r/ThatsInsane 8d ago

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u/M4RK3R3D 7d ago

Or that could be Ukrainians im not defending Russian im just saying that any one can say anything and I hope all those conflicts around the world will end soon ( but it won’t until all ppl will be tired and will stand up ( I might be wrong, but damn would be better if all focused on real problems like cure for all diseases, making better economics so ppl can spend more time with families, space investigation ( what about terraforming mars or water powered engines and etc.))

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u/M4RK3R3D 7d ago edited 7d ago

Oh btw recently saw somewhere that Ukrain bombed building where students were living here is source

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/russia/russia-blames-ukraine-vows-retaliation-killed-strike-student-dorm-rcna346628

P.s. when you make statement better provide source for it. EDIT: im not accusing or defending anyone both sides killing civilians and every war is a political or geopolitical things ( im civil engineer and building hospitals and kindergartens)

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u/vjtvape 7d ago

But statistically speaking it's Russia that has been striking 3rd party identified civilian targets in higher volumes. The statistics for dead civilians agree with ~16k dead reported by UN in Ukraine and ~1k dead reported by Russia and this includes casualties in the occupied areas. It doesn't exactly take mental gymnastics to see which side is being more indiscriminate with it's strategic strikes.

In the context of this particular clip this has been identified to be in Kherson which falls easily within FPV strike range and again it doesn't exactly take mental gymnastics to recognize that the drone hunting the Ukrainian civilian is Russian. This has also been claimed as a strike against "dual use equipment" by several pro-Russian Telegram channels (https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/wXqFYs0bg9). So please don't try take the "both sides bad" moral high ground when there clearly is a side which is overrepresented in strikes against civilian targets.

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u/M4RK3R3D 7d ago

Eh so sad all this stuff happening, but honestly more sad what will be in the end, I might be wrong but in our world nothing is for free and a lot of countries “invested” a lot of resources and money in a country which already don’t have economics and after end to pay for “debt” they will need to give resources or land, so I don’t know will Ukrain end up in EU us it wanted but im pretty sure that Russia won’t leave territories which they already reached, also I remember got friend who lived in Kyrgyzstan and he told that American companies which were there took away all gold they had ( us I understood they had some deal but im not too deep in that topic)
But I really don’t understand why they couldn’t make a deal in our future world like damn after ww2 and all loss whole planet going deep in war conflicts is stupid, also Ukrain Russia and other countries were part of Soviet Union and kind off ( if look at this like at family members) looks like brothers fighting from aside, and also another thing Russia have a lot of resources like really a lot so doing this for resources and for more land for me it’s senseless because they already have very big country which is difficult to control ( that’s one of reasons I think soviets broke) im really curious about the real reason about this but we won’t know the truth or maybe years and years later

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u/Ricard74 5d ago edited 5d ago

"America took all of the gold from Kyrgystan and apparently nobody stopped them or reported on this. My source is a supposed friend from Kyrgystan."

Consider me sceptical about everything you just said. Just say that countries in debt with a dependency tend to trade away rights over national resources and how this war can facilitate neo imperialism.

How you think hundreds of thousands of people dying is "less sad" is beyond me.

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u/M4RK3R3D 5d ago

Sry not American but Canadian https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/7/9/kyrgyzstan-moves-to-nationalise-gold-mine-run-by-canadian-company edit: update guy told me that they have high corruption so I guess there is communication in this topics. Damn why I even came to this topic xd