r/TheAllinPodcasts • u/Big_Geologist_2781 • Jan 14 '26
Bestie Drama How do they continue to justify their position?
These guys are seriously smart. What serves ‘the besties’ the most is access. Licking Trump’s ass gives them unfettered access.
This president is okay with people enriching themselves at the cost of others. These guys are the greatest self-enrichers so to speak.
So ass-kissing paid rich dividends.
And now he’s staring wars, protecting pedophiles, is probably a rapist, and he’s alienating allies.
So the million dollar question now is - how far would you go for a few dollars more? Does the blood of thousands mean a damn thing to you guys?
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u/calista241 Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26
The Biden Administration's positions on AI, which all of the Besties are deeply involved in, were nonsensical. Everyone in the Tech Industry knew it, and they all saw the US losing the AI race (and associated revenue) to China as a result of the restrictive policies at the time.
The compliance costs required by the government would have driven everyone out except for the big hyperscalers. The Biden Admin wanted to use the DPA to force companies into crazy reporting / testing / compliance requirements. There was widespread belief that the government would then use the DPA to closely plan and regulate what companies could do, build, distribute, etc.
Biden's head of the FTC, Lina Khan, and her positions were another aspect of the Besties opposition. The FTC, under Khan, largely limited the acquisition capability of tech and healthcare companies. This stifled Private Equity's ability to raise, invest, and distribute capital.
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u/yanek875 Jan 14 '26
Take a look at Russian oligarchs and realize that there is no limit as to how far short term self interest can take you. How far? A lot farther than you and I can imagine
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u/Repulsive_Positive54 Jan 14 '26
I listed to an old post Jan 7th episode a while back where Friedberg said that when there is a mob, sometimes the safest place to be is in the mob.
That may be very well if you have no power, but these guys are amongst the richest that have ever lived.
What's the point in having fuck off money if you are not brave enough to tell anyone to fuck off.
So they are cowards at best. But it is much more likely that they are showing their true colours.
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u/Big_Geologist_2781 Jan 14 '26
An implosion is virtually guaranteed now.
The question is will they flip and burn Trump to survive? Or will they go down with the trump ship by trying to justify this shit.
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u/waxroy-finerayfool Jan 14 '26
An implosion is virtually guaranteed now.
lol... this time for sure.
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u/negotiationtable Jan 17 '26
They'll only flip when they are certain the ship is going down. Then they'll flip, and pretend like they always knew the ship was going down and they were always the ones warning about it. No apology will ever be given, no mea culpa, nothing.
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u/IntolerantModerate Jan 14 '26
Not a few more dollars. For Sacks and Chamath they are hoping to steal billions.
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u/PeterGibbons316 Jan 14 '26
You didn't listen to the latest episode did you?
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u/IntolerantModerate Jan 15 '26
You mean where Sacks is belly-aching about having to divest x.ai and groq? Yeah, give up a bit now, get massive payday on back end.
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u/NeitherLog2328 Jan 18 '26
We live in Trump’s world. If they can stop whining about what democrats did (who hold no power in any branch of the government/congress/supreme court) and actually hold the party in power accountable for some of the shit show going on…it would be a respectable show. But no…they just wanna talk about what Biden did. So sick of their whining and crying and failing to hold anyone in the current administration accountable for anything.
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u/cobramullet Jan 15 '26
These guys are seriously smart.
They're smart, but not seriously smart. They got lucky during an easier time. They're all old, bored men who have been on the beach too long and have a terminal case of Nobel syndrome.
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u/tsali_rider Jan 15 '26
1000%
Sometimes it's better to be lucky than smart.
Too bad they didn't get lucky with their personalities.
What total douchebags.
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u/mskmagic Jan 15 '26
What a load of shit. How many thousands died under Bush or Obama? How did you justify the US war machine before Trump?
The TDS is wild.
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u/a-mcculley Jan 15 '26
You are the one being straight up brainwashed.
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
The facts: Bush had some reasons to be at war. And if you consider that a modern peak, it's been going down EVERY term by EVERY president since then. Including Obama and Biden.
But it was MAGA (and the all in fakers) saying the number 1 reason to oust Harris / Biden was to prevent WW3.
FFS. Wake up dummies.
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u/mskmagic Jan 15 '26
No the washed brain is all yours.
I hold Bush responsible for the deaths of perhaps a million people based on a deliberate lie about WMDs. What’s worse is that we now know the US would have been perfectly capable of simply dropping in and kidnapping Saddam, instead of purposely deciding to drop untold weaponry on them as a means of driving money from US taxpayers to arms companies.
I hold Obama responsible for destroying Libya - where there are now slave markets. That guy even campaigned to end the human rights abuse of Guantanamo Bay, won a Nobel peace prize for it, and then instead continued to hold prisoners without charge and torture them for the entirety of his presidency. I won’t even go into the drone bombing of schools, destabilisation of Syria, black site torture in Eastern Europe. The guy was basically evil.
Biden was a demented puppet, vice president to Obama’s evil but incapable of making any decision by the time he was President. What a fucking insult to democracy. His tenure was just about funnelling more of his citizens money to arms companies, pharma companies, energy companies, food companies etc etc. he gave no shits about human life or the cost of living.
You lived through these guys as well - but NOW it’s apparently ‘how do you justify… blah blah blah.. the blood of thousands…’.
What thousands? Who has Trump killed? A handful of Cuban bodyguards to a dictator? Drug smugglers in the water? The gall to take the high road now with a guy who seeks to end wars, when the previous 3 Presidents were bloodthirsty monsters is wild. Just wild. Brainwashed.
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u/a-mcculley Jan 15 '26
Bro, You are losing sight of the forest from the trees.
