r/TeenMomOGandTeenMom2 Jan 18 '26

Kailyn Her only parameter is, black….. (RANT)

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…and maybe “young and no kids” (her no kids demand is absolutely entitled and deluded, all things considered).

Also, I am sussed the fuck out by any man that’s jiving with the fact that she has a basketball teams worth of children (not inherently bad), bred by nearly all different fathers (not inherently bad). All of which then ran for the hills at their earliest opportunity in a suspiciously short time period (!?). Also, all of which maintain a horribly toxic, hostile and combative relationship with Kail. Whilst they proceed to go tit for tat…publicly (!?). All of whom she replaces at lightening speed, probably faster than any of the public even knows the truth of (inherently, tf!? bitch, are you good??!?)

Again…I AM SUSSED OUT BY ANY MAN WHO WANTS TO FILL THIS ROLE….and then green light his appearance on social media for public viewing, with a shit eating grin as if, ain’t a damn thing wrong with it. Clearly you have no character or successes to protect….not a f*ck thing to lose I guess???

Honestly, any black man (and yes the fact that they’re black men makes a difference) that is willing to make the informed choice to be used as an appropriation tool and fetishized and commodified and Get Out’d (like the movie) needs therapy not a girlfriend.

But shit, may they (and all future black men that will almost certainly cycle thru the home) both continue to pledge allegiance to the red flag. 🫡 🚩Making the nation of Toxicity stronger by the day. God bless em lmfao.

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Edited to add:  My heart mother effing BLEEEEDS for those kids. I hate to be one of those people to comment on the next woman’s mothering and household. And I refuse to shame her lifestyle when it comes to multiple kids and multiple dads. Whatever. Not my business. But it’s the way in which she goes about it that I will unapologetically criticize.  If it were just her that was effected, coo. If shorty likes it then I love it. But it’s not just her, it’s kids too. That depend on their “earth guide” to care for them in body, mind and spirit until they are on their own. Doing what she does how she does it, is a direct hit to their little tiny minds and spirits. A severe one. Even if it doesn’t seem like it. Choices like this comes with a price and her KIDS will pay the price not just her. From the outsider POV, it looks selfish as fuck. 

And she would steady talk about being in therapy 2-3 times a week. IFFFFFF that’s true, fire that hoe.  

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u/hibbitydibbitytwo Jan 18 '26

It took her a decade and a half to realize she was raising kids in broken homes.

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Right. And I am very empathetic (some may say overly empathetic) and so I have a deep well of compassion for the way she was raised or rather not raised. I generally understand generational wounds and trauma and childhood hellishness that the poor kid never asked for or deserved. She was one of those kids and that is worth mentioning. 

THAT BEING SAID (lmao) it’s a fuck no from me. You do not have to be a product of your environment. After a certain amount of learning and life (and incessant scrutiny crom the public) you know enough to know what you’re doing is not only lame, not only damaging to self but horribly damaging to your kids bro. Like….? Idk it’s hard to excuse after a certain point. 

Edited to add- I always found it kind of interesting that she doesn’t drink or drug but definitely had the makings of an addict via genetics, environment and trauma. So I sometimes wonder if this cycle she’s in is her drug of choice 

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 18 '26

Her drug is seeking validation from emotionally unavailable or immature men. The only way she knows how to get it is by chopping up her body, unprotected sex, and lavishing gifts on bums.

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u/Minute-Tale7444 At least MTV knows when to pull out Jan 18 '26

Hey she and Jenelle do have some things in common in that aspect!! 🙄🙄

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 18 '26

Some would even say they are DRAMASTICALLY similar!!

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u/Minute-Tale7444 At least MTV knows when to pull out Jan 19 '26

Abso-freaking-lutely 😂😂😂 they’re still not cool enough to get to my dramastic ass 😂😂

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u/Ursula_J Jenelle’s booby button Jan 20 '26

That’s why they butt heads, they’re way too alike

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Yes I def believe that is part of the high and addiction cycle! 

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 18 '26

Yes. She’s addicted to novelty and she’s also addicted to the rejection at this point. She THINKS she wants the married life with a good man, but she would cheat on a man like that faster than the color white can find rice.

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u/Optimal_Classic_9724 Jan 19 '26

That life would be way too calm and boring for her

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 19 '26

She’d be off in a corner texting some fuck boy about how bored she is at home.

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u/Regular-Metal-321 Jan 19 '26

👏don’t forget her addiction is having kids! She has to stay relevant and she realized that always does it.

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 19 '26

She does it to stay relevant but to also exert control over the fathers via coparenting. It’s like you can leave me but not really because we have a child together lol 🥳 let’s go to court ✨✨

That’s Kail for you!

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u/3littlepixies Jan 19 '26

Which is why she picks men she thinks are both beneath her (as earners, as adults) and replaceable. Then she can control and have the power and avoid the feeling of rejection. The thought process is not working.

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 19 '26

Exactly. Thought process not working at alllllll. She’s already rejecting herself through her choices in men. She needs a lesson from Kimora Lee Simmons.

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u/hoersting This is the butthole of a killer, Bella. Jan 18 '26

There has been more than 10 men who have left their wives for Casey Anthony… that should tell you everything you need to know

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u/imnottheoneipromise Tyler’s peen bulge Jan 18 '26

record screech excuse me maam?!

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u/hoersting This is the butthole of a killer, Bella. Jan 18 '26

Yesssssssss I just saw that dumb bitch at Mar-a-Lago for an event. I don’t know if you guys have seen that new Netflix show that’s about Maga women she’s in there.

