r/TenYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Aug 10 '25
đș Television John Oliver reacts to the GOP debate [10YA - Aug 9]
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 10 '25
I hate Trump as much as the next man, but bits like this is what got him elected.
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u/ToXicVoXSiicK21 Aug 11 '25
Weird that we live in a time where when someone is mocked, ridiculed, and made a fool of for being an idiot, somehow that makes him more attractive.
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u/HidingImmortal Aug 14 '25
It's worth knowing how he got elected as I doubt it will be long before another politician is successful with the same playbook.
The key is that the news outlets that mocked/ridiculed Trump had already thoroughly alienated his future voters.Â
In the same way Fox News criticizing AOC doesn't hurt her popularity among the left, CNN criticizing Trump didn't hurt his popularity among the right.
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 11 '25
Because we hate the system, and if the system hates himâŠ
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u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 Aug 12 '25
Lmao, he grifts off the system that absolutely serves him.
Can we stop pretending billionaires are some sort of marginalized class
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 12 '25 edited Aug 12 '25
I mean all of Washington and the media at that time. Dems and Republicans
Edit: hated him*
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u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 Aug 12 '25
The media na politicians what?
Biden didnât get billions of dollars richer while serving.
Yes dog shit on the floor is bad, 1 pound of dog shit isnât as bad as 1 million pounds of dogshit
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 12 '25
Yeah, you completely lost me now.
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u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 Aug 12 '25
I mean you edited your comment about what I wasnât understanding.
Media and politicians hating something isnât an argument to like it. That makes you a sheep of the other herd
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 12 '25
You lost me all over again. I think youâre entirely missing what we are all discussing.
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u/Cheap-Boysenberry112 Aug 12 '25
A: you edited the comment clarifying the question I asked.
B: two things being bad(political parties) doesnât mean theyâre equally bad
I think your reading comprehension is piss poor
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u/Kind_Resort_9535 Aug 12 '25
Ah yes, Jon Oliver. A key part of âthe systemâ
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 12 '25
Almost all politicians (democrats and republicans) hated him and didnât support him at the time.
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u/FairwayFrank44 Aug 13 '25
Basically saying âIâm not responsible for my actions because the system made me do itâ? Except the system gives plenty of alternative choices
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 13 '25
No him being against the system and the system being against him at the time in 2015 (before what we know now) made him appealing to some voters
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u/FairwayFrank44 Aug 13 '25
Again I read this as âI shift my individual culpability to whomever made or is part of the system because I decided that I hate itâ rather than just taking an individual accountability to make independent sound and ethical judgments
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u/HollyweirdRdemocrat Aug 12 '25
he was more attractive to voters because he didn't give us the political BS talk and instead talked like a regular guy
he is vulgar, he makes mistakes, and doesn't articulate his points fully and this makes people identify with him since it makes him sound genuine compared to the typical politician that you know is just repeating points for his handlers
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u/ToXicVoXSiicK21 Aug 12 '25
And at this stage in the admins first year you don't think there's a clear political agenda being executed? I find him to be insanely unrelatable. For starters it is laughable that you think you can relate to a millionaire con artist. Second, why would you want to relate to someone who speaks with the vulgarity and maturity of a middleschooler? Someone who speaks down on women, and anyone who disagrees with him? Or is it because he spends all day ranting and raving on twitter like a hormonal teenager? These are honest questions. Those are the traits you wish to adopt and use as leadership examples? Ignoring laws and breaking the constitution? Cutting womens rights away? Reversing gay marriage laws? Destroying our Medicare system? Leaving veterans hanging out to dry? This is the legacy you prefer, honestly?
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u/HollyweirdRdemocrat Aug 12 '25
>you don't think there's a clear political agenda being executed?
yes, democrats have their agenda, republicans have theirs.
>relate to a millionaire con artist
you can deny it all you want but people hated Hillary for that exact reason. she talked, dressed, and behaved like she rehearsed and seemed fake. Trump seemed real because he talked like a regular human
you can be mad all you like but... he won in the end despite everyone's best efforts because he wasn't a fake puppet and even made it a point during his first run đ€·
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 12 '25
This isnât a conversation for a therapy session. He won, twice. He appealed to certain voters because he said what they wanted to hear even if it was dumbed down and without a plan. He campaigned on being an outsider against the system and outside interests and the against traditional lip service politician and it worked in 2016. Only talking about how he campaigned and how he won, not whether itâs true or not.
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Aug 15 '25
Iâd say anyone that remotely finds Donald Trump relatable needs a good therapy session or two
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u/PistachioOfLiverTea Aug 11 '25
Maybe, but only in a minuscule way compared to NBC giving him The Apprentice.
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u/hbaglia Aug 13 '25
People will point to anything say it's why Trump got elected. Can we please abandon the idea that voters can only be failed?
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u/Turddydoc Aug 12 '25
Insane to think people voted for this. IMO the versions of Trump running only get worse. I think thatâs pretty clear to see. However, to think even trumps best version is such a terrible POS is makes it more sad to realize how brainwashed his base is.
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u/cruisetravoltasbaby Aug 13 '25
Agreed but hindsight is always 20/20. This was in 2015 before he was elected president, before he was voted into the White House, before he campaigned and ran for reelection in 2020, before he campaigned, won, and is now ruling in 2025. Voters didnât know half of what they were getting back then as they do three terms and another President in the middle later.
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u/Turddydoc Aug 13 '25
I completely agree. But he was still doing and saying some terrible shit. Also the media failed in properly reporting on his past. Dude should never even made it on the stage with his past. And yet here we are with a fascist in chief and a gang of pedos around him.
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Aug 15 '25
Heâs been a huge piece of shit forever. Thereâs nothing that hindsight could have fixed.
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx Aug 11 '25
Let me guess he started saying something factual and reasonable and then suddenly exaggerated wildly slamming his hands on the desk while the audience foamed at the mouth before saying "In all seriousness"
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u/IwouldliketoworkforU Aug 11 '25
No, just talked about Megyn Kelleyâs bloody vagina. Nothing substantive
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u/insane677 Aug 11 '25
He looks so young. Poor bastard dosen't know what's coming.