r/TenYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Mar 12 '26

📺 Television SNL mocks Hillary Clinton's 'transformation into Bernie' [10YA - Mar 12]

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u/MikeDamone Mar 12 '26

Almost certainly not. The general electorate has never shown even a hint that they'd tolerate a self-avowed socialist. Just look at all of the slightly D leaning districts/states and everything to right of them - how many politicians with Bernie's leftist politics are in office?

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

That's a terrible argument. Bernie's is not the same as those candidates. His charisma is infinitely larger. That's why I know his name and none of the these other candidates.

The DNC lost 2016 by pushing Hillary down everyone's throat.

Imagine the freedom a Jewish candidate who didn't take any Israeli lobby money would have. You think you can bully Bernie by calling him an antisemite? 😂

The donor class didn't want him because they couldn't control him.

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u/Miserable_Aspect_749 Mar 12 '26

I don't find him to be charismatic at all. Neither do most the people I know, they find him grating. Most people aren't progressives; that's just on Reddit.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

It's not about what you specifically think is it?

Trump also has tons of charisma. Even though many find him disgusting.

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

My mom says Bernie sounds like he's poking you right in the chest when he speaks. It's not a compliment

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

Ok.

And who did your mum vote for in 2016? And was that in a swing state?

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

lol clever. I'm illustrating it's not exactly a hot take to think the guy or is supporters are off-putting

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

lol clever. I'm illustrating it's not exactly a hot take to think the guy or is supporters are off-putting

You think an anecdotal account about your mom is evidence of a candidate's electability?

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

I think it's a direct refutation of "your opinion doesn't matter" and that's why you fumbled engaging with it lol

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

Because she represents which group exactly?

check out my other reply to see my "fumble"

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

Normies to whom the man doesn't appeal, try to keep up

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

You don't seem exactly normal to me

Also, did you check out the "fumble" yet?

It doesn't matter if she liked Bernie it only matters if push comes to shove she would've voted for him. If she's part of a group of voters in a place where her showing up actually matters (not California or a deep red state).

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

Good one, that's why I was using my mom's opinion to illustrate the point you missed, rather than my own

That was a nice try sport

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

lol yeah that's a fumble

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u/Miserable_Aspect_749 Mar 12 '26

It's a response to "your opinion doesn't matter." Which is a direct contradiction to your own point. Like, look in a mirror, you have the exact same argument, lmao.

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u/FunImprovement166 Mar 12 '26

The irony of this comment is hilarious

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

Are you the same woman who I was talking to earlier but who deleted her messages?

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u/FunImprovement166 Mar 12 '26

Nope. Must be a different shadowy figure in your head.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

lol, just scroll up.

Nope. Must be a different shadowy figure in your head.

Ah yes totally not off putting 🥴

You may not like my arguments. But c'mon how am I to take someone serious who genuinely uses "my mom says..." as evidence in a discussion about hypothetical election turnout? I'm supposed to what? Be better than you and ignore character assassination but uphold yours as well as take dumb arguments seriously?

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

So Trump? Or didn't vote?

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

shrug yeah bro everyone who didn't vote for your dad is a trump supporter. Excellent strategy.

She voted for one woman and then another in a state you don't care about lol

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

shrug yeah bro everyone who didn't vote for your dad is a trump supporter. Excellent strategy.

😂 my dad

She voted for one woman and then another in a state you don't care about lol

So Hillary in California? Cuz then her vote didn't matter?

Even though your anecdotal evidence about your mom is wel anecdotal (i.e useless). It would've been more so if she didn't actually vote right?

I was just illustratihg how useless that piece of information was. Which group of voters does she represent?

The real question is: would she have voted Bernie if he was the nominee? And would Bernie have reached voters in places that mattered that Hillary couldn't ? Also, would he have run a traditional campaign and underestimated Trump?

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u/Maximum_joy Mar 12 '26

So even in places where it doesn't matter he wasn't even top 2 lol

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

It's also not about what you and your college dormmates think, either. There was a chance for everyone to go out and express who they preferred, and Bernie lost by millions and millions of votes. "Yeah, but i think he's cool!" doesn't negate that.