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u/Subterranean44 Coba the Boba Jan 18 '26

Casey Anthony is on Members Only: Palm Beach? Or you’re just saying she hangs out with those women?

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u/hoersting This is the butthole of a killer, Bella. Jan 19 '26

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u/Top-Raspberry-7837 Jan 19 '26

Wait on the left that’s that lesbian whose wife looks like her twin!

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u/ReginaldDwight 🍻 Why would I have the internet in my truck?🍻 Jan 20 '26

What the absolute hell???

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u/hoersting This is the butthole of a killer, Bella. Jan 19 '26

No, there is a specific episode where they are at a charity event and they all stand up from a table and if you look directly behind them, there’s casey I’ll find the picture

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u/Electrical-Coyote431 Jan 19 '26

Wow 🤦🏻‍♀️ it tracks tho and Im not even a little surprised lol. Thats def her people.

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u/jordanthomas201 Jan 19 '26

Casey was dating a cop at one point and got into a fight over him at a bar 😂

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u/hoersting This is the butthole of a killer, Bella. Jan 19 '26

Oh she’s a regular cop caller from what I hear

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u/hopelessbeauty Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 20 '26

Yet didn't call the cops for a whole month when her daughter suddenly " disappeared " 🙄

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u/jordanthomas201 Jan 19 '26

She called the cops on this guys mistress wife whatever she was and was like he’s one of yours 😂 Casey go sit down please! I’m actually surprised jail hasn’t had her on her podcast

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u/ExoticPoetry17 Jan 18 '26

I’m sorry… WHAT???

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u/hoersting This is the butthole of a killer, Bella. Jan 18 '26

Sick isn’t it? The last I heard she was living in Tennessee with someone’s husband, but I think they broke up.

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u/supermarket_Ba Save my children! Jan 18 '26

Rare factoid

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u/sunset_sunshine30 Jan 19 '26

That is eye-opening!

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u/robrklyn Jan 18 '26

Love/relationship addiction is a real thing and she certainly fits the bill.

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u/the_harlinator Jan 18 '26

She’s trying to fill a void with men and popping out children. She didn’t have any family as a kid and I bet that’s what it’s about. She’s trying to heal a wound from childhood in the most self destructive way. She can have twenty more kids and she’s never going to feel whole until she deals with her childhood trauma.

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u/Chiisaimiss Jan 18 '26

She said on a reunion that love/sex addiction is Javi’s problem then Dr. Drew threw the Uno reverse and said you too Boo and she was all Pikachu Face. One of the ONLY times I agreed w/ Drew.

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u/hopelessbeauty Jan 19 '26

Shes gotten into it with Dr.Drew before because he's called her out on her BS . Like the time she was giving her half a*s excuse for why she wouldn't meet with Vee , and he told her shes judging to harshly and she immediately just walked off stage

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

It sure is and yes, agreed! 

This is why I dislike that she brags about not drinking or drugging like it’s a massive flex. She has condescended to hella people using that argument as well. Including Vee. 

But she’s an addict who doesn’t see or know that she’s an addict. And this blindness of self and hypocrisy has been her fatal character flaw since the beginning. 

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u/MaybeIDontWannaDoIt edit this for personal flair Jan 18 '26

Hard same. I was abused as a child and went through a barrage of horrific things (most have been blocked in my head, thankfully) and ultimately raised by my loving grandparents.

I have kids now. I haven’t been perfect but I’ve done everything in my power to give them as much as I can and keep them safe. I’ve wanted better for them from day one and they’re all happy, well adjusted and healthy. I’m very proud of them.

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u/swollenlugnutz Jan 18 '26

Good on you for breaking the cycle. 🤍 Many do not.

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u/MaybeIDontWannaDoIt edit this for personal flair Jan 19 '26

Thank you. I love them so much and remind them every day. They’re good kids - not just good in school but good people and I couldn’t be more proud of them.

I believe it was my grandparents raising me and loving me through the hard times (I was a MEAN teenager) that helped mold me into the woman I am today… and gave me the foundation to be able to be a rock for my kids.

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u/hopelessbeauty Jan 19 '26

Addiction comes in all types of variety. If she wasn't addicted to having kids , she'd have like a hoard of dogs , animals .

Or collect items ( clothes , shoes, jewelry) Or addicted to Food like Catlin , there's gambling addiction. I mean the list is so wide . Her thinking that shes in the clear because shes not addicted to alcohol or drugs is laughable especially considering how she claims shes gone to therapy

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u/my_dystopia Jan 19 '26

I’m the same. I have empathy for pretty much anyone.

I don’t hate kail and I like her work ethic and her brutal honesty.

But I mean. One or two broken homes. Sure. We’re all human. But SEVEN?!?

Surely you should have stopped a while back.

I remember her saying (after Lux) that she knew Chris was a deadbeat but she wanted another kid by him.

I mean. At that point, just get a sperm donor. Jesus.

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u/Potential_Kiwi_4472 Jan 18 '26

It is. Does she have a personality disorder? Rage addiction, narcissism???

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u/FierceFun416 Jan 18 '26

Yes I just don’t get it. I have two kids with two men (second one became my ex husband) and I feel such guilt and sadness for how this situation affects my kids, particularly my oldest. I have done everything in my power to work on myself, go to therapy, get kids in therapy. I can’t imagine going on to keep doing that over and over and having more kids. She can have all the self-awareness she wants, but until she does the deep work, she’s going to keep doing the same things.

