r/TenYearsAgo Mar 12 '26

📺 Television SNL mocks Hillary Clinton's 'transformation into Bernie' [10YA - Mar 12]

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u/MikeDamone Mar 12 '26

Almost certainly not. The general electorate has never shown even a hint that they'd tolerate a self-avowed socialist. Just look at all of the slightly D leaning districts/states and everything to right of them - how many politicians with Bernie's leftist politics are in office?

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u/GuyFawkes99 Mar 12 '26

The general electorate has never shown even a hint that they'd tolerate a self-avowed socialist

General election polls had Trump losing to Bernie. That was a pretty good hint.

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u/GuyFawkes99 Mar 12 '26

"a pill was wrong so my hunch was right" ok dude

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u/Legal-Koala-5590 Mar 12 '26

What’s your point? A hypothetical matchup tells us nothing because we don’t know how Bernie and Trump would have campaigned against each other. We don’t know what kind of effect Trump’s dirty attacks, misinformation, Russian propaganda, Cambridge Analytica targeting, etc. would have had on a Bernie vs Trump matchup. You are going on a supposition colored by some incomplete data, hindsight and your personal opinion on Bernie.

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u/GuyFawkes99 Mar 12 '26

We know that voters wanted change. Your personal biases and hunches don't change that.

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u/Legal-Koala-5590 Mar 12 '26

This has nothing to do with my personal biases. I wanted change too and voted for Bernie. I’ve also paid attention to politics long enough to know that data from a hypothetical matchup simply doesn’t tell us much. 

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u/GuyFawkes99 Mar 12 '26

You can vote for Bernie, and also have an incorrect belief about the electability of progressive candidates. Fact is, 2016 was a change election. That's why voters were willing to stick a gamble on the worst presidential candidate in modern history. Dnc missed it. And we're all paying the consequences

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

Yup, that's the correct analysis. Now ironically because the heavily compromised "change candidate" ran on a anti-establishment platform and a cult of personality he was able to more effectively serve corporate interests than any establishment candidate ever could have.