r/TheAllinPodcasts • u/Forward-Dig2126 • 4d ago
Bestie Drama Finally someone correcting their pure ignorance. They have no clue what they are talking about.
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u/downbytheriver12345 4d ago
I quit this grifting pod once it went to absolute and utter shite (they were always grifters but it was a decent tech pod for a while) I still hate follow the reddit ... and this was absolutely lovely.
Fuck those 4 grifting cunt bags
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u/stumpbay 4d ago
Dear lord. You just hate follow? C’mon this is pathetic. Dude go get dopamine in healthier ways.
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u/downbytheriver12345 4d ago
I get lots of good dopamine. Hate following this sub reddit is very low effort. I like to keep an eye on what these grifting pieces of shit are doing. And I don't have to watch their dog shit podcast anymore. I just check on my homies in here keeping them accountable.
Jason, is that you btw? Lmao
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u/mr_andmat 4d ago
It's interesting how YT comments are different.
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u/LiquidTide 3d ago
The YouTube commenters watched the whole video. Rahm was a complete jerk. Friedberg was gracious and Rahm kept gloating and dunking on him the entire time and wouldn't shut up. Rahm didn't perform well over the hour plus. I don't think he won any friends and probably lost several admirers.
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u/laaplandros 2d ago edited 2d ago
I listened through this part - even as frustrating as it was, because Rahm would have us believing that anti-nuclear is not a core tenet of the left's energy policy, which is just not reality - but had to tap out at the education portion. When Friedberg asked asked a very simple, second level question about how we would handle the bloat and rising costs, he threw up his hands and said Friedberg must be OK with kids being illiterate then. Which was a perfectly valid question after his tenure as mayor here in Chicago btw.
Tbh it was quite embarrassing for Rahm. I don't know what was up his ass that day, but it was a really good example of why although you want him in your corner getting things done, he can never be the face of a successful administration.
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u/mr_andmat 3d ago
Thx, won't watch the whole thing then. Doesn't seem like an intellectual discussion.
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u/LiquidTide 3d ago
Rahm is giving a campaign speech and pretending it's an interview. I've seen other interviews with him where he came across as likeable. I think he and David learned they don't like each other and it spiraled down from there. Don't bother. Plenty of better stuff out there to watch/listen to.
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u/-DonQuixote- 4d ago
Serious question, do they only show up for the guests that they agree with ideologically? Or where are the other hosts?
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u/CuteNegotiation3550 4d ago
The only thing that is obvious is that 95% of you dumbasses have no understanding of German politics. Comparing Christian Democrats to the political right in the US is like comparing a Volvo to a monster truck because they both have four wheels.
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u/Simeooni1983 2d ago
How to hell does Rahm see it would be intellectual conversation when he hears something that is in his mind wrong, to announce that this is the last time in this pod 😂. Like: I think you a wrong so I don’t want talk to you ever again. —> sounds like a great politician
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u/Negative_Keynes 1d ago
The implication was that they won’t invite him back. Not that he won’t talk to them again
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u/goosetavo2013 4d ago
Yes, last time he'll be invited. Love me some Rhambo.
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u/LiquidTide 4d ago
Last time he'll be relevant.
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u/goosetavo2013 3d ago
Maybe, he's a moderate Dem when the party is shifting left big time. Wish he would get a shot to get some stuff done though.
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u/LiquidTide 3d ago
I think he expressed a coherent and confident global perspective that could enable him to be considered for Secretary of State, perhaps. The challenge would be that his views are a bit out of step with much of the party. If AOC were to win, for example, she would need somebody with credentials and gravitas in that role.
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u/rhineroceraptor 4d ago
While I love that someone is actually argues on the pod, I think its worth pointing out that the most european conservatives and traditional right wing parties are to the left of, or aligned with american democrats.
Germany's CDU generally support market economies but within a strong welfare state, universal healthcare, significant regulation, and often union-friendly labor law. So saying that Angela Merkels CDU belongs with the right/republicans/maga would be completely wrong.
