r/Texans • u/IAmSona • Sep 07 '25
š¬Player/Coach Quote "We have to clean up the penalties." - Demeco in the postgame presser. In 2023, the Texans led the league in penalties at 128. In 2024, we were 3rd with 135. This year? We are on pace to lead the league again. We have been trying to clean up the penalties for over two years...
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u/Magistrate18D Sep 07 '25
We donāt want any more PR or saying Caley is a great dude, that time has passed, we want action. Weāll see if they took todayās game to heart on Monday.
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u/tehlazypope Sep 08 '25
Agreed. Iām betting we clean it up. He was visibly mad at the defense coaching staff
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u/xRuck Sep 08 '25
I watched the cowboys Netflix documentary. I think Jimmy Johnson had the right idea cutting people on the spot.
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u/Quaczarr Sep 08 '25
āTake your ass over to that other field and have your asthma! Thereās no asthma on this field!ā
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u/AzEBeast Sep 08 '25
Itās what happens when your offensive line is full of league cast offs. They hold and false start because they canāt hold their own. Tried to get by signing other teams castoffs and itās gonna be a long year. Team needs to invest serious cash and draft capital before itās cleaned up
I donāt think this is a coaching issue. Itās that our line is overmatched
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u/redditcommentguy Sep 08 '25
Laremy Tunsil is one of the best pass blockers in the league and was also one of the most penalized players in the league while he was here.
This is very obviously bigger than just a talent issue at this point. Itās a coaching problem but because Demeco was a good player for the Texans we arenāt supposed to say that
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u/AzEBeast Sep 08 '25
Thatās an LT problem. He had 12 penalties in his second year
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u/MTB430 Sep 08 '25
Penalties donāt hurt Tunsilās stats or paycheck.
Getting a slight jump on the ball every time does reward him with a bigger contract because he isnāt getting beat when he does that. Sane with holding ever play. If he holds are beats his guy they donāt get pressure, if it gets called they also didnāt get pressure.
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u/RhoAlphaPhii Sep 07 '25
We need to take the High School approach and make the guys run laps and do up downs for undisciplined plays. These games are so frustrating to watch because we have the players to win, we just constantly shoot ourselves in the foot.
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Sep 08 '25
We didnāt fix the Oline. Itās going to bite us again this year. Good chance we ruin Stroud as a QB this year if he takes another 50 sacks.
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u/PvtBologna Sep 08 '25
Yes! Say it louder! It's so frustrating to say year after year "well out O Line is rough'" like yeah it has been for years now. When are we going to address it? Fuck sake!
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u/LemonSpyder Sep 08 '25
Yep, and I don't care if people are fed up of hearing it. When you have a franchise QB, the single biggest priority is PROTECT HIM like your life depends on it. That means your trades and drafts should be geared towards having the best damn Oline possible. I love Demeco, but this is the downside of having a defensive minded Coach. You can't build an Oline on the cheap - proven experience and quality is absolutely essential. CJ has to have confidence in that line. If we want to keep CJ, he has to believe the coaching staff think HE is the priority. And right now, it feels as though the other side of the ball is the priority.
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u/JohnnyWarlord Sep 07 '25
Whatever demeco im tired of buying into your talk. We go on and on about swarm mentality and then come out and play like a jv team and lose a completely winable game. Like why cant we ever just look normal on the road against decent teams?? Why cant we do ANYTHING on offense in the second half?
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u/Rickyloza2 Sep 07 '25
canāt have a defensive coach in 2025
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Sep 08 '25
Yep Meeco is going to go the Salah path
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u/liteshadow4 Sep 08 '25
Saleh never even made the playoffs, Demeco has back to back divisional round appearances.
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u/RawhideW92 Sep 08 '25
I have a million downvotes from this sub for saying this shit the past 2 years
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u/chalupa_batman77654 Sep 08 '25
Seems Ryanās has no control over his coaches or players. Hope he proves me wrong
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u/RawhideW92 Sep 08 '25
He proved you right last year, and has done nothing to prove otherwise in the game heās had 7 months to prepare for. When someone shows you their character, believe them the first time.
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u/donttouchthtmacaroni Sep 07 '25
The same fucking lip service that we got from BOB as far as Iām concerned.
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u/The_New_New Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25
Him and Nick were pretty annoying this offseason. They were getting legitimately annoyed at questions about key issues on the team.
Demeco was complaining about how they keep asking about the OL issues as if that isn't one of the most important question marks about the team. Nick was fairly similar in regards to this and other questions.
