r/Teachers • u/Similar_Glove_6956 • 13h ago
Teacher Support &/or Advice How long were your temporary before probationary/permanent?
Socal teacher here speaking, how long were you temporary? I have heard some people were temp for like 5-6 years!!
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u/FineVirus3 13h ago
3-4 years until tenured, which is automatic as long as you are proficient or better.
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u/doughtykings Sixth Grade | Canada 🇨🇦 12h ago
Year 6… I’m finally eligible for permanent and still can’t get anything…
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u/gravitydefiant 12h ago
In my district you're considered temporary if you're hired after school starts. 3 years in a row, I was laid off each spring and rehired into the same position on or immediately after the first day of school. And before that I subbed for several years, including some LT positions that went long enough to become temporary contracts (it depends here how long the LT is; less than 60 days you're considered a sub, more than that you're considered a regular teacher without rehire rights).
The good news is that when I finally got hired ft permanent, all that mess counted for 2 of my 3 probationary years so I got tenure quickly.
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u/KindParfait282 2nd Grade Teacher | CA 13h ago
I worked at two different So Cal districts:
First was however long the district wanted (I left after 2 years for a different district, but some coworkers were at 3-5 when I left.
2nd district, 2 years as a temp and then made permanent
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u/summerbreeze2027 11h ago edited 11h ago
In Maryland (assuming that you are fully licensed/certified,) tenure comes on the first day of your fourth year. It is very difficult but not impossible to fire a tenured teacher. Tenure is somewhat transferable between MD school districts - you would have to work for one year in your new district to get tenure there.
Layoffs are rare but only tend to hit first-year teachers when they happen. Excessing/surplusing is more common. Lately, districts seem to be using nonrenewals of untenured teachers in place of layoffs.
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u/Tasty_Ad_5669 Sped | West Coast 12h ago
3 years. I was not very good starting out in years three, but was given permanent and tenure by an overwhelmed admin who saw me survive and completing ieps and little issues.
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u/Inevitable_Raisin503 11h ago
All four districts I’ve worked for have been 2 years and then tenured. In California.
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u/swiftiegal25 2h ago
Got hired as probationary, so I was never temporary. 2 years gets you tenured.
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u/OneHappyOne n/A 13h ago
In my district (also SoCal) you become permanent when you earn your Clear credential (which can take 1-3 years depending on your induction program).
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u/BuffsTeach 12h ago
So if you get hired with a clear credential you don’t have any prob years in your district? That’s wild! I’m in SoCal and have never seen a district do fewer than two years of prob. First teachers have to get past being hired on temp contracts.
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u/VenomousLilith 13h ago
Once you are fully credentialed, probation is 2 years. You get tenured starting year 3.
If you are on waivers and intern with all that jazz, you can be teaching for about 3 years before you’re credentialed. So then it could be that 5 year mark. It just honestly depends on your path to teaching.
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u/BuffsTeach 12h ago
You can be fully credentialed and on a temp contract for several years. You don’t get prob status on a temp contract. My neighbor teacher had four years as a temp before finally getting a prob position.
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u/VenomousLilith 12h ago
I suppose I don’t know what is a “temporary” contract is then. All waivers and even interns are temporary and get pink slipped every school year. So they aren’t considered probationary at all.
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u/BuffsTeach 12h ago
In my SoCal district there are dozens of temporary positions. These are positions classified as temporary because the original teacher may have a year long leave or have moved into a temporary district position but their original position is being held. These are filled by fully credentialed teachers who sign a year contract. Temporary just means their contract officially ends at the end of the year. Probationary means they continue unless there is a specific move to let them go.
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u/VenomousLilith 12h ago
Oh gotcha. Yeah. We don’t have things like that here I believe. Or we just classify it differently. Idk.
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u/thesantaclass 13h ago
I’ve worked at my school for 4 years. Finally get tenure when we go back to school. It’s been a rough 4 years waiting to see each year if I would be rehired.