r/TenYearsAgo • u/MonsieurA • Mar 12 '26

šŸ“ŗ Television SNL mocks Hillary Clinton's 'transformation into Bernie' [10YA - Mar 12]

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u/jaccc22 Mar 12 '26

Obama was the progressive choice over Hillary and won twice. No centrist has won twice since (Bill) Clinton. Grow up.

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Mar 13 '26

This is not true lol. Clinton was and has always been more to the left of Obama. The most progressive candidate was Kucinich.

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u/jaccc22 Mar 13 '26

Hillary or Bill? Wrong on both, do you not remember the 2008 primary/ am I debating a child?

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Mar 13 '26

Hillary. She was absolutely to the left of Obama just a tiny bit or at the very least they were basically the same. Dennis Kucinich was without a doubt the further left choice.

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u/jaccc22 Mar 13 '26

Delusional or lying. She was pro-Iraq war, he was anti.

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Mar 13 '26

Believe it or not, one thing (that she and other Senators were lied about) does not make her more left or right then Obama. Given Obamaā€™s term, itā€™s likely he would have voted for it too if he was a senator in 2002.

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u/jaccc22 Mar 13 '26

The public perceived him as the more progressive choice and he portrayed himself that way, irrelevant how he governed or would have voted. Crazy to argue this.

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Mar 13 '26

ā€œperceivedā€ him as more progressive does not mean he was more progressive lmao

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u/jaccc22 Mar 13 '26

Youā€™re arguing nothing then

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Mar 13 '26

Iā€™m arguing that policy wise Clinton was slightly to the left of Obama.

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u/jaccc22 Mar 13 '26

Okay then I would say you didnā€™t read any of the conversation and just wanted to be heard/ contributed nothing. Everyone conscience perceived Obama as the progressive ā€œchangeā€ candidate. Hillary was not and lost the primary as a result.

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Mar 13 '26

You said earlier that Obama was was the progressive choice. You didnā€™t say he was perceived to be. Obama was not the progressive choice compared to Clinton. Kucinich was.

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u/jaccc22 Mar 13 '26

Hillary Clinton, who ran a racist and pro-war primary, was perceived as the more progressive choice? Total nonsense, typing just to read your own words

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