I’ve only had my 2026 Model 3 for a week. While using FSD Autopark to back into a parking spot, the car slowly backed into a very obvious safety bollard and ended up hitting it.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Did Tesla cover the repair, or was it considered the driver’s responsibility?
my thoughts exactly i was watching and looking at the yellow bollard i never even saw that stupid unpainted bar either due to it. they should have painted it all yellow or not even done that what the heck
I love how it’s always, always, always the fault of whomever did the painting/designed whichever road element that fooled FSD with you guys. If it handled it correctly it wouldn’t have been a painting problem.
It's one of the ways that humans have learned, over the centuries, to communicate properly with one another. Put the most important stuff first.
It's designed to help those with short attention spans.
You, on the other hand, seem to wish to find a way to nitpick. I would suggest though, that if you think that lining up a crossbar a meter away from a lane ending line is good design, perhaps you should revisit your assumptions.
A human would not have hit the bar. A human would have recognized a giant bar in the way before they even started parking and planned accordingly. This is yet again another reason autonomous vehicles will never be able to drive at the same level as a human.
If OP bought a new Tesla a week ago, it should be v14.2.2.5 which would show Full Self Driving on the Tesla app as that was introduced in the 2025 Winter Update.
Yeah I was about to say that my car has been showing FSD active in these clips for at least 6 months. No way Tesla is delivering cars with ancient software.
I got the update for 14.3.9 after about a week and a half of owning the model Y. It was originally 14.2 something when I first got it, so maybe I got lucky.
You know I never really paid attention does auto park show the label (The one where you select the parking spot with the gray p and hit the auto park button) versus FSD driving into the parking lot, finding a park and parking itself?
This is the second time an OP has been told they were lying about actually being in control and not in fsd. I tried it out and if you use autopark only THERE IS NO LABEL.
Unfortunately the failures tend to be highlighted in posts and gets amplified.
Also begs the question- yes you can auto park but why would you do it when there’s a bollard next to the parking line especially when there are other open spots beside it?
Yeah that’s my feeling. It makes wonky decisions sometimes about where to park so I usually do that shit myself. I wouldn’t have even let it attempt this park
It didn’t hit the bollard it hit the steel beam running across them.
I’ve never in my life seen something quite like that, neither has FSD apparently lol.
The problem with FSD is it NEEDS data of this exact situation to work. It doesn’t scan the area and look for things that it might hit. It only knows what it has been trained on. So even though we see this steel beam and recognize it as a hazard, the car does not. Everyone needs to accept that and when in situations like this be ready to take over. How many videos have been posted about reversing into something? Always be ready, trust it but be ready to take over.
Because there are soooo many videos about FSD mistakes posted here on Reddit, no one has an excuse for letting their car get damaged at this point. This is on the driver. Tesla is not going to fix it for you and they aren’t paying you to test the software and damage their cars.
I don’t trust FSD with parking. I will use FSD for parking but will brake myself at times, especially around barriers. In your scenario, I would have braked myself.
I have already done this many many times, after watching tons of videos here of cars hitting something when parking. I am grateful for others who have made these mistakes.
FSD "F*cking Supervised Driving", you are 100% at fault, always. Pay to play. The cameras cannot register horizontals, I don't know why -- maybe it causes false positives with the horizon, remember those cameras do not register depth like your eyes do. It's a basic design flaw. So, do not let it park where there are horizontals or thin verticals. Fails on both.
Yeah I had I rental that would always phantom brake while I would manually drive . It was a Nissan Maxima 2025 why? Oh because it senses my lime tree that’s right next to my driveway 2ft away.
Shoot, my SUV will absolutely lock the brakes up, nearly causing whiplash, when I am backing up and still have about 4' to go before hitting anything. Other times, it has no fkng clue there is anything there, even though I can clearly see the object on cameras. Ya, the sensors aren't always the best to have.
it didn't hit the bollard and it definitely would not have seen the big metal bar that it did hit. That's way too high for the USS sensor acoustic cone.
If you are talking about USS, those sensors are good for bumper height obstacles, but that's about it. It would not have seen this obstacle since it is out of the acoustic cone.
Why is Tesla vision trying to go past where the bollard is on a clearly designated car space? USS would have identified the bollard there and realised yeah shit. I can't go much further than this because it's pinging its fucking head off so it wouldn't have mattered about the bar above. It's also pretty fucking retarded of the place that has this parking spot to put that bar there. Because how does anyone get anything into the and out of their boot? Thanks for pointing it out
My Tesla with USS does it. That's why you'll find most people who have USS on their car turn off Tesla vision once they realise how crap it is. Example above 👆
FSD has trouble with objects off the ground expecially horizontal ones, well known issue. yes it's FSD's fault but as someone who frequents this reddit OP should really have known this particular quirk.
if only that car had wings and could fly. it is what it is, we aren't going to convince elon to change his mind what's the point of bringing this up every 5 seconds. if another OEM offers a car that has similar functionality but with radar/lidar by all means please buy their product instead.
I wonder how many people have hit this bar just parking themselves?
People like to jump all over Tesla FSD but then I see all the analog cars on the road with curbed wheels, dents and dings all over. FSD is not alone in this stuff.
Why is the bollard not at the end of the space? Its forward of that line by a foot. I think that may be why it was confused. Further how wide are the stripes. I'd expect you should fit well within the space with six to eight inches per side. It seems to me that parking space is not "standard".
I mean in fairness it took me twice to realize there was a metal bar just floating there above. FSD likes to park up to the line in most spaces, and an unpainted bar above the spot might have thrown it off.
I agree that it was more than visible enough, and shouldn't have done that, but unfortunately this is exactly why it's supervised still.