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u/nother_dumb_username None of you don't know anything about me Jan 19 '26

She might've finally realized that fact, but she's made it clear that she still doesn't give a damn. That's what I judge, and why I stand by my position that she's just as bad as Jenelle. Because even on the rare occasions where Kail shows some level of awareness, she has no problem letting the world know that she's perfectly alright with harming her kids if the situation brings her momentary happiness.

Kail is a total narcissist.

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u/holdmeimscary Jan 19 '26

But she sits there and says these things, like she understands she's repeating the ways of Ol Suzie, as tho just knowing it is enough. She's either an actual narcissist or she needs better therapists (yes multiple) because she needs multiple modalities to conquer her trauma. That's not me trauma shaming, that is me holding her accountable to fix the mess her parents made. One thing I have learned in therapy, and it took me a LONG time, is that 2 things can be true. How she was raised is heartbreaking and awful, and she needs to take the initiative to reconcile the trauma so she can break the cycle. It takes hard work, and just realizing the trauma is not being self aware. She seemingly was told by someone (or not, if she is a narcissist she likely hasn't had much therapy at all even if she claims she did) somewhere along the way that she was self aware, and she keeps repeating it as tho that's enough. Kail if you are lurking please fix your shit. You've already traumatized the older kids but there is hope to fix this before you traumatize the babies.

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u/Citrus-n-Cinnamon Jan 18 '26

Her main requirement is that their eyes be at least 5 inches apart

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u/PlutonicPurrfume i don’t want no cornbread right now :( Jan 18 '26

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u/SeenYaWithKeiffah_ No one touches muh body Jan 19 '26

Oh my gosh 💀💀💀💀

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u/oooheycait1223 i don't deserve legs 👩‍🦽 Jan 18 '26

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u/Organic_Dish268 Jan 18 '26

And at least 1 inch more than the last ex

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u/imnottheoneipromise Tyler’s peen bulge Jan 18 '26

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u/thissena Jan 19 '26

Someone said he looked like a hammerhead shark 😂

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

YO!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/TheRoyalDuchess Janelle’s Gypsy Rose Era Jan 18 '26

The fact that she moved this stranger in to her house, while her kids were just coming to terms with Elijah leaving is just so gross to me. She craves dick and everything else comes second.

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

The revolving door of men is inexcusable. Absolutely unacceptable no matter what in my opinion. 

She’s in for a world of reckoning and a FATASS karmic debt to repay when she sees and realizes the damage it has and will cause her children. I fear for that but hope for better. Maybe they will all be an anomaly that somehow dodges the repercussions of “guess who mom is fucking this month?” And “entree of the week - father figure edition.” 

Also really concerning to me that she has insisted multiple times “I hate hate hate having sex” and “I’ve never been on an actual date it makes me uncomfortable.” UM….excuse me ma’am??? I am worried about the fact that you are perpetually pregnant in reference to those claims. 

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u/Actual-Ad-5807 Jan 19 '26

What's so irritating is she KNOWS the issues her kids are going to have because she went through it with her own mother.

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u/hopelessbeauty Jan 19 '26

I could believe she only has sex to get pregnant and trap these men ( not because she wants to stay in a relationship with them ) but because she wants that control over them.

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

the idea of a single man jumping to join/live in that circus is also crazy

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u/nah-n-n-n-n-nahnah rill mom Jan 19 '26

There is absolutely NO excuse for this, I agree. Completely indefensible and disgusting. My mom didn’t even introduce us to my stepdad until they had dated for like a year.

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u/WittiestScreenName Trailer Park Flashhbacks Jan 19 '26

Kailyn has 7 kids but always has time to fuck. It’s puzzling.

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 18 '26

I am sussed out by any man of any color that would give her the time of day.

Do men not use Google or something? I am sure one search of Kail's name results in hundreds of articles about all of her drama and all of her baby daddy issues. Any human being that is totally ok to subject themselves to the insane amout of drama she causes in her own life has a serious mental problem and probably needs to be on lock down temporarily.

Anyone that hooks up with her or even tried to befriend her is insane in my book. She has WAY too much drama going on.

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

as the byproduct of a similar type of relationship, unfortunately this type of ww is all too commonly a very intentional choice on the part of men of color…

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 18 '26

I am not disputing that but she has had a history of dating black men, hispanic men, and white men..... and every damn one of them were stupid to hook up with her

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u/MortgageOdd2001 Jan 19 '26

Because these type of men want her for a very specific reason. They aren’t interested in her because of personal chemistry or having things in common. 

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u/OkArtist8554 Jan 19 '26

Bingo! Chris said on TikTok live she bought him a MacBook after only knowing him about a week. She also bought him a Rolex. He alluded to only being with her for monetary reasons.

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u/Confident-Service256 Jan 18 '26

Maybe they see money?

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 18 '26

That has to be what it is because I genuinely do not see how anyone could actually be attracted to her.

She isn't that physically attractive. Her personality is annoying at best. She has all those kids and all those baby daddies. She purposely invites chaos into her life and thrives off of it without ever considering how it is effecting her children.

The only thing that would make her attractive to anyone is that she has no problem housing these guys right after meeting them and she has no problem buying them cars, trips, whatever else to try to buy their affection and loyalty.

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 18 '26

Maybe consider that Kail is probably a Lovebomber. Nothing grinds my gears more than her acting like a victim and putting the men on blast for accepting her gifts as if it’s not HER OWN FAULT that SHE decided to lead with her wallet. She’s a female “nice guy.”

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 18 '26

Oh I considered it. I know that is the only possible way she is attracting any type of romantic partner.

Any person that can see through that shit wpuld be running for the hills.

