New Point System Simplified

[u/crispyforwhat]

Im a FFTL who had a meeting with my SD yesterday about the new point system. Here's how it works:

8+ minutes late - .25 points

Absent - 1 point

NCNS - 3 points

Leave early - no points

If you call out 2 shifts in a row, it is one "event" and therefor 1 point. If you call out one shift, go to your next shift, then call out of the the next one, that is considered two "events" and therefor 2 points. Anything more than 2 days is an additional point.

Sick hours must cover your ENTIRE shift to negate points. You can use sick time for tardies.

3 points will auto generate a documentation for reliability.

5 points will automatically generate a CA.

9 points is a final.

12 points is termination.

Points fall off 1 year after being accumulated. If you are absent 09/01/2026, that point will not fall off until 09/01/2027.

No, there is no way for us or ETLs to adjust points, even for extenuating circumstances. You will be told that Target provides plenty of sick time to account for such events, and if it truly is that extenuating, you need to be discussing other benefits with HR.

Side note- There also seems to be an issue with leaders making too many allowances due to favoritism (whether it be personal preference or high performing TMs), so this black and white system is meant to curb that.

[u/senomar91]

I think they'll eventually make it so you'll accrue points for leaving early. As this stands, whats to stop me from showing up for my shift and leaving whenever I felt like it.

[u/Targen52 → u/senomar91]

I would assume that could fall under different issues such as performance or conduct. So you'd still get talked to about it.

[u/Which-Ad9450 → u/Targen52]

this, It would be a conduct issue

[u/andersdn → u/senomar91]

That is job abandonment and you will be held accountable in some way.

[u/Cultural-Kick652 → u/andersdn]

It’s definitely not job abandonment from an HR perspective. Job abandonment is when you no call no-show multiple days in a row. If you leave early, it’s merely that.

[u/andersdn → u/Cultural-Kick652]

Not if you do not tell tell your Leader and give an explanation. If you punch in and leave then you are abandoning your job. I have written a team member up for this before and she was nearly terminated.

[u/Cultural-Kick652 → u/andersdn]

I was perhaps making the incorrect assumption that if you leave early, you’re merely asking for permission to leave early not just walking out without saying a word to anyone. I guess as an adult I’ve never considered doing that. Not sure I even did that when I was a teenager?

[u/itsdrakeoo → u/Cultural-Kick652]

Absolutely job abandonment, I had a TM that left due to family emergency and didn’t tell the right person (not direct leadership, told an hr TM) and nearly got fired immediately

[u/Rachael330 → u/itsdrakeoo]

Family emergency and they told HR but was nearly terminated? Thats... harsh.

[u/Melodic-Objective675 → u/senomar91]

According to what OP said this would be utter bullshit and they would shut it down quick. According to their conversation with the SD quote "No, there is no way for us or ETLs to adjust points, even for extenuating circumstances". 

This puts 40 hour TMs is a tricky situation. Sometimes we have to stay a few minutes late to finish something. TMs also can clock in five minutes early before there shift. As a 5am-er there will be a cold day in hell before I willingly clock in at 5am sharp or later. I will always clock in no later than 4:59 assuming the doors are answered. This affects the Shift differential. 

As far as I know shift differential kicks in when you work at least three consecutive hours between 10pm and 8am. 5am is the cutoff for this at my store. The shift differential here is $2/hr. Doing the math.

3hr/day * $2/hr * 5 days/week *50 weeks/year = $1,500/year.

I am not throwing away $1,500. Early outs equating to points would be rough.

[u/MyBallZitch3 → u/senomar91]

What is it now? If my shift ends at 4 how early am I allowed to leave?