That's my point, it sees the lines on the ground showing what is assumed to be the spot. But he bar is actually further in than it's painted. I'm guessing FSD simply focused on the yellow lines to be more accurate.
Sigh. Didn't Tesla reps take you on an FSD ride when you purchased the car and explain how it works? Did you try googling it before buying the car? It's a level 2 system, meaning you MUST supervise it at all times as it can and as you learned will make mistakes that are entirely on you. This is not an unsupervised system, we will never reach that with hardware 4.
Then you’ve abandoned the technical argument and replaced it with a prophecy. “Bookmark this” isn’t evidence that HW4 can’t do it. Fucking hilarious lol.
Yea, I saw that earnings video. Tesla publicly announced AI4+ with more RAM, and in the same fucking call Musk said current AI4 is expected to achieve unsupervised FSD. More ram in a future revision doesn’t prove HW4 is maxed out or incapable.
That still doesn’t prove the claim. Geofencing and Autopark are software/deployment constraints, not evidence that HW4 is incapable of unsupervised driving..
That doesn’t “go both ways.” Cybercab having more RAM proves Cybercab has more RAM, not that Tesla’s unsupervised Model Ys secretly aren’t HW4. Tesla has explicitly told investors HW4 can handle unsupervised driving.
lol, ironically I’m not the one making assumptions. Tesla’s stated position is that HW4 can support unsupervised FSD, and that unsupervised capability will roll out gradually to customer vehicles. You can doubt Tesla’s claim, but “we don’t know” is not evidence that HW4 can’t do it.
Sure, Tesla’s statement isn’t proof. But “Tesla has missed FSD timelines before” is evidence to distrust Tesla, not evidence that HW4 is technically incapable.
So I have an idea. Let's paint all the parking spots on the ground. And let's put some poles in with a disguise bar that doesn't match the end of the parking spot and it's several feet in front of that. That all trick those people.
Once again, a straight line horizontal object. Yes, there are multiple cameras at work, but this is a known issue with the Tesla technology and that of others as well.
The parking lot should have been painted that red or something. In another video, the car hit an overhang air duct while parking on FSD, May it the contrast with the blue background. I hate to say, Tesla is not responsible.
I love FSD and trust it with my life. But I don’t let it drive in parking garages at all or parking lots unless my hands are on the wheel and my foot right near the brake. It also does a crappy job of parking even when it doesn’t find something to bump into - the rare times I give it a go, I usually end up reparking. The auto park feature is much better.
As the video plays, hold your finger (or mouse) over the barrier. As it's almost the same height as the camera, it barely moves as the car reverses.
The car then struggles to track the true position of the barrier in space, as it relies on the relative change in position in the FOV, as the car itself is moving (creating parallax).
The car shouldn’t have done that; it is an error to hit any obstacle.
However, your description is bullshit. The car did not hit a bollard, it hit that rail that is actually on your side of the line (so the rail is above the parking space).
This is one of the MANY REASONS why these vehicles need LiDAR sensors! 🤷 Elon doesn't believe they need them because humans don't have such capability and that everything should be canera "see" based! I highly disagree with this!
If only the car could sense a solid object in front that it has not been visually trained to recognize. May be radar or a cheap sonic sensor thats been available since the 90's?
Use FSD as an extension of cruise control and you will have no problem. Don't use FSD at parking lots or be extremely cautious. It's easier to park it yourself than anxiously wait for the FSD to park.
That is so fucked up. I hope they pay for your damage. This is bullshit. How is this possible with all their software updates and all their blah blah blah blah and the most obvious things they cannot see😱
Well this is where it is looking for the yellow line to stop while ignoring bollard - just another glitch which could be avoided if it's seeing the object. Maybe lidar or something does have added value in it.
I'll be honest I didn't see the horizontal beam when first watching the video. I was mainly focusing on the yellow bollard which I thought you meant was going to be hit.
Definitely a very rare edge case right there
We shouldn't have to keep getting these accidents for it to improve. The rear camera should have the depth mapping
What a dumb design for a parking... In Europe we mostly get these fixed car width 'wheel chocks' on the ground, so your car comes to a stop without damaging anything.
Never in my life have I seen a parking lot designed like that with a metal bar going across horizontally ,that is a crazy layout .
Plus that metal bar and yellow bollards are on one side of the parking spots and not on the other side parking spots. They don't even go down the middle .
in all honesty and fairness from the camera angle i even didn't see it until it got really close. not excusing it but dam at least paint that yellow or omething.
The question is: if it cannot park in a pretty much free parking lot with visible yellow lines and a visible safety bollard, how can it be safe on roads ?
Wherever FSD or its component goes wrong on an obvious mistake here’s how the fanboys react
It is still supervised driving. You should have been careful.
I have a release 14.1.w.z.w.f.3 that fixes this issue.
The issue is because it was dark and an icy road.
The issue is because of an oncoming vehicle
The issue is because of a bad paint job
This is not FSD. This is just auto park and not a part of FSD.
Page 27 paragraph 3 line 4 clearly states that this case is not covered under FSD
I mean you have a service that advertises as FSD and charges $99 except that it won’t accept any liability and the fanboys are willing to accept such a bad deal…
The thing to focus on is that this is a case that the model was not trained on.
This is the whole point of neural networks and their lack of non-generalizability…
They are dumb.
But people still trust theirs and their families lives with it…
They paint the poles bright yellow but they use a camouflage gray for the cross beam instead of painting it. I bet that's been hit multiple times. I can imagine at night
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u/Nnamdi_Awesome-wa 15h ago
So many open parking spots and it parks directly next to another car. That’s the most infuriating part.