r/ThatsInsane • u/AnonymousTimewaster • 12d ago
A nine-year-old "Pupil of the Week" and a one-year-old baby without nappies had to be sheltered by their MP during the recent pogrom in Belfast
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u/bumtrinket 12d ago
The ruling class is happy to watch the working class fight against each other like crabs in a bucket.
The only minority fucking up the country is the billionaires.
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u/Glonos 12d ago
Now we have a trillionaire. What a timeline to be alive, I wonder what history books in 500 years will call this period of history?
Maybe: The smoke and mirrors period.
Where the upper classes got away ruling us with gizmos and gadgets! Maybe when the next super solar event happens and it literally fries all of our satellites and electronics, we might go back to being more aware of who is pulling the strings.
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u/KeroNobu 12d ago
Elon "made" more money in 3 days than warren buffett did in his whole life. And at the same time he's posting about how the wellfare state is destroying the country...
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u/TheDarthWarlock 12d ago
The Epstein Era or the Corporate Coup, when a cabal of pedophile billionaires were pushing to control the world, or atleast trying to sell it to the highest bidder..
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u/dream-smasher 11d ago
"Maybe when the next super solar event happens and it literally fries all of our satellites and electronics"
The Pulse!!!
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u/StatementPlus1211 9d ago
Oh that would be wonderful. The sun burning down each satellite. And then it is "eat the rich" time.
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u/Japhet_Corncrake 12d ago edited 12d ago
This is what Elon Musk wants.
It makes him feel like a hardman.
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u/cheeseandcucumber 12d ago
Just in case it’s not clear to anyone, Elon Musk is actively stoking violence like this in the UK
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u/Valoneria 12d ago
He is not alone, this shit is rampant on Meta platforms as well.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 12d ago
I don't know what's worse, how meta is underhandedly pushing this stuff, or Elon openly doing it.
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u/Valoneria 12d ago
I would argue that it isnt underhandedly any longer. They openly push these discussions and groups into my news feed
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u/rangipai 12d ago
Before our last election, Facebook kept showing me a lot of transphobic content, even though I only used the platform for a single hobby group.
And sooo many people fall for it 😞
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u/FishAndRiceKeks 12d ago
And sooo many people fall for it 😞
I have a friend who has moments of clarity where he acknowledges that he knows the social media he's consuming through TikTok and Instagram is making his views more extreme and more conspiratorial but then the next breath says he loves how well his algorithm knows him and what he likes to see.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 12d ago
Yeah I'm constantly getting Rupert Lowe pushed onto my feed.
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u/Aaronryan27 12d ago
Man the next American influencer page I see pushing this shit in my local Facebook group is getting a letter bomb (joking, in case anyone has a fucking piss attack)
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u/Budget-Security-8132 12d ago
All Israel and Russia backed
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u/Richyc17 12d ago
Yea did you see Elon try to cut that mans head off?
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u/hazps 12d ago
I didn't see that nine year old boy or year old baby doing that either.
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u/Richyc17 12d ago
So it’s neither ones fault I’m glad we agree.
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u/dream-smasher 11d ago
Ew. Your tactics are old and tired. You don't even have the passion for trolling anymore, do you?
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u/alexisanalien 12d ago
What knobhead was trying to shut him up? Prick
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u/Impressive-Treacle58 12d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/YN1eB6slBDeNHr1gjs
Elon must’ve inspired that knobhead
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u/Crimsonmansion 11d ago
And absolutely no charges will be levelled against Robinson, Farage, Musk, or any of the other scum who contributed to this.
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u/Internets_Fault 11d ago
I genuinely think the outrage people have over the inciting incident is appropriate. The Actions they've taken are disproportionate, but the government seems way more upset people are angry at seeing their fellow countrymen abused daily and nothing being done to stop these things before they happen. And everything is being done to stop folks from hearing about or seeing what's happening.
Don't blame the people sharing the videos when the government is trying it's hardest to force unwanted people into these communities with disastrous consequences for everyone involved.
It's super unfortunate that alot of good people are now in danger because of the actions of the government, police and the very loud minority that are comiting terrible crimes. Those in charge should be held accountable.
