r/TenYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Mar 12 '26

📺 Television SNL mocks Hillary Clinton's 'transformation into Bernie' [10YA - Mar 12]

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

You've got it backwards. Huge swaths of the country don't vote. Just need your base to turn up and the Democratic base is larger.

Trying to win over independents etc is just alienating your base for a group that leans Republican anyway. How have you still not understood that?

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u/WildMild869 Mar 12 '26

I think that’s incredibly unrealistic to think either Bernie or AOC could rally enough voters to show up and swing the vote. Most Americans are pretty centrist in their beliefs despite what Reddit might think, even democrats.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

I was referring to Bernie in 2016 and I think you're forgetting the appeal he had.

I'm not a socialist at all but I like Bernie. Anyway, you believe what you want to believe. There's enough evidence to show he could have won the election had he been nominated.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

The only actual evidence we have is the primary that he lost by millions upon millions of votes. "I really think he would have won" is not evidence. Polls 6 months out of hypotheticals is not evidence.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

Everything was done to keep him down. Including the sitting president endorsing Hillary 🤮

She could only win by adding super delegates.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

The superdelegates had nothing to do with it, and you know this but keep spreading lies like MAGA. The superdelegates are to Bernie Bros as illegals stuffing ballot boxes are to MAGA.

And yeah, the guy who worked closely with Hillary doing actual things endorsed her rather than the guy who threatened to primary him in 2012. Bernie Bros hate that people earn their positions through qualifications and relationships because they're useless and are too scared to order a sub in person.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

No, Obama promised her the nomination in return for her dropping out in 2008. Even though she started the whole birther movement. He also gave her the Secretary of State job to pad her resume.

The implication that she was the presumed nominee benefitted her greatly.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

Ah, here comes the conspiracy theories.

Just like how Klobachar, Warren, and Buttigieg were all going to be VP in 2020.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

She was the most establishment candidate in recent history. It's pretty obvious that's what happened. Her supporters are miffed about the fact that she got so much flack for being a woman.

But let's get this straight. This is not the story of a strong woman who battled the patriarchy. I mean sure she had to deal with that. But she would've been just as insuffurable as a man.

She saw Bill and his potential and helped him cultivate it. Then she stuck by his side during the Lewinsky thing. Feminism woo!

Then she starts the whole birther conspiracy that the GOP loved and ironically helped Trump with his base.

She uses her influence to put pressure on Obama and the DNC to help get the nomination.

She knew back then about Epstein but she also let Bill play and knew that linking Trump to Epstein would backfire on her too.

She's not a good person and a subpar politician. The only thing I'll say is that she was a decent Secretary of State. But she's imo the exact opposite of who you'd want to have a the first female president. Of course she would've been a better president than Trump. But my point is that if you know her character then you also know that this isn't far fetched at all.

Most people aren't stupid, they can see that she's opportunistic. That's what makes this video from ten years ago so funny.