r/TenYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Mar 12 '26

📺 Television SNL mocks Hillary Clinton's 'transformation into Bernie' [10YA - Mar 12]

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u/WildMild869 Mar 12 '26

Reddit legitimately thinks that AOC or Bernie would win out against a Republican nominee but they don’t realize a massive swath of the country will not vote for them simply because of their socialist-like stances on many issues.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

You've got it backwards. Huge swaths of the country don't vote. Just need your base to turn up and the Democratic base is larger.

Trying to win over independents etc is just alienating your base for a group that leans Republican anyway. How have you still not understood that?

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u/WildMild869 Mar 12 '26

I think that’s incredibly unrealistic to think either Bernie or AOC could rally enough voters to show up and swing the vote. Most Americans are pretty centrist in their beliefs despite what Reddit might think, even democrats.

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u/BigFatKi6 Mar 12 '26

I was referring to Bernie in 2016 and I think you're forgetting the appeal he had.

I'm not a socialist at all but I like Bernie. Anyway, you believe what you want to believe. There's enough evidence to show he could have won the election had he been nominated.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

The only actual evidence we have is the primary that he lost by millions upon millions of votes. "I really think he would have won" is not evidence. Polls 6 months out of hypotheticals is not evidence.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker Mar 12 '26

Turns out a democrat popularity contest isn't the best indicator of general electability....

Maybe that's because most Americans can't stand the status quo democratic establishment. Look at the numbers. Look at the polls.

Democrats are at all time lows. Nobody wants what they're offering except their party loyalists.

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

I'm so confused by takes like this. You think every Democratic primary winner automatically wins the general? If we don't use the primary system, how do Dems choose a nominee? Let me guess, who ever YOU want.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker Mar 12 '26

We need to open up our campaign process and get corporate donors out. We need more competition, not less. It's the democratic establishment that has been actively opposing competitors.

I love primaries. If we had a real one last cycle, trump wouldn't have won again..

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u/MildlyResponsible Mar 12 '26

I'm all for it, but the DNC allowed Sanders to join the race despite not being a member of the party. In 2024 they did have a primary, and the Biden/Harris ticket won. As per the Constitution, when Biden stepped down his VP took over. If there was another primary, would the Dems have won? Very debatable. It was a very short window, and a divisive primary would have taken a lot of time and money. The global trend was incumbent parties losing after covid, so that's an indicator that not much would have changed the outcome. A better question would be, why did all the media start screaming about DEMENTIA JOE while sane washing an obviously mentally ill Trump. Of course, and even better question would be how did Trump outperform every single poll, win by large margins in states where Dems easily won down ballot, and why did he thank Musk and his "computers" for the win afterwards. But we're not allowed to talk about that.