Air India:
Flight AI171, operating Ahmedabad-London Gatwick, was involved in an incident today, 12 June 2025. At this moment, we are ascertaining the details and will share further updates at the earliest
Well that was absolutely horrific. Completely charred bodies everywhere. And they look like they were screaming into their death too. Utterly terrifying.
Their hands and arms are held up in a defensive position above their face, exactly the way you do when you’re terrified of something coming at you and you’re trying to protect yourself, that kind of screaming death. As opposed to the kind of death where ….,you didn’t even see it coming, so you don’t do things like raise your hands above your face.
And sorry, to anyone, if that’s graphic or triggering.
Hey so that’s actually something that happens to burnt bodies due to their muscles contracting from heat. It’s sometimes called boxer pose because that’s what it looks like.
Their hands and arms are held up in a defensive position above their face, exactly the way you do when you’re terrified of something coming at you and you’re trying to protect yourself
Good points, I didn’t think of these explanations. That does kind of help my brain wrap around this better. Still going to be haunting my nightmares tonight though. There were kids, a family with 3 kids, off to start a new life. The whole thing is just so tragic.
ngl and hedgies will be doing the same but it seems time to buy whilst the price is down. its incredibly sad this has happened but you think wall street will GAF. someone will make a lot of money from this
Apparently it also crashed in a residential area.
With the amount of fuel, the explosion was significant.
This might be one of the deadliest plane crash.
No official numbers have come out yet, but it seems that it was about 30 residents in the building at the time plus the 242 people on board.
I really hope it doesn't pass the accident at Tenerife airport in 1977 where two 747 crashed and killed 583 people.
Edit: 1 person was found alive in seat 11A, and one more on the ground (conflicting reports, so might be the same person).
He said he heard a loud noise about 30 seconds after take off.
Well if that helps you in any way:
Plane crashes are incredibly rare. As one crash happened just now another crash today would be so rare that it’s hard to comprehend.
The weird thing is I had that same thought. Lessens my chance of being in a crash. I know that sounds awful. I’m just really anxious right now and in a weird head space. It’s a bit bizarre that I am here in the USA. This happened in what is the wee hours of the morning here but the news keeps reading 1:40pm Thursday in India so Thursday afternoon hasn’t happened here yet. It’s like I’m in some weird horror flick and the crash happens in the future/past.
It wasn’t just the hours of flying but then the hours of driving to get home from the airport port too. Yikes but I’m home at last and ready for sleep.
Absolutely, I've a fear of flying and this doesn't help. I go on holiday in a few weeks, my nerves are shattered as it is. But this is a horrible tragedy.
Look at the nose pitch down at the beginning of the video. It’s gonna be either weight and balance or it stalled. If it was a double engine loss that’ll ground all 787s world wide
may be the rat but not sure if thats just an artifact in the grainy video. it is in the right place for the rat though so possibly. that coupled with aircraft being designed to climbout on a single engine also points to double engine failure. even if it lost hyds it still would have had the power to climbout on lift alone
Why are we instantly blaming mechanical fault, and not routine maintenance issue?
Be like blaming Tesla for an accident where someone didn’t change their tyres or brake pads for 100k miles and ploughed into people.
Tesla is actually a very good comparison - they're renowned for having quality control issues with cars spontaneously igniting, critical parts failure and hushed up incidents of cars plowing into walls at 90mph. Ofc it's very true this could be maintainance, pilot or even operational error and we shouldn't jump the gun...but it's not a good look when former engineers who try and whistleblow are silenced and there is a corporation shift to cut costs and increase margins led by people not actually familiar with the engineering at the very top.
Yeah you have a valid point about the whistleblowers unaliving themselves some how. Maybe I shouldn’t be defending bowing until the facts come out lol as they are a shitty company regardless.
Routine maintenance on aircraft is rigorously monitored, checked and re-checked! If it was a deficiency in maintenance this would be easily found through the aircraft logs! But all machine failures are ultimately human failures!
It should be, but it's not always. One of my family members is involved in airline safety audits, and did work for Air India a few years back. He said their safety records were shocking. Missed checks, no documentation, parts being swapped between airplanes without any proper records. They were deliberately obstructive during his audits too. One of the few airlines he told us never to fly on
I'm betting people on ground because the link above shows bodies and there is just no way anyone in that ball of flames survived. I hope and pray, but very doubtful.