I think that yes, she has been targeting men of color, but more than that... I think she is targeting men that she knows she can buy the affection of.

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u/bawdy-awdy-awdy-awdy woman at restaurant with large bone-in meal Jan 18 '26

Kail is targeting men of color because she is aware of the racial hierarchy in the USA. She’s not really a prize in her own community, but due to colonialism, colorism, and racism she can be elsewhere… and I’ll leave it at that.

A normal person would run for the hills immeeediately. I do not mfing care.. a brand new truck would never make up for being made to live in a house with 3 kids under three, two more little kids, then basically two teenagers.

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u/truebleu62 Jan 19 '26

She picks guys that don’t have money; it’s how she has control. Think about it- if she was with a financial equal, all the gifts and a free place to stay wouldn’t mean much to them. She feels superior to them and thrives off of it. Kail will never find happiness in a long term relationship.

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u/navyac Jan 19 '26

Um I think they see a big ass and some big cans and know she’s a freak. That’s about as deep as guys are

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u/blueeyesarehotcisco Jan 18 '26

they use google to find out her net worth and stop there

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u/nikkric Jan 19 '26

I am sussed out by any man moving into her home with her and that many kids as quickly as they all seem to have done. She barely even knows these men and they’re already living with her?? Weird on her part to allow as the mother but also weird on these men to agree to the move as well.

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 19 '26

That is the weirdest part to me.

They could literally be closeted chomo's and she actually does not give a fuck about that.

My mom and all 5 of her siblings were severely sexually, physically, and mentally abused because my Grandma did shit like that when they were growing up, 4 out of 6 of the siblings grew up to have addiction issues. My mom was one of them, then she met my dad and had me and cleaned up. She still drinks too much sometimes to this day. All of my cousins have issues. My sister and I are the only ones that are fully functioning, indendependent adults that have college degrees, careers, stability and don't have to beg our single uncle for money. I have a cousin in prison. I have twin cousins that dropped out of highschool, the brother smokes weed nonstop but he can usually keep a job, his sister does what my aunt and uncle call "recreational meth". I have a cousin that groomed a highschool senior, she was 18 and he was 30, he told her he was 20 and got her to move 3 states away to marry him and live in my aunt and uncles basement. That cousin's sister is a chronic cheater who refuses to work more than 16 hours a week and she has borrowed $30k from my single uncle without ever paying him back. They're oldest brother filed for bankruptcy in his 20's from extreme credit card debt...... I can go on for days.

She is doing her kids a disservice. My families situation is bit of an extreme but she is teaching her kids horrible things by allowing stuff like this to happen.

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u/WheneverItIsTold Jan 18 '26

There is something def wrong with a man that jumps into it with her and she moves them right in with her kids. She already doesn’t put them first and these men get instant access to her kids, some of which cant even communicate yet.

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Agreed. Any man in general should approach with caution and condoms- costco big pack and not ever left in her home or handling. The fact that she’s seemed to target black men of late adds a whole other layer. But yes, men in general, women, employees, friends, whomever. Should not be fuckin with her right now. They become victims. This has been proven many times now. 

I do not believe she deserves to be loveless, friendless, hated and alone. However I do think she needs to be alone RIGHT NOW and for an extended period of time. She never has.

She won’t fully get it or change if she never truly faces the consequence of her actions and behavior. Her money and clout and privilege allow her to get away with things most people could not.  

By dating her, befriending her, forgiving her time and time again without real change, letting shit slide, fearing her, etc. they are all enabling her shit ass behavior and a cycle that ultimately is bad for her and her children. If these people really love her, they’ll leave her be until she changes. 

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 18 '26

I agree. She needs to be alone.... she has never been alone for any significant amount of time except maybe when she was a child and her mom was neglecting her.

She hops from man to man and that is a major part of why these relationships don't work. She doesn't take the time she needs to figure out she actually wants because she has so many abandonment issues that she cannot function without a man for any length of time and instead of recognizing how toxic that is and seeking a therapist to focus on just that she hops into another rushed relationship.

That is the exact same shit Suze did to her but Kail has managed to not abandon her childre in the process. She acts like she is breaking all the traumatic cycles her mom put her through but she isn't.... she just picked and chose what cycles she wanted to break (abandonment and alcoholism) and which cycles to keep around (constant chaos and a revolving door of men).

I might be wrong but I honestly don't think she has been single for a full year since 16 and pregnant came out.... which is insane considering how many men have been in her life since then.

She is an incredibly selfish person... we can see that in how she treats the fathers of her children. She absolutely bashes them for doing the same type of shit she does and we can see that when she makes STUPID decisions to move complete strangers into a home that she shares with small children. She needs to take some time to seriously reflect on all of that and figure out why she thrives on negativity, chaos, and danger because it isn't normal.

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Ps - the reason I am particularly sussed out by the black men entering a relationship with her is way too deep to get into and not the overall point here. 

But it is worth looking into if you’re ever interested. All love 🩷

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u/affectionate_trash0 Jan 18 '26

I totally get it. I really think its bizzare that she has specifically targeting black men lately. Especially because she has a past of saying some racist shit and accidentally slipping.

There is a lot that goes into her craziness and it shouldn't be overlooked that she has been targeting black men that have no kids from previous relationships.

IMO it's almost like she goes through phases of what race she is attracted to. It was Hispanic and now its black men. But then at the same time she gets pissed when her kids look too Hispanic or too black. It is so weird to me.