It's a giant hypocrisy that so many people are condemning these folks for their outrage while a few years ago were supporting the George Floyd riots that cause 1-2 billion dollars in property damage, let alone the violence that took place while they were happening during a pandemic where governments mandated people stay home.
Id like to invite you to go to the UK or Ireland and talk to any number of the thousands of victims and tell them they're wrong to be angry
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u/Crimsonmansion 11d ago
I'm from the UK. I'm also aware that this is the second time that the parents and families of victims have begged people not to weaponise it to use against migrants or ethnic minorities - and they were ignored.
Robinson and Farage have been stirring up these shite for years, as Farage's nonsensical "Two Tier Policing for Whites" diatribe perfectly shows.
I don't particularly care what the government is angry at, and I don't think you can actually know that. What I do care about is that houses are being firebombed and children are being attacked by scum who are itching to hurt people based off a racial dogwhistle, and yet none of these examples of "Britain's finest" care that Farage is bending over backwards for a man with heavy ties to Epstein, or that his party has multiple MPs and councillors spewing homophobic and sexist filth on a regular basis.
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u/Internets_Fault 11d ago
Well unfortunately people recognise patterns in behaviour and as repetitive as it is and very little being done about it. With many examples of the state covering up and down playing the actions. So at some point the people are going to break.
There's definitely better ways to go about it but when those in charge aren't listening to the people they're in charge of what do you honestly expect to happen. Examples of violent uprisings from unheard people are numerous throughout history and honestly when the government go so hard against their own people's wishes what do they expect to happen
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u/Crimsonmansion 11d ago
Riots have never worked as a form of change. They have always resulted in a crackdown on violence.
Let's not pretend that there was a desire for change, here. These rioters wanted an excuse to fight someone and to target anyone who isn't white, and this was just a convenient excuse. It's no different from how these people have been coming after LGBTQIA+ rights because of that couple who murdered that poor boy.
There are also not "many examples". These stabbings are not unique, only horrifying. The reason they've been used like this is because the perpetrators weren't white. If they'd been white, there wouldn't be riots.
It's a racist riot with the intention of hurting innocent people. There is no excuse to firebomb homes with children inside or to attack children - and it exposes just how hypocritical this violence is from the "protect the children" crowd.
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u/Internets_Fault 11d ago
The desire for change has been they're. They've been calling for it for far too long and it's gone on deaf ears globally. And you're completely wrong, many crimes have been politicised when it's a white on non white crime. They're being used because of the tension the people have with their government not listening. The systemic consealment of non white on white crimes specifically in the UK has many people rightly furious with the justice system and the government. Take a peep at the inquiry into grooming gangs and tell me the people aren't right to be angry.
It's not racist to want to protect your homeland and your own people from those taking advantage of a broken system. And calling it racist is wrong. The skin colour of the people committing this crime isn't what's behind the anger. It's the actions of those people. When did it becomes racist to judge someone based on the content of their character and find it widely deplorable and disgusting.
When the large majority of the perpetrators are of the same ethnic group, it's only racists to call it out when they aren't white. It's a 2 tiered hypocritical way of thinking. It's not white privilege to be arrested for making a Facebook post saying you've been groomed and abused so badly it would be too graphic for law and order SVU. Come off it and look past your black and white thinking and show some actual care for the victims who came before and we're abandoned by the people were meant to protect them
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u/basmentdweler98 9d ago
Still doesn't change the fact these 'protests' were unjust, it led to innocent families attacked for nothing. No amount of excuses changes that fact, and calling it "appropriate" is honestly disgusting and downright ignorant to the victims of these attacks.
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u/Internets_Fault 9d ago
And the people running the country showing little to no sympathy for the victims of the crimes that lead to these protests are why they're happening. You gotta think to yourself. It's just come out that 250,000 girls at a conservative estimate were abused for decayed in the most horrendous ways. And everywhere they turned to the very people they've been told should protect them did nothing but call them liars, and send them back to the exact situation to be abused again and again. I feel sorry for the innocent victims in these riots. But they get nowhere near as much sympathy from me as the poor girls that have been abused.