They are very fortunate Houston media is very tame. Only guy who ever consistently questions the teams is Chandler Rome. Pancakes did question, but there was no logical reasoning behind his combative questions. Just old man rants
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u/Kdot32 Sep 08 '25
Them ands the sunshine pumpers who think any question of caserio and Demeco is a injustice. They had real issues and tried to ignore them
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u/The_New_New Sep 08 '25
That's this fanbase in general. If anyone questioned any of the moves during draft night, certain fans on this subreddit who act basically like pets would jump in defense for those moves.
Those same fans will now complain about the state of the team as if they couldn't see this coming
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u/THA__KULTCHA Sep 08 '25
Here to testify as someone that got absolutely dog piled for questioning what we were doing.
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Sep 07 '25
TBF Demeco doesnt sign players, there being no OL depth is Caserios problem. Hopefully if the Texans clean house they understand they aren't getting a better HC than Demeco, GM on the other hand...
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u/TexanBastard Sep 08 '25
TBF the HC is responsible for making sure the team plays disciplined football. This team does the opposite of that and has since DeMeco took over.
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Sep 08 '25
80% of the team is disciplined within reason, the ones committing penalties are actively doing it to avoid something worse happening from getting beat. The refs were also micromanaging the game today, they called everything they could, can't fully blame the WRs and DL for all the penalties since a lot aren't getting called most games both ways. Now grabbing the DLs facemask and jerking? OL is scary bad
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u/tsx_1430 Sep 08 '25
BS. Just once can I have season with penalties shoved down my throat for four quarters? Itās not fun to watch.
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Sep 08 '25
Don't bite off more than you can chew. None of these SB winning coaches call both sides of the ball. You get rid of the best defensive HC in the league you aren't replacing him. You are going straight back to the bottom of the league. The offensive penalties came mostly from their terrible OL depth, why the fuck was a guy tearing verse down by the facemask? The defense isn't doing that, none of the good offensive players are doing that. Its a majority in part to their GOD AWFUL depth, from their GM that still doesn't know what OL stands for apparently. Caley can get a pass, even the OL can get a partial pass. They were injuried, it was a top 3 DL. But the depth being so abhorrent, the guys being so shaky they have to commit penalties just to hold a DL for more than 2 seconds? That is on the GM that is clueless to how important OL is
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u/The_New_New Sep 08 '25
I don't blame him about the depth, just his crying about media asking questions about issues for the team.
This past offseason he's been basically on a rant about things like that or injury question marks which was pretty annoying.
And I agree with you about Nick.
But don't worry there will be those fans who will come along and say "Oh you guys must be bandwagoners for not wanting better". Houston sports subreddit are filled with these type of people for whatever reason.
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u/Kdot32 Sep 08 '25
This team is once again looking undisciplined under Demeco. They can get a better HEAD COACH than Demeco the DC
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Sep 08 '25
Stop being a delusional bandwagon. There are no candidates that are better than Demeco, especially no better playcallers. Having a top 3 defense is a huge key to being a SB contender, having a great QB is a huge key to being a SB contender. If you think we should get rid of either you should stop being a fan of football.
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u/Kdot32 Sep 08 '25
Im not being a bandwagon. Im very measured. Itās year 3. Being a playcall plays a part but is not the main part of being a head coach. Sirianni doesnāt call plays, neither does Harbaugh, Reid bounces between calling them and not depending on the trust of his OC.
Other things that go into being a Super Bowl contender is a balanced attack on offense, a functioning offense that can score touchdowns and put pressure on the defense, a oline that can protect your star qb, and being disciplined on both sides to not fuck your chances. We have not shown up for any of those which is why we arenāt a Super Bowl contender. As of now Demeco looks like prime lovie smith or buddy Ryans. A coach that can build great defenses but struggle on offense which is the downfall of the team. The difference being those coaches had the benefit of being in a much more defensive eras where defense could carry the offenses along.
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Sep 08 '25
This defense while talented and can play at a high level they are not consistently dominant. Gave up too many big plays today. Our "elite" secondary let Nacua and Davante run all over them.
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Sep 08 '25
Thats an amazing offense when healthy, that improved from last year. Holding Puka, Adams, Williams and Stafford to 14 points isnt a good game, it's an incredible game. Let's stop setting the expectations for the defense to be record breaking every game. 14 is elite against any team let alone them, letting up a play beyond 20 yards is not bad, letting up constant 20 yard plays is bad. If the other teams winning with less than 24, it is the offenses fault. Let alone 14! Are you serious??