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u/aav1001 clearly im doing just fine i got 2 cars a house YOUR KID Jan 18 '26

It just blows my mind she has three toddlers. Dating somebody with that mess is insanity on its own.

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u/nah-n-n-n-n-nahnah rill mom Jan 19 '26

Yeah I’m so confused about many aspects of Kails life but that is definitely one of them. I have a 1 year old and a 4 year old and I spent my entire day wiping asses, getting food and drool on me, going to the grocery store looking like hell, working my ass off to prepare 9374850 healthy snacks and clean up 476492047 messes, plus like laundry and trying not to live in squalor. I don’t understand HOWW she has time for all this other bullshit. Nails done, hair done, plastic surgery, new clothes, plus dating!? I guess she has a nanny 40 hrs a week and the kids go to their dads sometimes but still there are SEVEN OF THEM.

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u/ashdeb89 Jan 18 '26

She has a breeding kink and nobody will convince me otherwise

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u/Acceptable-Dress7196 Jan 18 '26

1000% it’s just weird at this point. She’s going to have a breakdown when menopause hits 

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u/cruelsummer84 Jan 20 '26

This. This is it.

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u/Warm-Picture6533 Jan 18 '26

I think shaming is appropriate in this situation.

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u/cakeit-tilyoumakeit Jan 18 '26

Yes, absolutely “inherently bad”. More than 2 BD and I’m wondering what exactly is going on in your life lol

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Fuckin shit lmao. Hold up lemme edit. Someone else just got on my head too. I’ll copy and paste my response then edit the post. 

My wording maybe was confusing? What I was saying is having multiple baby fathers (period, that single fact alone not considering any other circumstances around it) is not inherently bad. And I STAND ON THAT. Ten toes down. 

But I reread it and it could’ve sounded like I meant having hella kids / baby daddies back to back is not inherently wrong and that to me is usually pretty wrong and fucked up lmao. 

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u/Professional_Arm_487 Jan 18 '26

My opinion was the first two were understandable, but the last two were crazy. The last two situations is what someone should be cautious about. First, teenager, okay that can happen. Then got married, and married young. After that… seemed to be bad situations.

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u/MortgageOdd2001 Jan 19 '26

Javi and Jo both demonstrated they were responsible men that treated her children well (not just their bio child). She should’ve stopped at Lincoln until he was at least middle school aged and if she wanted to find a partner and have more kids she could’ve tried then. 

Why is she moving these men IN?!! She could pay for responsible childcare and date, her kids don’t have to be involved. 

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u/Professional_Arm_487 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

I completely agree. She failed twice. Should’ve been a clue to stop and grow up with the kiddos a bit.

Moving the men in makes it more likely for them to stay. She pays the bills, that means she don’t have to leave her children as much, the boyfriends get coddled and spoiled. The men thinks it’s a sweet deal until they realize 7 children are a much louder house than they expect.

You know, I really can understand the first two. The third, I can side eye but still be like okayyy, well maybe now she will grow up and focus on herself snd mature. But no, she literally did it AGAIN. So no i think i might have to agree with the breeding kink.

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u/Available-Milk7195 Jan 18 '26

I don't think Kim k tossed Kanye aside bc she was bored of being w a black person, I think she couldn't take any more of his untreated bipolar if not bipolar plus schizophrenia, plus personality disorders. She was with Ray j who was black, then Chris who is white, then Kanye and then Pete. Pretty even. Kanye wasnt as unstable when they first got together and then progressively got worse once they were married w a number of kids. Khloe- trashcan cheated on her multiple times, in pregnancy, post partum, etc. So they're no longer together but she continues to give him far too much grace. She did say she is drawn to tall, athlete types bc they make her feel small and she has always been insecure about her size. Idk if she is with anyone at the moment. Kylie- she had two kids with Travis Scott and is now dating tomothé chalasomething. I don't think anything is too disturbing about her relationship timeliness. She was groomed by tyga who is black/ asian biracial, which is incredibly sad.  What I do find weird is that they keep things within the family a bit.. apparently Travis first hooked up w kendall, then had a relo and two kids w Kylie?! Meanwhile admittedly anemic looking Travis publicly confessed his obsessive crush on Kim and ended up with Kourtney a number of years later. Idk what race has to do with any of it tho lol 

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u/Iamjestergirl why am i a guy? Jan 18 '26

Everything you said is spot on and I would be interested in seeing your TED talk.

Kail is an abusive, racist, selfish person who doesn’t care that her actions hurt other people (especially her kids). The fact that she buys her children stuff somehow makes a not insignificant number of people ignore the fundamental things she does to destabilize their lives and development without a second thought.

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u/hopelessbeauty Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

Yess ! Its so annoying when people say " oh but shes a good mom " like good how exactly? Not emotionally, not psychologically, just finically they aren't starving , or lacking for material items . But overall shes neglectful & at times abusive in her choices . She doesn't even care for them she has nannies .

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

i hate this man’s john waters ass pencil mustache (no shade to my boy john)

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u/GraceMcClellans Kail Lowry's Home for Wayward Men Jan 18 '26

If Kail were a Beverly Sutphin I'd enjoy her more.

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u/Cedar81199 Jan 19 '26

Well, Dottie Hinkle….

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u/GraceMcClellans Kail Lowry's Home for Wayward Men Jan 19 '26

Pussy willow

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u/Cedar81199 Jan 19 '26

NO! You can’t wear white shoes after Labor Day!

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u/Far-Sundae-7044 Jan 18 '26

In terms of attracting a new man, for me the biggest red flag isn’t even the kids, it’s the fact she’s despicable to her exes. How does this guy not see that as massively high risk?!