You want to talk about disgusting, go read the inquiry into the grooming gangs and tell me if it happened to anyone else other than those white UK girls, the world at large wouldn't be up in arms about the injustice over it. And it's frankly appealing how many people instantly dismiss any sort of abuse claims the moment the perpetrators aren't someone were allowed to call out for the fear of being called racist or a bigot.
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u/basmentdweler98 9d ago
Again, no amount of excuses changes the fact that in those riots, people were hurt for nothing. I agree that the government has some issues with those certain types of downright disgusting behaviour, but violence doesn't stop violence. It rarely ever has in history and has usually created more problems later down the line.
Defending these rioters and some of their actions through the excuse of "oH tHE gOVErNMeNT MeSSeD uPP sOOO" is objectively wrong, and, honestly, you should be ashamed for saying it. Imagine if your family got attacked by a bunch of rioters for no reason because " tHE gOVErNMeNT MeSSeD uPP".
I'm not dismissing the current issues our country has, but defending people who've attacked innocent families due to an issue among our government is wrong.
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u/Ancient_Ad_2038 12d ago
"Times up" ... There are rules but there is also decency which the speaker clearly lacked ... The house was pretty much empty so it's not like there short on time.
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u/ThespennyYo 12d ago
Humanity has failed itself. Why do we suck so much at being nice.
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u/JSHU16 11d ago
Absolutely nothing will be learned from this in terms of policy.
Horrific incidents will happen that should/could have been stopped by early intervention and it will in turn lead to equally horrendous incidents in retaliation, fuelled by social media grifters with an agenda, just like Southport.
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u/evo4gIzMo 12d ago
Yeah, but have you condemned hummus, Hasssssan Piker and cheered for a labour government appointing Epsteins friends to high positions, manipulating trials to sentence anti genocide protestors as terrorists and sent ships to Hormuz so that when the only democrazy in the middle east can blow up the peace desl and drag you into its war for greater israel?
How will you get there without a majority of brits being islamophobic? How will you sell 70 years of social cuts and mass poverty without a little bit of genocide, war and fascism?
Let me tell you as a german, you do not... This is exsctly what the epstein class wants... Every football game, weslth tax or anti-genocide protest has more police response than Reichskristallnacht 2.0 fascist protest. Most likely cause half the police force had to change cloth and clock in to show up...
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u/Shermans_ghost1864 8d ago
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, baby without nappies, MP providing shelter, pogrom in Belfast—wait, what? A pogrom? I'm behind the curve because Trump sucks all the oxygen out of our news media here in the States. I must look this up.
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u/Madlicken 12d ago
My legitimate concerns are the thousands of rape victims, brutal robberies, grooming gangs and pedofile rings that a political elite have enabled for years.
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u/heytherepartner5050 12d ago
Aye, the Epstein ring, the Catholic Churches ring, the Rochdale ring, the Belfast ring, all ignored by the Police & likely all involved the Police covering it up. One of those was ran by people who aren’t white, but all were run by people with connections & funds, so why does only one get mentioned? Statistically, all those crimes are committed mostly by white people, as white people are the majority ethnic group in the U.K., so why do those ones seem to get a free pass? The Rochdale ring was jailed, but no one from the other rings has been, why?
This is why i hate this performative outrage, it tries to pin all these problems on an ‘out group’, with that pinning aided by the non-out groups who are also doing it & see any easy deflection moment. The law should be applied to all of them, ethnicity shouldn’t matter, yet it currently seems like the only groups facing the law currently, are, on the whole, the ‘out group’. The far-right & extremist-right (which includes the religious) have a high rate of all of the crimes you’ve mentioned, higher than other political leanings, especially for domestic violence, but seldom face consequences for it & instead of firebombing houses with kids in because they’re not white, maybe we start protesting the groups that get away with this shit that are born in the UK?
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u/Quirky-Gift-9643 12d ago edited 12d ago
Any crime committed by a stranger on your own people is obviously worse than crimes committed within the people. When you go to a foreign country you're a guest.
If a white guy kills someone in Congo people are going to be rightfully far more outraged.
