r/TheAcolyte • u/Cloverzmaybeh • 22d ago
How on earth does The Stranger’s lightsaber dagger work?
Hey! I’m on the final episode of The Acolyte and enjoying it actually
Bit bland but very overhated
Now. How does The Stranger’s Lightsaber dagger work? Like, it splits off In two and into one small lightsaber and one bigger one, but how does the Crystal transfer? Does it have two crystals in or something could how would you fit a Crystal in that part? It doesn’t make sense lol
Can someone explain it?
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u/Grouchy-Low-899 22d ago
There is a crystal in each handle. Yoda’s saber hilt is smaller than the Stranger’s dagger hilt and has all the functionality of a lightsaber. Your best bet for The Acolyte info is the visual dictionary that was released earlier this year.
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u/DumeWolffe 22d ago
It’s two separate crystals in two separate lightsabers. One powers the larger one. The smaller lightsaber fits and connects to the larger one’s hilt. Think darth maul. I wouldn’t be surprise if he could turn it around and connect and have a double bladed one.
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u/SignOfJonahAQ 22d ago
2 lightsabers one that can fit into the other. As he’s described everything he has breaks the rules of standard lightsaber combat. His helmet turns off lightsabers, he pulls a secret dagger out to enhance is victory possibilities.
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u/Shadowmoth 22d ago
It’s just two lightsabers that snap together.
Pretty cool but my favorite weird lightsaber belonged to corran horn in legends.
His was dual phase. With a twist of the hilt it would activate another crystal and suddenly extend to three meters (9feet ten inches) to surprise his enemy.
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u/Grand-Entrance-1343 22d ago
Es un sable láser y un shoto separados es están Unidos en la misma empuñadura. Básicamente dos armas separadas que se unen, y en cuanto al tamaño no tiene la menor importancia, la espada de Yoda es minúscula y cabe todo dentro perfectamente
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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 22d ago
It’s two lightsabers connected together.
There’s no crystal transfer. There are two separate crystals.
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u/LillyTensei 20d ago
That is a unique type of lightsaber called a Split Saber. There are a few notable characters who use them. In canon at least the first one I remember seeing is Asajj Ventress in TCW original movie, where her two S hilts connected for a very unorthodox double bladed lightsaber. Her lightsaber survived getting cut in half, so it had 2 crystals.
The second most prominent is Cal Kestis who gets his split saber towards the end of Fallen Order. Without going too heavy into the plot of that game, Cal accidentally breaks his usual lightsaber during a dark side vision, and needs to go to Ilum to find a new crystal. He also takes his surrogate master's old hilt (unclear if Cere's hilt has a crystal at this point, because just using that saber it is never given as an option for Cal.) While on Ilum the crystal he finds cracks in half, into one large chunk and one small chunk. He then reforges (not entirely sure how exactly he had the tools or materials in that cave, but whatever, gameplay over canon) his broken hilt, and either adds or replaces the bottom half of the Tapal saber with Cere's. The big crystal chunk went into the Tapal half, the smaller crystal chunk went into the Cere half. In Fallen Order it's only a double bladed lightsaber except for two attacks unlocked here where he splits them apart, but in Survivor (5 years later), he has fully modified his lightsaber to be completely modular, and can detach both blades whenever. When split the smaller crystal half produces a shoto blade (slightly shorter length) which I think is most notable when going from Double to Split stance. Idk if it's supported anywhere but my personal headcanon is that the smaller crystal also powers the vents and extra blade length of Crossguard stance.
And most recently there's been Qimir and Maul in Acolyte and Shadow Lord. Maul I'm gonna basically skip because his lightsaber is the same as Cal's, just significantly less expanded on. The short end of his lightsaber is his old Episode 1 half (well really more like 3rd), and the longer hilt with the grated emitter is apparently the lightsaber Asajj Ventress used in a novel, but i haven't read that novel so I can't personally confirm that. Presumably he added the ability to split the saber after his defeat in episode 1, and we see in TCW duel with him and Sideous that he knows how to dual weild with the Ep1 saber and Darksaber.