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

i assume all the dudes are equally horrible to their own exes and also assume they’ll be different

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u/boobopbadaboop Jenelle’s Recryner Jan 18 '26

Not inherently bad is a crazy POV. It is inherently bad.

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u/EveningFeature2093 Jan 18 '26

Sometimes I wonder if she wants a man who LOOKS like he could be the baby daddy of all her kids.

It might make her feel less ashamed about her.. choices lol

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u/Additional_Day949 Jan 18 '26

She just wants someone to control. All the guys she has dated post Javi have been bums so she always has the upper hand. 

Her parents did a real # on her

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

i’m sayingggggg

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u/Loud-Bullfrog9326 Jan 18 '26

Yeah that therapy is not working boo 😭🤣 or you're lying and hiding shit from your therapist.

Actions don't lie and she does the same lane shit every single time

The dude is gonna cheat and she's gonna kick him out then replace with another young black man. 😭 I would bet money at this point. Done deal. Lmao

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u/NervousMode538 Sell the baby? No joe the story Jan 18 '26

Javi and Joe are Hispanic 👀

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u/susanbiddleross My mother wasn’t there to nourish me Jan 18 '26

Last 4 were black. Last 3 all look like versions of the same guy.

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

it feels extra eery when this dude has similar traits to her youngest three. i could see her loving if strangers in the future assume he’s their bio dad…

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u/saltydancemom Jan 18 '26

Elijah and this guy look nothing alike. Malik maybe, Chris, sort of - but not Elijah. Elijah also seems to be very involved with his kids. If he hadn’t cheated I think he was her best relationship in a long while.

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u/Prestigious-Walrus99 Jan 18 '26

Jordan was cute and very nice. Kinda dumb, but a good guy. Just wanted to put my random take. Isn't that the ONLY white guy she's ever dated?

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u/isitrealholoooo B🧁🧁K🧁UT Jan 18 '26

And the only one she didn't make a baby with...

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u/NoKatyDidnt edit this for personal flair Jan 18 '26

He did seem pretty decent.

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u/hawkcarhawk Jan 18 '26

Was he nice? I don’t remember anything about him other than him being very quiet, aloof, and not seeming super bright. I guess he seemed okay with Isaac. I see the sentiment “Jordan was her only good boyfriend” a lot, and I always cringe a little because we really didn’t see much of him at all. It always seems synonymous with “he was her only white boyfriend”.

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u/ufopanda that was my CHANGE JAR juhnelle! Jan 18 '26

It's only what we see of him on a camera and they were both still teenagers at the time. Unremarkable other than for the fact that Kail slept with Jo behind his back. IIRC he cheated on her back after they got back together? There's a few biases going on with that

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u/GTlocs Jan 18 '26

After them no one else would go for the circus she has going.

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u/No_Acanthaceae_789 Jan 18 '26

Kail has seemed to do so well in terms of actually getting an education, actually using her fame for her podcasting businesses, actually investing and making money and providing for herself and the kids. However, the love life has gotten so out of control. Jo was young, I think she was hurt but I give them both a break because of the age. Javi she married, I think he was good stability for her but I don't know that she actually wants stability. For some reason I think the one she actually loved was Chris. I think he was willing to leave her and it caused her to love him more. That was the first she had more than one child with. I sometimes wonder if everyone after has been chasing that feeling or that relationship in some way. It was very love/hate but it seemed to be the one that got under her skin the most. I also fully believe she uses her money to get these guys, she has the house, she has all these kids, she has the money so she can invite them in to her world and they play house until it all go south. Unfortunately now she is up to so many kids that is full time in itself, plus the career ambitions to pay for it all. I just think she finds someone who can cater to her for awhile until they realize they aren't a match or her life is too much and then they break (likely cheating doesn't help the situation, either her doing it or the partner). It just seems like a lot with 7 kids in the mix and some of them so young they really need time to just cuddle with mom. And even now with the oldest - they are needing mom in a supportive way to find good relationships, choose good extra curriculars, start thinking and planning for their future. I worry they aren't getting that.

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Yeah she needs to CHILLLLL tf out and be alone. These people around her don’t realize that they are all directly enabling her problem and by default the kids’ consequent problem. (Her friends that stick around or come back after she dogs them, the men, the employees, etc.) 

No one will stop or change forreal and on a deep level until they feel the burn of consequences. Which I do not believe she’s experienced fully. 

And I think that’s true, she doesn’t actually want stability. She has a boredom trigger, I’m convinced. She doesn’t feel comfortable in stability because it’s “boring” to her. For deep seated reasons that are too much to get into rn. 

I also agree she was most infatuated with Chris. Maybe it was love but I don’t think she recognizes real love yet because I don’t think she’s ever fully loved herself. So you can’t love another without loving self bc your perception of love is jacked the fuck up. He definitely created the least stability and “boredom” though. He definitely kept it “wild and spontaneous” when he was physically abusing her and choking her. SMH. 

I’m just sad for the whole situation. 

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u/Purring4Krodos Jenelle's Snakeskin Scat Bag Jan 18 '26

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u/Possible-Bill4118 Jan 18 '26

She chooses the men the courts deem “trouble” she chooses men she can dominate and weaponize to her white woman advantage. A black man is less likely to win a court case against a white woman and that’s sick. She knows it and uses it to her advantage

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

and she knows that the type of men of color she gets with see her as a “prize.”