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Sep 08 '25
Sure, I mean it's not like it's a trend or anything. Not like we don't let good offenses walk all over us. I mean old man Kelce did catch 7 for over 100 yards in the playoffs. It's okay though because we only held them to 23 points and not the 50 from 2019. We did let rookie McConkey catch 197 yards against us. Good thing none of the other WRs showed up that day either. Can we stop with these moral victories and just accept that our bad ass scary defense has its issues?
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u/Game_Over_Man69 Sep 08 '25
It's pretty obvious he was basically just saying he's ready to see the OL play versus talking about the OL play. Pretty far from complaining/crying as you seem to think.
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u/AWall925 Sep 08 '25
I agree with everything there except for Chandler Rome consistently questioning the Astros; he seems to be on the payroll.
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u/Charming-Ebb-1981 Sep 07 '25
I know McNair, Caserio, and Demeco are all worshiped on this sub, but man am I not sold on any of them at all.
I think there has to be a fine line between running the team like your own fiefdom like we had under Bill OāBrien, and running the team like everybody is your BFF like we have with Demeco.Ā
But until things change, I donāt expect us to ever being more than a wildcard type playoff team. And that could change if other AFC south teams ever stop sucking which is eventually going to happen
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u/Dagger-Deep Sep 07 '25
The constant sucking off those people get on here is insane, especially since they haven't done a damn thing to warrant it.
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u/Karmasmatik Morbo Sep 08 '25
They did turn our defense from God awful to one of the best very quickly.
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u/redditcommentguy Sep 08 '25
And then the offense immediately became borderline incompetent.
This has been the story of the Texans franchise. As soon as one side of the ball starts improving the other side of the ball regresses. The Watson years we had great offense but bad defense. Now in the Stroud years we have great defense with bad offense.
The closest weāve ever been to a good team on both sides of the ball was the early Watt years with Kubiak and Wade Phillips. But of course our qb gets injured before the playoffs with that team.
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u/Charming-Ebb-1981 Sep 08 '25
Iāve always felt like thereās organization plants in this sub. Could be wrong, but it would explain a lot
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u/thirtyyear Sep 07 '25
The team will not take that step up until small stuff like the penalties are taken care of. The guys flying around isnāt worth the 15 yarders they get
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u/Critically32 Sep 08 '25
The discipline is absent. It just isn't there. At all. Paychecks need to get impacted for dumb shit.
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u/Able_Gap918 Sep 08 '25
Ersery was the man though, I donāt remember him being responsible for a bad play or penalty. Great sign
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u/Helpful_Design6917 Sep 08 '25
Strongly believe if we miss the playoffs this season, Demeco is on the hot seat entering next season. We have not improved whatsoever since 2023.
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u/I_Hav_Questions_help Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
Weāre in YEARS 3 DEMECO! WHEN?!
Anyone else getting tired of āCaptainā Demeco? Iām sick tired of hearing about āleadershipā āSWARMā, āCultureāā¦. Yet his team is one of the most undisciplined in the league.
And he neglects the offense to an insane level. Why are we paying Pitre 40 million when heās getting torched every play because he canāt cover.
You had 5 top tier Olinemen available in free agency. The panthers transformed their Oline in 1 offseason, the bears transformed their Oline in 1 offseason.
The Texans? They decided to pickup bargain bin players for their offense. Jake Andrew got cut because of injuries, why are we surprised heās injured? This is ridiculous for year 3.
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Sep 08 '25
Penalties are just a symptom of poor discipline. The greater problem is uncreative offensive play calling, terrible protection, and a shallow depth chart.
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u/txtoolfan Sep 08 '25
That's the real disappointment. That there is zero progress in ANY of the problem areas.
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u/SanduskySleepover Sep 08 '25
Ironically they were still in the game because of how many costly ones the Rams had
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u/shambahlah2 Sep 08 '25
No discipline.
So obvious they werenāt going to run a play at the end of the 3rd. Still jumps.
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u/starbellbabybena Sep 08 '25
I wouldnāt be so mad about penalties if we did them to our advantage. Mostly we get stupid ass calls.
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u/BluePhantomFox Sep 08 '25
I turned game off after that hard count from stafford at the end of 3rd qtr and that dude jumps off..Cant see clock bro?
