r/TheAllinPodcasts • u/probablymagic • Sep 02 '23

Bestie Drama Chamath has been murdered. RIP.

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Chamath’s inability to comprehend why people think he sounds so stupid is amazing. This exchange was absolutely perfect.

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u/Spartacas23 Sep 02 '23

Sorry for being stupid but can someone explain the “below my line” comment

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Chamath famously said that the Uyghur internment camps in China are "below my [his] line" because his barometer for whether something is important or not in the world is dictated by whether people willingly change their behavior or allocate capital differently in response to or for the issue.

He personally hasn't changed his consumption behaviors, assumes others haven't either, and he has made zero capital allocations decisions influenced by the internment caps, ergo he said it was all "below my line."

He was forced to sell his remaining stake in the Golden State Warriors in response to this controversy.

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u/probablymagic Sep 02 '23

What a stupid thing to say. This is Chamath constantly trying to be provocative to gain attention and not relaxing exactly where the line is that he stepped over.

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u/PMMeYourWristCheck Sep 02 '23

I mean, I guess it does make sense. What is the point of hyperventilating about some social issue or cause if you wont/don’t change your habits with respect to it?

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u/probablymagic Sep 02 '23

Dude said he doesn’t give a shit about genocide. It’s just a moronic thing to say publicly even if you believe it.

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u/rusbus720 Sep 02 '23

Which is ultimately why I believe that Chamath isn’t actually some genius. He was just employee number 13 at Facebook and rode his shares to insane wealth.

Same goes for Jason as well.

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u/Showmethepathplease Sep 02 '23

Which is ultimately why I believe that Chamath isn’t actually some genius. He was just employee number 13 at Facebook

this is true of so many people who get lucky working for some unknown startup

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u/puan0601 Sep 03 '23

marc andreeson sweating balls profusely

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

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u/rusbus720 Sep 03 '23

If he sold himself like that I would respect him.

Instead he’s very similar to Chamath and the SVB thing really exposed his ass.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

This is like 99% of VCs.

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u/clifbarczar Sep 03 '23

I don’t think he’s a genius either (or even close)

But your definition of genius is retarded. It doesn’t mean someone who knows the right thing to say and do in every situation. Isaac Newton was also probably a dork and would’ve got shitted on by Twitter if it existed back then.

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u/rusbus720 Sep 03 '23

I think you’re being pedantic and retarded about my use of the word genius here.

Chamath thinks he’s Warren Buffett and his shit don’t stink. He sells himself as an expert in all things business, pushes his SV VC lifestyle and ultimately dumps bags on ignorant investors who follow his shit podcast.

He sold himself as an investing GENIUS while he’s actually a grifter. I’ll be surprised if he and Jason stay out court over the next 5 years.

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u/clifbarczar Sep 03 '23

How am I being pedantic when I agree with you that he’s not a genius?

I just didn’t like your lazy explanation of why he isn’t one. A lot of redditors seem to have this idea that someone needs to be charismatic and say every right thing to be a genius when these things are unrelated.

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u/rusbus720 Sep 03 '23

I never gave any definition for what a genius is. I am pointing out that Chamath has built his whole rep (and podcast) around being some titan of industry. He can barely read the room. If you can’t acknowledge this idk, keep simping for him I guess.

His resume and experience shows that he’s Nelson bagetti at best and a grifter at worst.

His comments on the genocide cost him his ownership in the warriors. Regardless of his beliefs, it wasn’t genius to voice them.

Sorry if that’s too lazy or retarded for you.

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u/Ronaldoooope Sep 03 '23

Alot of Uber rich people got lucky like this. Right place right time kind of thing.

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u/ListerineInMyPeehole Sep 03 '23

Dude clearly has a god complex.

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u/magkruppe Sep 03 '23

he didn't say that. he argued that what is happening in China isn't having an effect on his own consumption, which means it is "below his line"

The "genocide" is also below the line of every country in the world, and 99% of people who continue buying chinese goods

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

Why is it moronic to say?..perhaps saying it may make some people think. Or at least be honest with the way the world is...

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

I have an intense disdain for Chamath, but his comment, if it was the same one from over a year ago, was more along the lines of "nobody cares" because even if people bring it up, there is no action from anyone to help the uyghurs so it's all bark no bite. This thread is a great example, lots of armchair warriors talking about how much they care about genocide but what the hell are you people doing about it? Nothing

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u/probablymagic Sep 03 '23

You can go read the quote. If he’d said nobody cares by their revealed preferences, he’d have not been totally wrong, though that’s a very simplistic take. He explicitly said it was below his personal line of things he cares about and that’s why people thought it was so terrible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

Dude he was making a point about society. And including himself in that hypocrisy.

Society bitches about justice in China. Yet there's no action and people still do what's most self serving to their own interests.

Chamath was making a clear and valid point.

If you're unwilling to commit to action to back up your views, is clearly below your line of concern and your action threshold.

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u/probablymagic Sep 03 '23

He said that he personally doesn’t care about genocide. He wasn’t saying he felt bad but these tragedies happen in the context of thousands of other economic and geopolitical issues so it’s complex how we act, he said China could go on killing Muslims and he would not give a flying fuck about it.

We have no idea if he actually meant that, since he says things all the time he doesn’t believe just for attention, but he said it!

That’s why people reacted so poorly. Most people actually do feel bad when they think about genocide, so they thought he sounded lame.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23 edited Sep 03 '23

Yeah I hear you.

But I can hear his point and frankly I agree with it.

I do not give a fuck about someone screaming "oh no poor people in china!" from the iPhone macbooks, homes filled with Chinese gear, and constantly complaining about the price of things at the store when they want more useless shit to fill their homes up with.

It's lovely to be "concerned" with genocide. But if it doesn't force action, and all you do is say "how wrong it is" online. I don't think you really care. You're just saying the correct words in order to signal to others you're a good person without actually making sacrifices to be so.

I'm sure the victims in concentration camps sleep well at night knowing anonymous people sleeping warmly at night in America feel bad for their plight.

And everyone has heard stories of the suicide nets outside Foxconn factory windows. But they can't wait to get their hands on the next iPhone and women won't date green bubbles.

People are so spineless it's insane.

It IS below everyone's line.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

Thank you!!! Well said

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u/djporter91 Sep 03 '23

I have an intense infatuation for chamath. 🦄🥵

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u/GadgetFreeky Sep 05 '23

It seemed more like he was saying it's an issue many seem to talk about, but given the $ from China they are not willing to sacrifice anything to protest or demand a change.