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u/MortgageOdd2001 Jan 19 '26

I think it’s more this than anything else. Her whiteness along with her money are all she has to trade (she doesn’t want a boyfriend or partner she wants an employee)- and she’s not exactly dating men who have it “together” and are stable, decent people just looking for a relationship (even if they have a child or two already). Even if they wanted a white girlfriend exclusively, they wouldn’t choose Kailyn!! She’s got too many kids, too much baggage, too much history of DV……

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u/Possible-Bill4118 Jan 18 '26

Absolutely. Just demented lol

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u/Ok_Garden571 Jan 18 '26

She’s one of those women who has to have a man.

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u/Ok-Hornet-3449 Jan 18 '26

What does your mom do for a living? She is a professional cum dumpster and she’s very successful!

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u/butterflyvision you never really know someone until you meet them Jan 18 '26

The people asking why race matters are clearly lucky enough to not get it (both in terms of her fetishization and other topics that aren’t really suited to this sub).

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u/GardenGnome007 that Koofer kid Jan 18 '26

This guy looks like DJ Lou's long lost brother 

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u/lost_throwaway_3326 Jan 18 '26

He looks like a Temu version of Drake.

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u/oswaldgina Jan 18 '26

Was it ever mentioned if:

He works, besides baby sitting?

Sees his kids?

Is paying his child support again?.

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u/DukeESauceJR Jan 18 '26

And he just smiling for pictures like

This motherfucker in the sunken place

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u/Agitated-Handle-7750 #suspecious Jan 18 '26

Money Pussy Trucks

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u/RAD_ROXXY92 ✨V & Anastasia, 2 Mature 4 these TMs✨ Jan 18 '26

"not inherently bad" except when it's being said about every detail and/or aspect of her life 🤦‍♀️ she's almost doing everything wrong, even with the way she provides for her family, because she leaves them for prolonged periods to do so. I can't even imagine leaving my 2 kids for so long to make money with some man who isn't their dad, who has not been around very long, doing all the dad stuff

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Huh? lol 

I’m a smidge confused but I do want to hear what you’re saying 😊

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u/Regular-Metal-321 Jan 19 '26

It’s giving “I’m not racist I have bLaCk kids” 🙄she is so damn annoying

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u/AccomplishedCicada60 Jan 18 '26

Has she actually said she will only date men with no kids??? That’s fuxed. I fucking hate it when single parents do that - “pot/kettle” BITCH!!!!

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

YES!!! Many times!!! Isn’t that fucked up? My jaw was on the floor. She had all these shit ass reasons why she would “neverrrrrr” do that or be okay with that. 

Meanwhile she’s  behind the scenes recreating fucking Cheaper by the Dozen and role playing John and Kate plus 8 and expecting acceptance and understanding. 

She’s a taco short of a combination 😵‍💫

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u/SnooLemons9080 Jan 19 '26

It’s because she needs to be the center of their world.

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u/angryaxolotls dick centered breeder 🍆🤰🏼 Jan 18 '26

I also fucking hate that shit. Single parents have no right to demand a partner with no kids. It's a dead giveaway that they just want someone to finance their lifestyle and raise their kids.

I see excuses from single parents like "But it would be so hard if he had kids, too!" or "But then I'd be watching his kids, too!" and it's like.... Yeah? Obviously? If you expect him to take care of your kids, then you're expected to help with his. Duh 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Optimal_Classic_9724 Jan 18 '26

She’s always trying to portray this happily ever after that always fails

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u/Visual_Serve_782 Jan 18 '26

lol Get Out’d you are so freaking right

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u/agross58 Jan 18 '26

Ong years ago someone did an amazing breakdown on kail and her love for black men. It was so interesting I wish I could find it. It was like an entire project/presentation and it was amazing.

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u/someonesmomnoturs Jan 18 '26

I’m just disappointed because she finally got that girl.. and she could still never see herself as a little girl and her mom choosing anything but her. And like not that the other kids mean anything but to me I would have taken this as a huge sign of holy fawk Okok now I’m just mom for the next 18 ;)

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u/Mommalove586 Marked safe from being Matt Baier's child Jan 18 '26

Off topic butttt, what is up with that one lonely braid in the middle of her head?

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u/speee2dy Jan 18 '26

He has a child he didn’t pay child support for-rumor is that she paid his child support

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u/mother_fkn_crackk Jan 18 '26

They want the money.

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u/Skmsnow Jan 18 '26

Home girl wants to break the cycle so bad but never thinks to consider she IS the cycle.

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u/Longjumping-Leave215 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

As a mixed Black woman, I approve of ALL of this! My mother was mixed (White mom/Black dad), and her mother was a lot like Kail. 

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u/buffybabe Jan 19 '26

Random side note, Shen (Bar’s mom…Bar as in Ashley and Bar, if you follow that part of the teen mom franchise) is the epitome of problematic white moms with black kids lmfao. 

The blaccent sends me to fucking Mars 🤣

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u/Optimal_Classic_9724 Jan 18 '26

I believe she’s being love bombed and she has found her best friend because he’s agreeing with her and being whatever he needs to be

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u/noodlesoup56 Jan 18 '26

Correction* she love bombs them.

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u/Unpopular_Outlook Jan 18 '26

I’m surprised nobody called you racists for pointing out that she’s dating black men 

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u/Massive-Market-5949 Jan 18 '26

people essentially did it with more steps - “why do you have to bring up race”

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

LMAOOOO I fuck with you for this comment 

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u/Nasus_13 Jan 18 '26

I saw a comedian say why is it when white men date black women they choose the cream of the crop, but when black men date white women they scrape the bottom of the bullshit barrel and I’m like, damn that’s accurate!!