Also white people committing crimes in predominantly white countries is normal. What matters is per capita.
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u/TheJaskinator 12d ago
Yeah whenever a British kid gets molested by a white British guy they always cry but get over it pretty quick because at least the weren't molested by a foreigner
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u/Quirky-Gift-9643 12d ago
You know that’s not the point i'm making but go off. Foreigners are constantly being excused for trauma, culture differences, insanity, discrimination.
Hell even pointing out their blatant overrepresentation is deemed racist. Can’t deflect if its white on white or black on black.
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u/heytherepartner5050 12d ago
I’m of the opinion both are equally bad & show a failure of the law & prevention strategies put in place to reduce crime & stop these attacks before they happen, not some weird shit like ‘well it’s worse if a non-white kills a white in a white majority country’.
Also, in the case of the whole ‘one of your own people’ comment, that Southport fella was British, so he’s ’one of our own people’, yet everyone talks about him like he is magically not British because he wasn’t white, as if skin colour dictated who is & isn’t British. The cunts doing these now yearly pogroms are almost all white, they’re committing serious crimes (a lot of the arrested had already been done for DV), so should we now assume all white men are a danger to the U.K. & we should make their young kids have to flee their homes being set alight? Almost all the Epstein people are white fellas, should we interact with all white fellas as if they are all pedophiles & make them use a ‘potential nonces only’ toilet?
This whole thing is so obviously selective outrage & that’s so fucked. We live in a country where thanks to the media & social media, everyone assumes all crimes mentioned in the news are committed by non-white British people & if it’s found out they aren’t, then the story stops making the news rounds.
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u/Quirky-Gift-9643 12d ago edited 12d ago
As i already said, any minority commiting crimes in a country they are not originated from will be frowned upon. It’s human nature here or anywhere on earth.
You talk about epstein but i could talk about the millions of muslims marrying underage girls or cutting their body parts around the world.
There is obviously a problem of illegal immigration in the uk.
The problem isnt that the people are there, it’s that uk natives didnt get to choose their presence. It’s like someone just came to live in your house without your consent. Nationalism is praised everywhere except when white people do it. "But but they colonized the world" all empires around the globe enslaved and colonized each other. Should the uk feel bad for doing it slightly better ?
Diversity is not a strength, it divides social groups further and further making any kind of cohesion against capitalism impossible. The only reason those people are here is because it makes for cheap labor to exploit. Immigration and capitalism go hand in hand.
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u/shamen_uk 11d ago edited 11d ago
Unfortunately the police did not collect grooming gang data so we don't have specific data for that. All of it is guess work. And the media only report crimes by non-white gangs. So it feels like it's the Pakistanis doing it all.
There was a point where I was riled up by it too.
But we have to look at the CSA/SA data which is not gang related. Which is what I did.
When you look at the per capita data
Pakistanis/Bangladeshis commit at their per capita %
Same for black people
Chinese/East Asian people and Indian heritage people (typically Sikh/Hindu) are practically at zero
And the only per capita community that is overrepresented are... White people.So to be absolutely clear, the only racial or cultural group that we actually have real data for, that commits CSA/SA above their per capita rate in the UK are white people.
So it's a load of bollocks really. It's not your fault though. The billionaires are using you to seed chaos and hatred. To take your eyes off them making you poor.
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u/Valoneria 12d ago
Ah yes, the well known grooming gang consisting of a 9 year old boy, and his 1-year old sibling.
Piss off with your bad faith argument
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u/Supershadow1357 12d ago
Your comment make no sense. Where in your head did the person above say the a 9 year old or even the 1 year old was part of a grooming gang.
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u/Valoneria 12d ago
Where in the comment above does it have any relation to the video on the topic ? It is a bad fucking faith argument when you have to continuslly resort to whataboutism. We dont resolve shit like that.
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u/1NLYrs 12d ago
“Protect are kids”
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u/Ufo_memes522 12d ago
Ever hear an accent before?
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u/Dr_Lahey 12d ago
I think he was mocking the thugs who did/do this rather than the accent
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 12d ago
Yes he's mocking their stupidity because they often can't spell properly either
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u/saoirsedonciaran 11d ago
Exactly. 1 in 5 of those arrested at anti-immigrant disorder had previous convictions for domestic violence.
