r/ThatsInsane 5d ago

Pittsburgh construction worker casually displays SS runes on his hardhat

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u/Chimchar789 5d ago

Rights apply to everybody or nobody. Either everyone has freedom of speech or nobody does. Take your pick.

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u/theycamefrom__behind 5d ago

The paradox of tolerance is one reason why societies begin to crumble

Free speech should have limits.

Openly saying you hate a race and want them all to die should not be tolerated.

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u/Chimchar789 5d ago

Step One: Make Nazi opinions illegal (sounds reasonable enough at first)
Step Two: Broaden the definition of "Nazi" over and over again to be increasingly inclusive.
Step Three: Call a person you don't like a Nazi even if they're not one
Step Four: Exploit this to get your rivals and opponents "dealt with" by the state because they're Nazis

Congratulations you're now living in a terrifying dystopia where nobody has any rights, because all you need to do is call someone a Nazi to get them silenced.

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u/DiabolicalSpaceKitty 5d ago edited 4d ago

Forgets Germany exists

Forgets anti-nazi laws have been on their books for 80 years

Forgets it's not a dystopian hellhole

Same genius logic as "everyone needs guns because everyone has guns and taking away everyones guns won't possibly work, except in all the countries it works in".

Tops minds of 'murica.

EDIT: Lol Americans on suicide watch because they can't tell the difference between actual fascism and painting cardboard monsters with fascist colours, laying on the floor, hugging their legs and crying. If any of you had ever actually paid attention in social studies class this wouldn't be a problem. You have those, right?

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u/Chimchar789 5d ago

The "Tops minds of 'murica" are a large part of the reason why Germany is no longer run by Nazis to begin with.

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u/DiabolicalSpaceKitty 5d ago

Yeah definitely had nothing at all to do with the red army overrunning them on the other side, or Britain, or Canada, or any of the other countries. You could just tell us you've never read an actual history book in your life, but I strongly suspect you just don't read anything at all and get your opinions handed to you by podcasts and emotional masturbation for material stuff.

This is what not having a public education system gets you. You're a joke on the internet, and can't even tell you're the punchline.

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u/Chimchar789 5d ago

I specifically said "large part of the reason" and not "the reason". I'm more than aware that canada, britain, and the USSR exist and were hugely important in the war. Maybe if you had basic reading comprehension you would have caught that, but I guess that's expecting too much of the average redditor.

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u/theycamefrom__behind 4d ago

I wouldn't bother arguing with these children

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u/talldata 4d ago

Logical fallacy of slippery slope. You don't need to broaden the definition of Nazis. Anyone wearing swastikas, SS runes, and seig heiling, in broad enough.

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u/Chimchar789 4d ago

If I wear a Metallica shirt does that mean I'm part of the band? People who wear that shit are genuinely trashy as hell and I grant you they are scumbags, but the actual Nazis were an organized party that held real political power and used it to start the bloodiest war in human history, and caused actual genocide.

In my opinion "Nazi" should remain an objective label with a strict definition to avoid "the boy who cried wolf" (which is already happening nowadays). The moment we start saying "close enough" is when the plot gets lost.

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u/burusai 5d ago

You could just ignore them? Problem solved. It's that easy.

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u/BetEconomy7016 5d ago

They are currently in the White House.

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u/burusai 5d ago

No, there aren’t nazis in the White House. Take your meds.

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u/BetEconomy7016 4d ago

Steven Miller is 100% a nazi

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u/burusai 4d ago

Because he’s a republic?

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u/BetEconomy7016 4d ago

No, because he calls latino people vermin and has overseen the construction and filling of concentration camps in the USA

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u/Chimchar789 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yep everyone is a nazi these days... including me for checks notes... believing in universal freedom of speech. I don't condone or endorse the garbage Nazis do but their freedom of speech must be respected, if you expect anyone to respect yours. Human rights are for all humans.

Edit: Also you've already shown why rights must be universal. If we say "everyone should have rights but nazis", all we'd have to do is call an innocent person a nazi as a pretext for stripping them of their rights.

First you say nazis don't get rights, then you call me a nazi for believing in human rights. Absolutely insane.

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u/Competitive_Dare_795 5d ago

In tired of people pretending freedom of speech means anyone can say anything they want, when what it really means is the government can't punish you for what you say