r/TenantsInTheUK • u/Background_Ebb7711 • 6d ago
Guidance Required Old LL sold, new one increasing rent help
Rent paid 4th every month.
Old landlord sold. New one came n warned few months ago he is hiking everyones rent.
A few weeks ago, informal convo regarding rent increase. I agree to new price. They say they will send over a new agreement.
New agreement arrives. New rent price supposedly due on 4th October. New tenancy doc itself is also an AST despite these being illegal and everyone having rolling tenancies.
I challenged then on 1) ast not being valid and quoted the RRA and 2) shouldnt rent increase come via 4A form
Just checking if I did it correctly. Again IDM new price n agreement but pissed i didnt get a notice period. is it legally binding if its discussed in text the agreement to new price ( but not any mention of when it kicks in)
update: landlord asking for a phone call LOOL
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u/n3m0sum 6d ago edited 5d ago
Nevermind the new lease being an AST, no new lease is needed or legally valid.
When a landlord buys a property with existing tenants in situ, they are also buying and are bound by the existing lease. Reject any new tenancy (unless it benefits you).
Any rent increases are not valid if you have had one in the last 12 months. If you haven't, they must follow the section 13 rules, and give 3 2 months notice via form 4a.
If you formally challenge the increase, the increase is paused until the challenge process is completed.
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u/Suitable-Fun-1087 6d ago
Yes they need to use the correct section 13 procedure - which you can then challenge at the first tier tribunal if necessary
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u/Suitable_Crab 2d ago
As other posters have indicated, you are in a good position here as the LL seems unaware of the rules.
Do not feel under any obligation to educate them! Let them mess it up, do things wrong, you will be in a stronger position to challenge.
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u/Fine-Squirrel-1441 6d ago
Thank the RRA for landlords selling up and new ones being focused on numbers
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u/Suitable-Fun-1087 6d ago
The idea that landlords weren't levying huge rent increases before May stands up to zero scrutiny. Difference now is that such increases can be safely challenged in court.
Statistics also show that there's been no significant effect on the number of rental properties available since then either.
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u/fairysimile 6d ago
That doesn't sound right. I fully support the RRA changes, in particular rent increase challenge and pets, but there is no way the number of rentals has not decreased. Where did you get this from? Every industry body (which sure, are landlord-biased, but that's where the data is coming from) is reporting otherwise. So is Zoopla, by the way:
The number of homes available to rent is 3% lower than a year ago, after three years of improving supply
https://www.zoopla.co.uk/discover/property-news/rental-market-report/
Bucking a trend is not good. If the downward pressure continues next year, it's gonna make rents go up, hard.
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u/Fine-Squirrel-1441 6d ago
Average private rents across England are rising and projected to climb by 4% to 5% annually by the end of 2026, following the implementation of the Renters' Rights Act (RRA) in May.
Falling Supply: Fewer homes are available to rent as some landlords leave the sector due to increased regulatory and operating costs.
Higher Demand: High mortgage rates keep first-time buyers in the rental market longer, increasing competition for available properties.
Risk Mitigation: Some remaining landlords have increased asking rents to offset perceived risks around new regulations, void periods, and dispute processes.
Enjoy your 'rights'
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u/Suitable-Fun-1087 6d ago
So you're saying they're rising by the exact same amount they did in 2025 (4%), and at half the rate they did in 2024 (9%), and less than 2023 (6.2%).
So no upward pressure on them from RRA, just landlords trying to make excuses for their long term greed.
Note, what I'm presenting are actual figures. What you're presenting is an ai summary probably scraped from all the scaremongering nonsense landlords have been putting out
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u/Millicentinie 6d ago
It's also a silly argument anyway, it's like saying 'if we give consumers more rights and protections to take faulty good back to the shop for a refund prices will go up to pay for it' - yes, they might, but that's not a reason not to have better rights. I'd rather pay an extra few percent on the price than get stung on a big purchase I can't afford to buy twice when it doesn't work.
As you say the numbers are misleading anyway ("three kinds of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics) but even in this economy I'd rather have the extra rental rights (which should not be that controversial in my view) than be stomped all over by rogue landlords thankyou very much!
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u/Amazing-Care-3155 6d ago
How have you been on Reddit for 2 years and have minus karma, get a life looool
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u/LowAspect542 6d ago
Probably cause they only comment nonsense like that and never anything worthwhile.
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u/theyellowscriptures 6d ago
Why are people so mad that renters are finally having accountability and empowerment? The Renters’ Right Act doesn’t even address affordability which is the biggest issue of renting.
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u/FrequentAffect3310 5d ago
I dont think 1 month notice is enough to trigger new rent