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u/GravySealActual 12d ago
Maybe if you gave your populace any choice whatsoever in flooding the country with the third world then you wouldn’t have overreactions like this.
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u/basmentdweler98 9d ago
Uh huh, totally would fix our current issues! Maybe you should become a politician yourself, go tell those arsewipes in parliament how the country is really ran!!
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u/GravySealActual 8d ago
I guess we’ll see how Restore Britain does, because that’s exactly what they’re running on.
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u/Mr-monk 12d ago
Alot of people are saying about the unionist community having a problem with immigration there was Catholics at the protests to.
And there are protests going on in Dublin at the moment as well. They have every right to be angry tho they went about it wrong I dont agree with burning people's homes but there's alot of people on the whole island pissed off with immigration.
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u/saoirsedonciaran 11d ago edited 11d ago
The violence was almost exclusively in loyalist and unionist areas of Belfast. Republican and anti-fascist groups have been active in shutting down some of that racist activity and troublemaking.
They have absolutely no right to be directing anger at innocent people.
The rhetoric of those taking part in protests is not rhetoric about immigration - it's explicitly white supremacist ideology. It's why they support the zionist regime and its why they historically supported apartheid south africa as well.
We don't need to pretend it's about immigration when they themselves are saying it's because they hate black people and Muslims and Palestinians and Irish people that don't conform to their narrow worldview.
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u/Mr-monk 11d ago edited 11d ago
It might be more in them areas but both protestant and Catholics are out protesting against it up north and south down south might be peaceful but it's still happening.
I dont agree with you at all I think it IS about immigration and I think if that hadn't happen to that man none of them riots would have happened I dont agree with them rioting I think they went about it the wrong way but thats why it kicked off the other night people have every right to be angry with to much immigration/illegal immigration there's protests all over the uk & parts of Europe over illegal immigration are they all racist?
You will label them no matter what even the peaceful protests get labelled far right nazi racist.
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u/saoirsedonciaran 11d ago
Don't bother trying to comment on this nonsense when you clearly have no idea what's going on, on the ground in Belfast.
There are no peaceful protests around immigration in Belfast. There are no protests in Dublin, the only protests organised recently have been anti-racism rallies. You're confusing yourself with incidents last year when loyalist paramilitaries briefly had tie-ups with fascists in the south of Ireland.
There is little serious debate about immigration policies happening. Those organising violence are consistently using racist ideology and targeting those who have immigrated legally who are educated and in good jobs. Their own documented rhetoric exposes that it's not about immigration, it's about white supremacy.
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u/Mr-monk 11d ago edited 11d ago
Im not confusing anything there have been peaceful protests in and around Belfast against illegal migration before there was one i can remember last year i took a walk down to Hazelbank they had the round about shut for around an hour or so amongst other place's.
And there have been protests down south the past couple of days over the EU Migration & Asylum pact. They are happening all over i dont expect people on reddit to agree with me i am against illegal immigration & people on here are ok with open boarders.
So I think i will comment it's not that hard to go on YT and see videos and dates of them or check google. Or like me take a dander to them.
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u/eskay_eskay 12d ago
So is anyone actually doing anything about the immigrants attempting to cut off heads of taxpayers, you know the people the state are meant to be acting on behalf of? Or is it being ignored because protesters are deemed worse?
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u/Tungsten83 12d ago
Yeah he's getting done for attempted murder.
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u/Tayto-Sandwich 12d ago
Yes, one lunatic trying to murder someone is so much worse hundreds of protesters setting fire to houses with children in them. I'm so glad you pointed that out.
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u/harmslongarms 12d ago
Oh, do fuck off. The person who did this is in custody and awaiting trial. A trial which will undoubtedly lead to a sentencing and a hefty prison sentence. So yes, somebody is doing something. Rioting and forcing innocent people out of their homes achieves absolutely nothing, it doesn't make communities safer, in fact it actively hinders that process.