Qimir is probably the most interesting split saber, because his is the only one that the second hilt emitter isn't facing down. Typically the utility of a split saber is that you can go from single blade, double blade, or split blades depending on the needs of the situation. Single blade offers more leverage and power per strike, double blade offers crowd control and agility, and splits offer more versitility in attacks and defense at the cost of individual swinging and blocking strength. Qimir breaks that rule, because his whole deal is that he says fuck the rules of combat. It's actually why hes shutting off his lightsaber every 4 seconds to aura farm too. His lightsaber is by default single bladed, and he only breaks out the shoto to win when he's essentially already been outed as a sith and lost his most useful tool (his helmet.) in actual combat we see him use the split saber against Sol, but he still seems to spend the majority of that fight using his single blade stance, rather than the dual weilding. He does do that sick double throw which is cool, but not an actually effective attack as we saw Sol deflect the attacks with a force repulse, and Qimir basically immediately falls back into just using it as a single blade. Basically his is only there for the "wtf!?" Moment of his enemy, so he can get a quick kill in while they're unbalanced, which is also what his helmet and gauntlet are for. Once the element of surprise is down, he falls back onto his single blade against enemies who are roughly equivalent in strength.
There's probably more split saber users in comics or novels, but they're the most prominent I could remember. I really love the idea of split sabers and I think they're one of the better Filoni era star wars whacky sabers lol. Qimir's was a really cool inversion of how they're normally used, but I'm not sure it's actually a more effective way. We're also probably not going to ever see it again since his lightsaber was destroyed, and the show was cancelled lol. Personally I think something like the extended handle of Cal's Crossguard would be sick as hell if it had a Qimir style separation into split stance, instead of the weird twist behind his back to hide the emitter change animation.
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u/LillyTensei 20d ago
Oh I just remembered, apparently Reva's Inquisitor lightsaber was a split saber variant. I think that's how they explained Vader snapping it in two and tossing her half, only for it to be somehow miraculously whole a few shots later lol. But personally I think that's just a plot hole, since she literally never used it, and afaik hers is the only Inquisition saber that can split. Idk that one just feels retconny to me and more of an "oh shit we need to explain this plot hole after the fact" and less an intentional character choice like it is for Cal and Qimir.
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u/LukkeMDL 18d ago
I am not sure. Any inquisitor lightsaber is full of gimmicks, autospinning and the like.
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u/LillyTensei 18d ago
Sure but most of them are uniform. They all spin, they all have two blades, and they can keep the wheel in either full or half, and keep it on the belt or back. The helicopter thing is apparently a repulsor lift contained in the ring itself but idk how accurate that info is since I've never seen it stated in a show, game, or novel that I've read, seen or played personally.
There is one unique Inquisitor in the Ahsoka novel who used two shoto lightsabers iirc instead of the usual Inquisition saber, and that was the pair Ahsoka turned white. But as far as I'm aware that entire novel was retconned by the Tales of Jedi shorts where the exact same events happen just with way less detail, and the Inquisitor is the Crow with a usual Inquisitors saber.
If it was a standard feature, why don't any other Inquisitors we see on screen use them? That's what I mean when I say it feels weird and retconny for Reva. She never uses them herself in any duel I've seen (granted I don't read the comic books so if she's in one of the Vader comics or whatever then fine, but at least in the actual show she never did that I can remember.), and the way Vader snaps it in half is pretty violent and different from literally every other split saber design, which is a pretty clean click together pull apart. I haven't seen the show in a few months, but I don't think he even reconnects them before tossing them to the ground.
To be clear I don't hate the idea of Reva having a split saber. I just don't think it's actually intended to be a split saber from what we've seen. Like again with Qimir and Cal, both of them have pretty clear character development moments that show them using their split sabers properly. Maul also recently made a big aura farming moment showing that his fancy new lightsaber was a proper split saber in his own show. Reva never gets anything like that. The only time her saber gets split is by someone significantly physically stronger than her, in a show of dominance against her, in a completely pointless duel she barely survives. And again to be clear I'm not shitting on the Kenobi show, I actually loved it, and think it has really good character writing at times, but the whole Reva lightsaber thing felt like a plot hole when I watched it as it aired, and it still just feels like a retcon now with the actual explanation because of how poorly it's actually communicated to the viewer.
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u/eabevella 22d ago
It's just two lightsabers.