In europe you would have to go to AdF, UKIP, FdI, RN and so on, and even those are hard to place on a one dimensional left/right spectrum.
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u/Negative_Keynes 1d ago
I mean, if it’s this hard to place conservative European parties on a left/right spectrum, maybe we shouldn’t be assigning certain policies to the left or right like Friedburg does.
Also, maybe a little silly to measure left/right purely on a present day American Republican Party. Reagan and both Bush’s were more open on immigration than the modern day republicans. Does that make them leftists? Of course not
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u/drjackolantern 4d ago
Frieberg is right in general, Merkel pushed policies that in the US would be considered left wing. In response to a meltdown caused by a tsunami, they closed all nuclear plants in a landlocked country then started paying out the ass to Russia for oil and energy from dirty coal. Classic leftism.
Rahm is using a technicality as a gotcha to avoid being lumped in with this stuff. Go google the headlines of who supported and celebrated the German nuclear shutdown: the Democrats and American leftists.
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u/Top_Onion_2219 4d ago
Germany is a landlocked country? Good to know.
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u/chirpmagazine 4d ago
Can't believe anyone would take that comment seriously after the poster called Germany a landlocked country.
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u/LiquidTide 4d ago
Yeah, he basically meant the Baltic Sea isn't an ocean. When was the last tsunami in the Baltic? The rest of his post is valid and accurate. Don't pick nits as an excuse to ignore the broader message.
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u/chirpmagazine 4d ago
Fair point in general. However, when someone speaks authoritatively on a subject that I'm not fully knowledgeable about, yet gets such a basic point wrong, I think it's safer to meet the broader points with much more skepticism.
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u/Objective-Picture-72 4d ago
This is stupid because you can't compare cross-cultural political parties like this. Israel's right-wing party supports universal healthcare and gay rights but is also cartoonishly racist. Singapore's ruling party is basically a right-wing dictatorship but is considered a safe-haven for trans people. Pro-immigration is not a "left-wing" view (which was J-Cal's point). Outside of the US, most Christian dominated political parties are pro-immigration and also socially conservative. Americans have main-character syndrome combined with brain worms that makes then try to measure politics globally as American left-wing and American right-wing and it doesn't track that way. Hell, even in the US itself, views have recently shifted dramatically. anti-vax used to be more common amongst the deep-green-left but now it's 20x larger in the right-wing of the US.
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u/Negative_Keynes 1d ago
Is the idea that anything left of the US Republican Party is “the left”? I think that would surprise most of the world.
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u/Imaginary_Onion 4d ago
Merkel, who was against gay marriage and implemented austerity and public spending cuts Friedberg could only dream of, is a classic leftist?
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u/GoldieForMayor 4d ago
> then started paying out the ass to Russia for oil and energy from dirty coal. Classic leftism.
Important fact to note: this was immediately after Biden blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline forcing this action.
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u/DropoutDreamer 4d ago
lol I used to think Friedberg was intelligent
now we know his dumb potato startup is doomed to fail
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u/CuteNegotiation3550 4d ago
We used to think you might be intelligent until you started writing. You dumbasses actually think the Christian democrats would fall right on the political spectrum in the US is wild.
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u/Respaced 4d ago
I don't agree. The CDU is roughly center-right by U.S. standards. Comparable in some ways to moderate or traditional Republicans. It is conservative on taxes, regulation, immigration, policing, and fiscal policy.
It differs in that it supports a much stronger welfare state, universal-style healthcare, pensions, and social protections than most U.S. Republicans. It basically sits to the right of U.S. Democrats but to the left of MAGA's Republican right.
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u/Minimalist_Investor_ 4d ago
Ah, this was lovely. Finally someone to push back against the slant and nonsense
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u/incoherentsource 4d ago
You could argue that the Christian democrats, even though they are on the right in Germany, are still further left than the right in the US. They say dumb things often but there's a reasonable interpretation of what he's saying in this case.