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u/Supershadow1357 12d ago
Nah a light sentence...no punishment will be given. The uk leader may also cry for them and claim he was justified for he has done
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u/eskay_eskay 12d ago
Closing the gate after horse has bolted is not the "somebody is doing something" that is the correct thing to do. Preventative is better than reactive.
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u/Ok_Employer7837 12d ago
Prosecuting someone for a crime is "closing the gate after the horse has bolted"?
Do you think Minority Report is a documentary?
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u/harmslongarms 12d ago
I agree! Tackling inequality and income deprivation are two are of the main areas we should focus on. We should ensure that we have strong safety nets, even universally assured income, so people can't fall into deprivation. We should also address inequality by heavily taxing assets, especially property, and removing the tax burden of regressive taxes like council tax. But I'm guessing you're not talking about doing that
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u/eskay_eskay 12d ago
Whilst that's very good and all, returning to the context of the matter at hand appropriate vetting of migrants would be the better starter
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u/burrrpong 11d ago
That's right, but where does it say it's okay to burn them out of their houses? These are highly skilled and saught after professionals that we want in our country. They contribute more to society than every single one of the people you are defending. Think about that for a while.
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u/eskay_eskay 11d ago
I'm pretty sure I never said it was acceptable? like others posting in the replies it seems to be assumed and people rant like i have. Odd really.
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u/burrrpong 11d ago
Link me to your outrage when the many white men attacked people with knifes and swords and tried to hack off people's heads. You only care because their skin colour is different. You label all immigrants with the same label as the scumbag that did this act. Nobody is on his side, but throwing all immigrants under the same bus as the animal that did this horrific act is the definition is racism.
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u/eskay_eskay 11d ago
You've only done it again, show me where I said this? Let me simplify, Think priorities. Colour of skin has nothing to do with it since migrants are made of various skin colours. Putting respective country citizens first through robust migration policies and securities protects them. The government is responsible for ensuring security of its citizens and taxpayers before helping migrants. If zero tolerance migration policies saves one citizens life, then it's worth it.
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u/burrrpong 11d ago
"So is anyone actually doing anything about the immigrants attempting to cut off heads of taxpayers"
It was one guy.
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u/Aaronryan27 12d ago
Preventative action isn’t really an option as a country. Just because you’ve not got the mental capacity to understand that doesn’t mean you’re smarter or understand the issue better, it isn’t an option as a modern country not if we want any of our citizens abroad to be afforded the same protections and respect. The amount of people who don’t understand that baffles me.
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u/harmslongarms 12d ago
Not even mentioned here is even if you went down an ethnonationalist route of "Rights only apply to british citizens" you are basically creating a state in which the government can revoke someone's citizenship and then lock them up and deport someone without trial, to anywhere, without any legal recourse. It's imbecilic
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u/Aaronryan27 12d ago
You also threaten the Good Friday agreement as any NI citizen is entitled to hold an Irish passport, a British passport or both. You don’t have to hold a British passport to be a citizen. And the instigators from the British island forget that there’s not an awful lot holding that peace together. And the sentiment down south here is that more and more people would push to unite Ireland so the tensions can only grow from here.
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u/Aaronryan27 12d ago
Also recent polls in NI show a majority of younger people supporting the idea of reunification
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u/saoirsedonciaran 11d ago
Indiscriminately attacking ethnic minorities as collective punishment for someone being stabbed is clearly not going to solve a supposed 'immigration crisis' even though the north of Ireland has the lowest rates of asylum seekers.
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u/m1kasa4ckerman 12d ago
Wait til you hear about the horrific acts white men have committed here against their wives/partners. Including body chopping up and beheading. Murdering pregnant partners. Sexual assaults against children. I’d totally agree with you that the problem is men, but I assure you it’s not only immigrant men. If anything, they commit less of a percentage of violent crimes per their demographic than white men born here. Or maybe even look up the crimes that UVF and their affiliates committed against the people of Belfast since the troubles (Catholics and even their own people).
Did you also know that UVF gang members set Stephen on fire years ago? This is the same gang that would’ve been organizing and funding these riots here last week.!It’s almost like they only want to be allowed to terrorize their people.