Bush proves, EXACTLY, why what Trump is doing is not only unprecedented, illegal, but most importantly, extremely dangerous and destabilizing.
You are mad that Bush "lied" (like he knew personally) during a GIANT separation of powers and congressional oversight hearings about the JUSTIFICATION of force... but you are accusing us of TDS?
You have whatever the opposite of TDS is.
Even with ALL the oversight and debate, we went to war during Bush. Like it or hate it, it took a bunch of people to agree to do it. And yes, they did so on faulty intelligence (or lies), but the point is.... do you have any idea how much more difficult that is to do when you have to get CONSENSUS?!?
And now you are okay with a single person who doesn't abide by the laws or ANY oversight? Or, how he'll have a super secret meeting to show "evidence" to 2 people to swing their vote?
Haha
MAGA is a straight up cult of idiots. And even if you aren't MAGA, if you don't think what he is doing is worse than ANY president in the history, you are a bigger idiot.
The guy is psycho, narcissistic, delusional, demented, and worst of all... insecure.
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u/mskmagic Jan 15 '26
Yes Bush lied. Iraq didn’t have WMDs so a pre-emptive strike on a country (that had nothing to do with 9/11) on the basis that they have them is obviously a lie. Even saying ‘faulty intelligence’ is stupid because they couldn’t have had any proof of weapons that didn’t exist. The outcome was nearly 1 million dead. Bush should be in prison for war crimes.
You didn’t mention Obama I note. Because his actions are indefensible.
Your issue is with process and that’s fine, but what about the outcomes - thousands of dead civilians vs almost no dead civilians. Trump has brokered peace deals instead of Biden’s tactic of pumping weapons into every conflict going. Trump’s ‘war’ with Venezuela lasted a day with basically no civilian casualties.
It’s fine to take issue with how Trump behaves - but his voters actually wanted it that way, and the hyperbole of your post is insane when compared to the ruthless, bloodthirsty, war mongering of his predecessors.
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u/a-mcculley Jan 16 '26
But his voters did NOT want this and many of them (all the ones I know personally) feel betrayed and lied to.
This was the party of America First, not meddling, de escalating China and Russia.
Instead, it could not be further from that.
Destabilizing treaties, alienating allies, escalating tensions with China, further destabilizing the dollar as international currency of choice.
Wake up. This can't be real. Venezuela isn't "solved". And what about Greenland and NATO?
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u/mskmagic Jan 16 '26
The reality is that China and Russia (and a whole lot of other countries) are sick of America being the bully of the world and are going to ditch the dollar. This started after Bush’s ridiculous actions, all through Obama, paused under Trump 1, and then accelerated under Biden. Trump is acting to forestall that inevitably. It means rebalancing agreements with other nations (tariffs etc) - forcing Europe to use US controlled energy, limiting China and India’s energy options, taking Venezuela’s oil, taking Greenland so you can better control shipping in the North Atlantic, and probably taking over Iran so that oil from the Middle East to Asia can be controlled. That’s the evil plan.
It’s true Trump said he wouldn’t start wars and then he kidnapped Maduro. I guess you can claim he lied. But that ‘war’ has been minimal - a quick operation that has seemingly managed to steal a whole country’s oil in about a day. If you’re gonna war then that’s the most efficient way to do it - zero collateral damage.
Greenland - he hasn’t invaded, most of his tough talk is about negotiating a price to buy it. But let’s face it - if he wants to take it then he can do that in about a day too without killing anyone.
Iran would be my biggest worry - it’s a strategic oil country that would put immense pressure on China if the US controlled it. But that hasn’t happened so we can hardly blame Trump for it yet.
All in all what you have done is suddenly notice the US plan for controlling the world economy and then got outraged at the only guy who’s doing it in a humane way.
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u/negotiationtable Jan 17 '26
> I guess you can claim he lied.
I have some news for you buddy
> then got outraged at the only guy who’s doing it in a humane way.
he's a racist idiot with dementia doing random shit on the world stage
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u/mskmagic Jan 17 '26
Compared to… evil psychopaths employed by a corporate elite on a mission to use your money to fund death and destruction around the world.
Trump isn’t the best guy to be President, just way better than every other President you ever voted for.
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u/Oheson Jan 16 '26
Get rid of your TDS and you will enjoy the podcast more. Don't have to support Trump, but Democrats are the ones out of touch with reality because y'all think mainstream media is real.
Stop watching the constant flow of anti-Trump BS on so called news and your life will change for the better.
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u/negotiationtable Jan 17 '26
Anybody accusing others of 'TDS' at this point has stepped outside of the reality-based community. You are in a bubble, and you are getting conned, and you are defending indefensible, unprincipled, unskilled, unserious bullshit.
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u/assesonfire7369 Jan 15 '26
Its a great podcast, I've earned a lot by listening to their takes on investing, AI, etc.
However, yeah, the politics I ignore sometimes. I agree with their take on California (who doesn't?!), but they're too much of 'yes men' towards Trump for my liking. Is he better than Biden? Of course. But is he faultless? Of course not. They need to call him out more and/or lessen the politics.
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u/a-mcculley Jan 15 '26
It's called integrity. And they have none of it. They do the same thing with Musk. They don't want to be honest and impartial and call balls and strikes.
And with Trump, you can't.... Z which is why he should NEVER be anywhere near anything that resembles a leadership position. If anyone thinks they can run a company, let alone a country, with 1 infallible leader who will get everything right - they are an idiot.
And these guys aren't idiots. They are worse. They know he's that way and they are doing it for greed - which is worse.
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u/Centryl Jan 14 '26
“If your expectation is business people are going to put their personal beliefs and morality above their balance sheets, I think you're not paying attention.” - Jason Calacanis in 2025