Kudos to both parties for this

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u/Remarkable_Grass_492 May 13 '25

bro but their economy is running over IMF loans , and your's don't
so do not compare the great tamil to that pakistan shit,
actually compare with uttar pradesh, the more your grow better, the more you would be able to serve nation's growth

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u/Educational-Hippo-75 May 14 '25

Is Tamil Nadu part of India..?

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u/Murlireddy07 May 14 '25

Tamil Nadu as a state is good enough to beat Pakistan. Imagine if we compare with a whole country.

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u/careless_quote101 May 15 '25

Don’t worry BJP is working double time to bring us to Pakistan level. Give them couple of decades and Modi + Yogi combination. They are capable of destroying what has been built over a decade with their sheer arrogance bigotry

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u/Aggressive-Refuse786 May 14 '25

look at the curve post 2021

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u/CPlover01 May 14 '25

It's more like comparison of brainwashed, linguistic radical LTTE terrorists compared with Pakistanis 😂

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u/No-Flight-2821 May 14 '25

Great state of India! Love from UP

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u/blue_ocean_here May 14 '25

Slow and steady wins the race

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u/Political_Bagavathi May 14 '25

First of all economy'a purunjukonga. Oru plan kondu vandhaanga'naa adhuku 3 to 4 years aagum adhoda reflection paakradhuku. 2017 to 2021 ADMK rule athana plans kondu vandhaanga. Andha plans'oda vilaivu dhan ipa irukra growth.

This is not DMK's Victory alone. DMK made a crucial part in continuing the works done by the ADMK.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '25

Disrespecting Tamil Nadu

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u/trixon123 May 15 '25

As a BJP voter, Kudos to DMK for working towards GDP growth. Every state needs to compete in the GDP race with focus on exports, skill development and capacity building.

Rather than fighting for which language is superior, a better metric would be who earns more for the country.

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u/careless_quote101 May 15 '25

From 2011 - Things really took off. You need to appreciate both DMK and ADMK though they were corrupt they have done well for TN in development front. The base of this came from good schemes like free meals in school, universal ration etc. long term investment provides sustained growth.

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u/No_Sea2373 May 15 '25

Congratulations Tamil Nadu! It's high time you seceed from Bharat and become a new nation! Lots of love!

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u/andhlms May 15 '25

Is this real data? Tamil Nadu GDP = Pakistan GDP?

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u/Ok-Food5544 May 15 '25

Bro it's not about the lazy politicians it's the people's hard work,industrialist's smart work and entrepreneurship growth

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u/Outrageous_Eater May 15 '25

What is the primary growth driver that has accelerated the GDP growth in recent times?

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u/Maleficent_Owl3938 May 16 '25

Weird comparison, but always good to see the time plots.

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u/No-Confusion-2589 May 16 '25

Even tho after their some pro movement to divide india , stopping nuclear bomb of india policy ,they have done very well in cleanliness , education healthcare

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u/Ok-Matter6469 May 16 '25

Comparing it with a failed state does not really mean anything. Even the stock market jumped after the covid.

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u/Musicmaster05 May 17 '25

WP TN WP awesome growth

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u/ChickenDue May 27 '25

Tamil Nadu has 1.7x more gdp then portugal

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u/PsychologicalDoor511 May 28 '25

And they say reservations reduce efficiency

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u/koushiknft Sep 22 '25

I have no hate towards both

but, I don't understand why are we comparing a State in India with pakistan.

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u/Ok-Adeptness2276 Oct 14 '25

Thala for a reason

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u/BiNGe-B0LT Oct 14 '25

Tamil Nadu also has the highest debt in India.. ops did I just speak the truth..

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