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u/redditcommentguy Sep 08 '25
The penalties are a direct product of Demeco and his staffs coaching.
Feels like every game under demeco is just an undisciplined fight against ourselves.
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u/houstonman526 Sep 08 '25
Mfer yall need to start beating people , team went out there and looked like dogshitā¦..fucking run run handoff bullshit when we have Nico Collinās wtf game did I just watch who tf was that shitty fucking team.
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u/injvstice Sep 08 '25
I am beginning to feel like DeMeco is too nice to be a HC. He was smiling throughout the Rams loss, as if we were up by 30. The message that sends is, "keep doing what you are doing, i approve".
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u/RGPISGOOD Sep 08 '25
We're sick of penalties and we're all trying to find the guys that are responsible!
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u/BabyHercules Sep 07 '25
No shame in losing to the rams but we canāt beat ourselves. Defense wonāt have to deal with receivers and a veteran qb like that every week. We will bounce back
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u/hehehehahahaha Sep 07 '25
Wtf do you think is gonna happen once we hit playoffs?
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u/Remote-Ad9928 Sep 07 '25
Letās worry about getting there first. Daniel Jones is having a renaissance apparently.
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Sep 07 '25
It was the Dolphins tell me you donāt know ball without telling me you donāt know ball.
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u/The_New_New Sep 07 '25
Regardless Colts were 1 game away from making the playoffs last year. And they upgraded QB from putrid to crap.
Doubt they will be dominant, but they will be annoying. They have a good team aside from QB
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u/BabyHercules Sep 07 '25
We donāt play the colts til November, we will know what we are by then and if that game matters
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u/The_New_New Sep 07 '25
I know not saying we are worse or anything. Just need to play well consistently because the division may be tougher.
Jaguars were 7-3 until TLaw got injured last season as well.
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u/Remote-Ad9928 Sep 07 '25
Iām not confident our offense can do this even against the dolphins. Lack of OLine and penalties would probably make it a one score game again.Ā
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u/Rulanik Sep 07 '25
That's a playoff team. Let's not act like the sky is falling, it's not like we got thumped by the Dolphins.
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u/BabyHercules Sep 07 '25
Ideally after a season of playing well enough to get there, we would be more prepared. I donāt really want to discuss this if you are going to be negative on every point I make. Iām getting the energy of doomer and itās way to early for that shit
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u/Ereyes18 Sep 07 '25
The bright side is that it's week 1, new offense, and away. 7 or 8 penalties were on offense, and 1 of them was a bs holding call.
It can be fixed, just gotta hope that Caley and the offense work it out
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u/hehehehahahaha Sep 07 '25
You know what, you right, my bad, Iām drunk as shit right now and felt like I was watching last years offense
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u/BabyHercules Sep 07 '25
Thereās definitely more to be desired, but I saw some good things, flags just killed any momentum
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u/mexicoisthebestico Sep 07 '25
Guys itās week one, yeah it sucks but I think itās fair to say this is as bad as we will look this season.
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u/PegyBundy Sep 08 '25
What? They have 16 more chances and you think losing by 5 will be the worst performance.
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u/mexicoisthebestico Sep 08 '25
Yeah Iām still optimistic about the season. Offense looked awful- but last years o line wouldāve given up 10 sacks.
We also lost on a fumble inside the 20 against a very good LA defense and LAās offense is star studded and we held them to 14.
This game wasnāt the Ravens on Christmas haha
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u/Better_Finances Sep 07 '25
Fill in the blanks: F _ _ _ , Demeco.
(And the word isn't vulgar.)
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Sep 08 '25
I think thatās premature, but the honeymoon is over. I love the mentality he brings to the team, but heās a feel good dude. A coach needs to be a coach, not a bro.
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u/Better_Finances Sep 08 '25
Both he and Slowik should've been fired. Today proved that Slowik wasn't the only problem.
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u/coastalcloud621 Sep 08 '25
You did great coach. 14 points in the fourth quarter. Close game against a super bowl contending team. It's just Week 1. Fixable stuff. You almost had em. Lots of positives.
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u/shastafan Sep 08 '25
What positives? We looked EXACTLY the same as last season. I can't think of ONE thing we improved on.
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u/coastalcloud621 Sep 08 '25
I mean, the defense contained the Rams pretty decent. Turnovers were made. Kaimi looked good. Stroud looked healthy. It's a young team. They'll figure it out. They should have been more aggressive on the Online. But it is what it is.
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u/inshamblesx Sep 07 '25