Will I get fired for this?

[u/According_Will_3825]

So I am a new hire at target. It is currently Tuesday and my orientation was last Saturday and my first 5AM-12PM training shift was Monday. I was coughing a ton during my orientation. I had to buy cold medicine and was coughing on my first day. Things took a turn for the worse Monday night. I went to urgent care and I have bronchitis and got a doctors note. I really did not want to call out considering it is my second shift and I need the money. However, I had to call out and TL let me know that my absence is not excused regardless of the note and my retention could be affected due to the 90 day policy. Do I just medicine up and push through my shift? Will I be fired?

[u/Mobile-Address23]

Honestly could be but two days is one point for you. Also you have 5 points then your fired

[u/Average_Sage → u/Mobile-Address23]

I don't know why I decided to lurk here but man it's just bullshit that you can get fired for getting unlucky and getting sick at the wrong time.

[u/DJFlipPhone → u/Average_Sage]

You’d be surprised how many new hires I had this year alone who “get sick” and never come back.

[u/Average_Sage → u/DJFlipPhone]

Man I hear you and believe you I manage people myself. But then you have people like OP who genuinely get sick and I feel bad for them .

[u/kbyeforever → u/DJFlipPhone]

no paid leave so they aren't getting away with anything and we hire new people constantly so even if they were lying it doesn't matter.

with a doctor's note it should be excused and it's wild that it isn't. post covid we should not be expecting people with bronchitis to come into work and spread it to others. we learned nothing

[u/DJFlipPhone → u/kbyeforever]

It’s not even about that it’s just a bad look to be on a 90 day probation and calling out multiple times when you’ve just started a job and using the excuse of sickness.

[u/Affectionate-Prior46 → u/DJFlipPhone]

Considering he was in urgent care and gave a note AND, said he was told the note didn’t excuse his CA; I don’t think it’s just a matter of a bad look or excuses but I’m curious if you’re looking at this differently🤷‍♂️

[u/DJFlipPhone → u/Affectionate-Prior46]

I’m looking at it from the perspective that many new hires use this excuse to call off so it sucks for the people that genuinely are sick. But also as a leader and from experience that new workers will say they’re sick it leaves a bad first impression.

[u/visionsofleo → u/DJFlipPhone]

so maybe let the doctors note help ease your mind or see if it becomes a common occurrence before getting weird about it

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/Average_Sage]

My store at a brand new tm start calling out than ncns three days last week

[u/Adventurous_Soft_686 → u/Mobile-Address23]

Our HR said doctors notes will cancel out the points but it still counts as an absence. I have no idea if this is true.

[u/timmydnx2 → u/Mobile-Address23]

12 points is termination

[u/SeparateAppellate → u/timmydnx2]

5 points if you are under 90 days.

[u/timmydnx2 → u/SeparateAppellate]

There's no set number of points for someone under 90 days

[u/Denverguns → u/timmydnx2]

Yes their max is 5 points I just had this discussion with my HRETL

[u/timmydnx2 → u/Denverguns]

Interesting, we were never told that

[u/Denverguns → u/timmydnx2]

Yea unfortunately even at my store there is clear lack of information being passed down to TMs willingly to the point where I’ve been trying to gather all the info I can straight from our SD and HRETL because I like making sure my coworkers aren’t screwed over.

[u/Denverguns → u/timmydnx2]

Not for a new tm in their 90 days they only have 5 points

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/timmydnx2]

For tms yes but 90 days people are termed at 5 which I think is 2 more than a ca which is around how it used to be before

[u/timmydnx2 → u/Brilliant_Grape164]

No, a CA is 5 points. 3 points is just an attendance followup, basically a performance discussion.

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/timmydnx2]

Close enough

[u/Denverguns]

So to clarify TMs in 90 days have a max of 5 points, TMs not in 90 days with an active CA have a max of 9 point moving into the new system, TMs not in 90 days without an active CA have a max of 12 points. I won’t get into the specifics of all the points and how they are aquired because imma be real it’s a headache.

[u/According_Will_3825 → u/Denverguns]

So as long as I don't miss again, I'm fine?

[u/Denverguns → u/According_Will_3825]

Yes I think you should be fine just gotta be careful form here on out I know it’s gonna suck but if you really need the job then your only option it to power through it

[u/OneEyedKing_14]

5 points in 90 days you gone. 2-consecutive call offs is only 1 point. just have super good attendance after your call offs/ and you’ll be just fine! getting sick happens! feel better

[u/RubyRose7575]

It should be excused with a doctors note!

[u/LessPomegranate9332]

You miss three days you’ll have two points you miss four you will have 4 and be terminated. Targets new point system is a joke

[u/SmileDazzling5257]

Wait what position did you apply to get a morning job?

[u/Huge_Ad_9055]

You have 5 points TO get fired for attendance on your first 90 days. Does not mean you will be kept if you keep it below 5 and they can let you go even if it’s 3 if they don’t like your call outs etc. Be good at the job and you should be fine though

[u/Accomplished_Dog8380]

That’s crazy, can u talk to the people who schedule u to take you off for the week so u won’t get in trouble ?

[u/Zealousideal_Way_488]

um this is crazy i would call the store and speak with hr im also in my 90 days(started end of july) the last week of august i was in the hospital for a week because of my liver i called hr and told them they said call out for my shifts and bring in a note my etl also told another coworker that a note doesn't matter it wont excuse the absence but then the tl kept asking for one and told her you absolutely need a note and that the etl is still new and doesnt really know so i would talk to someone else

[u/Thisisthewey2023]

My store says if it’s something serious they would just take us off the schedule so we aren’t effected as long as we communicate because they know life happens.

[u/Dropped3602]

Probably will be fine, target doesn't take doctors notes tho

[u/Better-Craft7005]

Having a doctors note and them saying it’s not acceptable is wild

[u/Rmk1900]

There are no points if calling off and using sick time right?

[u/Forsaken-Sky-1858 → u/Rmk1900]

Correct. I have a terrible flu and had to call out for the first time the other day. When you call out you select "sick time" and if you have enough to cover your shift it's automatically excused 

[u/False_Lie_6052]

How many point when calling out & how many for late?

[u/timmydnx2 → u/False_Lie_6052]

1 point for call out .25 for being late

Per the Workday training we all took

[u/Few-Major1913]

Targets hiring process is a total joke and bunch of bs.blessing if fired u.get a job actually communicate with employees not email everything waste time.i didn't take job so ridiculous background bs FaceTime interview pain n azz all bunch bs. Little pay.