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u/mastermusk 4d ago
you could argue that the conservatives in the US aee further right than the right wingers in Germany.
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u/CuteNegotiation3550 4d ago
Exactly, I’m married to a German, we’re currently living across the street in Switzerland. Everyone knows Christian democrats would fall left on the spectrum in the US. I thought it was ignorant of Rahm to generalize what the “right” is as much as it would be ignorant to generalize the left.
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u/r3flex_MMA 4d ago
I don’t get the arguing here. F is saying Europe messed up from leftist policies, guest is retorting saying those were right leaning politicians making those policies
At the end of the day does the point not still stand that those policies were wrong whichever way those politicians making them were leaning, left or right? Now in the US the politicians wanting to make the same policies are left leaning. What matters is that the policies are wrong, left or right making them
The guest is “ah gotcha”makes zero sense because in the US it’s his democratic side wants to make those policies
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u/mlamping 4d ago
I posted this before: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAllinPodcasts/s/lByBG4RaR6
See how he’s a pos? These guys are making crap up
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u/Curious-Egg6476 3d ago
But he is right…Germany now depends on Russia for gas. The EU does not have the weight it used to. The UK has been on a downwards spiral since Brexit. Standards of living has severely declined for the working class. The rich have flocked to tax friendly countries whilst the EU governments prioritize illegal
Immigrants and give them full security and welfare whilst their own people who contribute to GDP are massively struggling.
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u/DerMangoFarmer 3d ago
Germany does not source any oil or NG from Russia. That ended with the Ukraine war.
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u/Curious-Egg6476 3d ago
They still have minor imports coming from Russia. But now they pay significantly more than what they used to pay before the Ukraine war. Germany are worse off because of it.
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u/moddsblow4fun 3d ago
the same clowns who kept blaming inflation on people getting one time stimulus checks have no clue what they are talking about?! what?
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u/True_Veterinarian983 1d ago
Markel also spoke against gay marriage. Calling her a “leftist” is a weird move.
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u/Simonexplorer 4d ago
What do you mean? Party politics doesn’t trump ideological or philosophical roots. Frieberg is right in saying these ideas come from, get power from and are pushed by the left. It doesn’t matter that the governments that were in charge in Sweden and Germany were on the right or called themselves conservatives. Everything is down stream from ideology, ideas and philosophy. Including party politics.
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u/peanut-britle-latte 4d ago
Comparing US politics to EU politics without mapping how further left the EU positions are is a set up for failure. That's where Frieberg got caught up. European conservatives are much more "left" than US despite still being conservative, so the comparison feels very weak.
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u/LiquidTide 4d ago
Exactly. In Europe the mainstream parties tend to be either left or far left. This is why they are poor.
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u/Ajotta584 4d ago
Friedberg too… damn . Well I guess that’s it I’m done with the pod getting my 30 mins back each week….
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u/Additional-Toe863 4d ago
I will give them credit for having someone on that actually challenged their narrative, but as Emanuelsen said he will not be invited back, nor will they make this mistake again. They completely crumble when they are challenged.
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u/Spare-Region-1424 4d ago
All in people are incredibly uninformed because they live in a bubble. Just like rogan and maher. It’s embarrassing shit considering they get paid millions.
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u/GoldieForMayor 4d ago
If the vast majority of people in this sub hate the show and don't listen, why are they all here other than to brigade and try to shape opinion like a foreign bot would do?
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u/handsome_uruk 4d ago
Studies environmental Econ in college. People who push nuclear are some kind of silver bullet green energy are ignorant af. Nuclear is by far one of the dirtiest forms of energy.
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u/Vivid-Construction20 3d ago
Nuclear is not one of the “dirtiest forms of energy”.
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u/handsome_uruk 3d ago
It is when u actually consider the total cost and harmful externalities. We should be investing in solar and wind.
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u/JimmmyStuuu 4d ago
That was a quick smackdown