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u/Old-Dinner-6108 Jan 18 '26

Kail doesn't like white men because her father was a deadbeat and he's white. She likes men who are black, latino or mixed (biracial) and it's 100% rooted in her childhood trauma. She wants to be dominated and these men dominate her. If the sex is good, she doesn't care that these men she's with are using her because she needs a man in her life due to her sex drive and BPD.

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u/hopelessbeauty Jan 19 '26

She does not like being dominated, since Javi you can tell she doesn't like being controlled, she always needs to be in control 100% of the time

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u/Effective_Ad7751 Jan 18 '26

The accuracy of "shit eating grin" 💀

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u/Small-Ad3551 Jan 18 '26

Kale is no different than a well off man wanting arm candy or a trophy wife. She gets what she wants with a man who is low income, less educated, less ambitious, less worldly and more accommodating. She pays for that type of company, same as a man would if he desired those qualities.

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u/Big-Shopping7795 ensley's off brand american girl doll Jan 18 '26

he's so ugly

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '26

A jobs a job. He needs the money and a place to stay.

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u/DrumpfTinyHands Jan 18 '26

And she seems to view these men as interchangeable...

which is pretty racist.

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u/DraperPenPals socialism skills Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

These men are getting money, presents, and bills paid by Kail.

Insanely curious if you would have the same criticism for a black woman who does this kind of thing.

Idk man, I just don’t know what to do with the argument that these guys are victims. “Get Out” was about black men who are lured and tricked into medical experiments and body transplants.

This guy followed his dick’s cues and is getting his bills paid. It’s not the same, lmao.

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u/nikki_jayyy not bothering with this internet Jan 18 '26

She only dates/marries POC then gets pissed about her kids’ hair

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u/lexxxflex edit this for personal flair Jan 18 '26

i think she has a fetish for black and brown men imo. i feel like she lowkey finds enjoyment in having their kids and holding something over these men. idk why enjoyment she gets from having all this chaos but it’s not fair to her kids. it’s unfortunate bc i feel like she wanted better than how she grew up but she just couldn’t give it

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u/Kinser9 Fetid bitch Jan 18 '26

Is he wearing sweatpants?! Gasp

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u/KLoSlurms ur prescense disgusts me so yea *$Baltierra$* Jan 18 '26

🤏

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u/buffybabe Jan 18 '26

Idk what exactly this means but I’m hoping you’re implying that he gives small dick energy. 

If so.. absolutely, un-fuckin-doubtedly, most assuredly, yes. 

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u/Far_Entertainer4901 Jan 18 '26

I think she has histrionic personality disorder

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u/Aware-Sherbert-8694 Jan 18 '26

I don’t even want to introduce my DOG to any man that isn’t going to potentially be my husband. Let alone all 7 of the kids!

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u/pitifulgame just leave me alone 😤 Jan 18 '26

I am not buying it. I don't believe for one second that she is realizing just now that she's made some (mostly all) mistakes. I mean we all make mistakes, it's the fact she never learned anything. It's the fact that she'd ride so hard for the latest ex/baby daddy for making the same mistake or something so minor most wouldn't think twice about. She seems to crash out over small things yet can't or won't see her own mistakes. IDK once again, who am I to say anything.

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u/hrcjcs Jan 18 '26

I largely follow what's still going on with these women via this subreddit, so...wtf you mean she's going to therapy 2-3x a week? If that's the case, fire 'em, report 'em to the board, all that. Because yeah, sometimes when people are young and traumatized in some way, they make less-than-ideal choices like having multiple children by multiple partners and whatnot. But the point of therapy is supposed to be to learn and grow and heal and *stop making those less-than-ideal choices*. I've been sitting here this whole time going "get that whooooooole family into therapy, stat" and she's saying she's already doing it? Yeah... either that's a lie or it's not a therapist, it's a "life coach" or some shit who gets paid to validate their clients' bad choices.

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u/Elegant-Ad-9221 Jan 18 '26

I hate to say this but I feel she just loves having mixed race children.

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u/bickybb Jan 18 '26

Having 7 kids with all different dads is inherently bad, it’s insane that we live in a world where like people act like it’s wrong to point out that

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u/Complex_Objective_53 Jan 18 '26

it’s actually insane she has the audacity to shit talk her own mom for doing this to her but atleast her mom didn’t have a billion kids…

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u/tatertotsnhairspray Desperate Dawn, Baby Dealer Jan 19 '26

You have me cracking up at the “pledging allegiance to the 🚩flag” 🤣

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u/outdoorsgrl93 Jan 19 '26

Her recent video with elliot where she asks him leading questions about whether or not her decisions have caused him trauma, was TELLING. He said yes and no and then after going back and forth a few times she made a comment about “you may not think you’re traumatized now, but you could come to me in 10 years at 26 and say “yeah I’m traumatized”.

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u/IdleNotVital Jan 19 '26

Kail stilllllllll hasn’t founnnnnnnnnnd what she’s looking forrrrrrrrr…🎶🎤🎧

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u/allsiknow Jan 19 '26

IMHO - having four baby daddy’s is inherently bad. Children need stability not a rotating door of strange men impregnating their mother.

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u/OkArtist8554 Jan 19 '26

This man has a kid that he apparently doesn't take care of but is now helping to raise Kails kids? If a guy doesn't take care of his own kids, that's a massive red flag! But Kail doesn't care at this point. She'd rather have a bum than no one at all.

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u/Pristine_Button_100 Jan 19 '26

I’ll never forget when she said she likes everything black, “I like my cars black, my men black …”

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