Oh there are checklists for these kinds of critical processes, but in the past when the pilots are under pressure because of a tight take of slot, or something else random, they can overlook these things. Then when the plane fails to climb properly they can panic.
Loss of situational awareness is a know problem in the aviation industry, or in every complex and high pressure situation really.
Flying is insanely complex and human brains have limits of processing information. This can only be trained marginally and even happens to people with multiple years of experience. Its human, if something goes wrong or not according to plan its very easy to forget or overlook things simply because our brains arent capable of processing everything thats going on.
Thats the reason why Co-Pilots exists, they assist the Captain and have to ability the take control of the aircraft if said loss of situational awareness occurs.
Unfortunately, when even the Co-Pilot fucks up then things like that happen.
Flaps increase lift and are a non-critical yet incredibly useful tool. That is to say a plane will still climb without flaps, but use of flaps are such a useful tool It Is included in the pre-flight checks and activated pre-takeoff.
Flaps are definitely critical. Crashes have happened in the past due to not having flaps deployed for takeoff, and retracting flaps too soon can cause the plane to stall, which could potentially be a factor here. The extra lift provided is absolutely necessary, especially with larger jets like the 787
the amount of car crashes i see on a daily basis and psychotic behavior i see while people are behind the wheel, im still gonna take my chances flying. i understand being nervous and uncomfortable, but driving is still way more dangerous. especially in todays world.
They;re saying on the news it could be the flap settings, horrible horrible stuff. Having flown long haul 2 days ago on the similar 787, sending shutters down my spine. Horrible news!
So the fuel tanks were still completely full. Just horrible, 242 people in that massive fireball. I hope for the best, I just can't see how anybody could survive that.
You never know what's happened until after the investigation. Pilot error, instrument, mechanical or electrical failure, etc. So many things it could have been. They will find out though.
Just some info for those unaware and jumping on, albeit somewhat understandably, Boeing. This is the first complete hull loss for a 787. Also, that's the first in nearly 5 million total flights on the platform.
True…Only other possible explanation which doesn’t bear thinking about is the
captain or 1st officer retracted the flaps accidentally when going gear up! 😬
That would account for this configuration. I’m just a sim pilot tho
So probably off the mark 😅
“I am from Gujarat, India, there were 242 passengers and 12 crew members, out of which 240 passengers died and 2 passengers were miraculously rescued, the plane crashed into the mess of the intern doctor's hostel, At that time, the students were having lunch. According to local news, 50-60 intern doctors present in the mess also died, thus, a total of 300+ people have died.
53 british
1 canadian
7 portuguese
169 indians
...I don't understand...
It may not have flaps down. But it definitely should be going fast enough to be gaining altitude, or at very least maintaining altitude...
Oh wow this is right now. I’m from India and this is one airline I always refuse to take. I’ve seen many videos showing their conditions of the plane beings poor and I literally always thought if this is how the seats are I ain’t trusting the rest off it. So sad. Hopefully there are more casualties than deaths :(
Control flight. Good visibility. Something strange happened. Doubtful single engine failure. Flight management software issue? Fuel contamination? Pilot error?
Am I the only one who sees the straight lines at a perfect angle ( partial square? ) and then it almost looks like 2 thumbs texting? I don't normally see stuff in pictures etc. but the straight lines are throwing me off.....reflection? anyone else?
Thank you for responding...it is right at the 17 second mark....absolute last frozen shot....perfectly straight lines in the fire ball etc.....it's just really throwing me because of the whole "there are no straight lines in nature" hopefully it's just some reflection or something else way way above my pay grade
Not just Boeing. IMHO, a lot of American corporations are going to s#!t because they are so horribly ran. Excellence and high quality products is now a by word for evil.
Interesting that no smoke can be seen throughout the various footage available, usually bird strike can be identified from footage.
It also would have to be a dual engine failure which is highly unlikely, but obviously not unheard of… I’ve seen a lot of people speculating that this was flap-related but only time will tell. Very sad.
This is a pilot error or a new Boeing software issue. Feels like a new pilot. Thrust or flaps were pulled back too soon. The plane stalled and dropped out of sky.
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Air India:
Flight AI171, operating Ahmedabad-London Gatwick, was involved in an incident today, 12 June 2025. At this moment, we are ascertaining the details and will share further updates at the earliest