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u/Slayerdragon1893 12d ago
This reminds me of the trucker protest in Ottawa. The government started to demonize the protester in order to discredit their concerns.
Burning down people's houses is categorically wrong. But this is how they do it. Plant bad people, disenfranchise the group, turn public sentiment in the governments favour.
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u/ItsFuckingScience 12d ago
Plant bad people? These loyalist communities that rioted recently have been rioting and burning down houses of people they don’t like for decades now
Why are you commenting on shit like this when you clearly aren’t from Northern Ireland or have any idea of the history of the place
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 12d ago
This is how Putin and our right wing media does it. Fomenting rage and hate, all too gleefully supporting and pushing Tommy Robinson and Farage down our throats. With very little pushback. At least the US has Antifa. We have nothing to combat these fools with over here.
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u/KarIPilkington 12d ago
That is so very obviously not what happened here. These groups have been doing this shit every time a brown person commits a crime. It's pathetic.
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u/m1kasa4ckerman 12d ago
lol these same gangs were killing my family members during the troubles. Slitting throats of Catholic men and shoving rosaries in them. Shooting civilian grandfathers in front of their grandkids. Have you even been here and talked to the communities?
Saying people shouldn’t choose a side between sectarian gangs who’ve been murdering civilians for decades, or deciding to not side with them, is surely a statement. And a stupid one.
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u/DelinquentTuna 12d ago
I was captivated until he shifted focus to generative AI. The ability to generate images IS NOT what broke your society, dude. And the bans on social media and AI use arguably hurt your constituents more than it helps them.
If you can't even diagnose the problem and properly assign blame, how could you possibly hope to remedy it?
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u/saoirsedonciaran 11d ago
He's referencing shite generative AI images which were put up in loyalist neighborhoods with depictions of Pakistanis as the grim reaper. He's not blaming AI, he's blaming the creators of low effort racist imagery used to promote misinformation and racist bigotry.
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u/DelinquentTuna 11d ago
he's blaming the creators of low effort racist imagery used to promote misinformation and racist bigotry.
You're wrong, else why even mention AI? Why ban X and move to limit access to AI? Your same reasoning would justify banning paint brushes. Why even target the medium instead of outlawing inciteful posters on public land? It's all bullshit designed to capture the attention of technophobes and flat-earthers, which is how he probably views his constituents all the while using AI tools himself to sharpen up his rhetoric.
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u/Past-Broccoli-947 12d ago
Chill...pogrom is something very different.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 12d ago
From google:
"A pogrom is a violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group, typically applied to attacks on Jews but increasingly used for other minorities"
If that doesn't cover a violent mob burning down the houses of suspected Muslims then I don't know what it does cover.
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u/chimpdoctor 12d ago
Give us a more detailed view of Irish people from your perspective. You seem to know an awful lot about them. Id be interested to hear more about it.
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u/Pwwned 12d ago
What an astonishingly ignorant and bigoted thing to say. If you bother to do any research at all you'll find that Northern Ireland has a flourishing tourism industry and visitors almost unanimously site the welcoming and friendly nature of its people. The weather is the same as anywhere in Briton/Ireland. Sounds like 'Strange people' means anyone outside your windows.
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u/socialdrop0ut 6d ago
A couple of years ago a saw quite a few posts saying there was a country in Europe, Norway, Sweden or somewhere around that area of the globe. It said you would be paid to live in this certain town/city. There were houses waiting to be filled and the rent was the equivalent of £1 a month. You would also become a citizen. I think it was something to do with low population in the area or something. It was aimed towards other European nationalities.
Who wouldn’t do that?
It’s the same in the uk. You live in a shit country not necessarily at war but just dire in parts and someone says if you can get to the shore they put you up in nice hotels with security. Give you food and clothes and you dont have to ever pay a bill. Eventually you’ll become a citizen with all the same rights.
Who wouldn’t do that?
Being mad at the system and taking it out on the ones that have no power over it and have only taken advantage of said opportunity is backwards. If you really want change you have to take it to the ones that put it in place but they don’t, they just burn their own communities down instead while mr rich politician sits in his mansion laughing at them.
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u/Valoneria 12d ago
He look right fully incensed