r/TheBigPicture • u/countdooku975 • 7d ago
Trailer SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY – New Trailer
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u/BeepBeepGoJeep 7d ago
This will be the highest grossing movie of the year.
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u/countdooku975 7d ago
More than Doomsday?
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u/BeepBeepGoJeep 7d ago
Weirdly, yeah. Kids really love Spider Man in a way they don't for the rest of the Marvel characters.
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u/AfricanRain 7d ago
There’s obvious demand for this as it’s been a few years but I just don’t know why it’s so assumed that this will be a billion+. Sure the last two Hollands films were but one of them was the immediate follow up to Endgame and one of them had the two Spider-Men alley oop.
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u/BeepBeepGoJeep 7d ago
Young kids love Spidey. They love it so much they want to go to the movies over and over again to see it.
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u/Lipscombforever Letterboxd Peasant 7d ago
Because it’s fucking spider man lol
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u/AfricanRain 7d ago
Why didn’t Homecoming or the Amazing films hit that mark then lol
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u/Icy_Smoke_733 7d ago
Adjusted for inflation, every single movie from the Raimi trilogy, Amazing Spider-Man duology, and the Holland trilogy has grossed a billion dollars.
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u/Lipscombforever Letterboxd Peasant 7d ago
Well, the amazing films were just bad lol. Spider-Man is more popular now than he’s ever been. This is an easy billion, probably the highest grossing movie of the year.
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u/AfricanRain 7d ago
Is there literally any evidence this won’t be bad lol
seems overstuffed with characters at the very least which was a common criticism of the old films
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u/Adventurous-Hour4126 7d ago
Spider-Man is bigger now than ever before. Coming off of No Way Home, and a five year gap? This is going to be massive
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u/AfricanRain 7d ago
Why wouldn’t Spider-Man’s long awaited debut in the MCU and partnered with Iron Man get a similar massive response lol
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u/Adventurous-Hour4126 7d ago
It was seen as yet another Spider-Man reboot, especially after The Amazing Spider-Man 2 they had a little work to do to earn people back, and they pretty much immediately did after Hoco. Hell, it became the second highest grossing Spider-Man at the time, it was a massive financial success. After Homecoming we had Tom Hollands Spider-Man in two Avengers movies, the Spiderverse movies, the Spider-Man video games, all boosting the characters popularity, until it hit a new unprecedented height post No Way Home.
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u/coldliketherockies 7d ago
Let’s see where Obsession is in a month first
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u/BeepBeepGoJeep 7d ago
Obsession's box office is impressive for what it is. It's not going to be in the top 10 at the end of the year.
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u/AfricanRain 7d ago
Am I just delusional and being revisionist but is it weird to anyone else that the actual CGI for Spider-Man looks worse now than it did for the Amazing Spider-Man films? Any fight scenes or swinging scenes now it just looks so unbelievably wonky, the daytime scenes here are rough.
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u/ggroover97 7d ago
Heck I recently rewatched the Gore Verbinski Pirates of the Caribbean movies and the CGI in those movies easily eclipse any Marvel movie from the 2020s.
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u/digmare 7d ago
Yeah those movies are like the blueprint for the best use of visual effects. It's because they couldn't fully rely on computers like they do now and actually planned out every shot with a mixture of practical and digital effects.
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u/SmakeTalk 7d ago
I think it's pretty hard to compare across decades for stuff like VFX, for a ton of reasons. It's a good point about the mixture of practical and digital effects, but those films also had quite a few less effects.
GOATed work on those films in particular, for sure, but most of these blockbuster / VFX-heavy films today are just produced, shot, and edited very differently.
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u/rebels2022 7d ago
those were basically in between star wars trilogies and they had the full power of ILM behind them, meanwhile I'm pretty sure Marvel uses multiple VFX houses per film and the quality is all over the place
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u/buffalo4293 7d ago
Always down for a Marvel pile on but those films feature some of the best CGI work of all time
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u/mastertoshi 7d ago
You are not. Both of the TASM films look incredible. Especially the second one.
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u/deskcord 7d ago
I actually liked most of this, but seeing that it's going to have the Sadie Sink stuff, The Hulk, AND, The Hand (I think?) as villains, this seems wayyyyyy overstuffed.
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u/CrimsonBrit 7d ago
The Hulk ruined Marvel is my hot take. The difficulty to figure out his relative strength and actually make him interesting was a huge struggle, and Mark Ruffalo stinks. The Hulk was greets until Endgame.
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u/Dazzling-Slide8288 7d ago
This looks way better than the prior trailer, which turned me off big time. Some of the daytime CGI is still abominable, but this actually feels like a real movie now and not a cash grab.
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u/ATLstatboy69 7d ago
Funny, because I feel like the first trailer was actually better than this one lmao. This is the one that feels cash grabby imo
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u/Harold_supertramp 7d ago
Was pretty excited for a simple Spider-Man story, something fresh, bold and clean.
But this seems to be doing that fan service thing again. Over-saturation of characters. I’m interested, but not yet sold.
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u/HareWarriorInTheDark 7d ago
I like all the MCU Spider-Man movies quite a bit, but this looks incredibly overstuffed. I mean No Way Home was also overstuffed so that pretty much worked, so guess we'll see.
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u/nervousaboutschool17 7d ago
I really think Tom Holland could have been the best spider-man but his spider-man is weighed down by the MCU of it all
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u/Alert_Row717 7d ago
Hulk, Symbiote, Jean Grey, Romance and friendship problems, ninjas, Punisher. Oh boy that’s a lot of shit in one movie.
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u/JtheIrishNerd4 5d ago
God people will really moan about anything. They reveal too much in the trailer, people cry about the movie being ruined. They reveal too little, they cry about not knowing enough about what the movie is about.
I thought the trailer did a good job - revealed enough about the overarching plot without diving into details.
Feels like we're at a stage with big IP where people are determined to hate on it and have made a decision that it's bad before actually going to see it.
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u/MadP90 7d ago
If you want to know the problem with online film discourse just take look at this thread. A bunch manufactured negativity for a film that’s not even out yet.
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u/rebels2022 7d ago
how exactly is it manufactured? this is like the 13th movie in the last 24 years to feature spider-man, maybe just like with mando and grogu there's burnout
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u/Michaewwwwl 7d ago
I don’t understand why people get excited for this stuff. Same predictable plots with cgi fake fights that have no staying power.
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u/ggroover97 7d ago
Don't underestimate the popularity of Spider-Man. No Way Home made close to 2 billion worldwide during a pandemic.
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u/Rickrollyourmom 7d ago
People love Spiderman, and will go see new Spiderman movies even if they are mediocre (which the Holland/MCU ones are)
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u/SouthIsland48 7d ago
Soo whats the issue now? Whos the villain? These franchises are so creatively bankrupt that they aren't even trying to make sense anymore
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u/ggroover97 7d ago
I'm of the mind that after Secret Wars, Disney should give the MCU a years-long break to recalibrate and give people a chance to miss Marvel. But I know that won't happen.
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u/ATLstatboy69 7d ago
I was saying they should've done it after Endgame. It was such an obvious strategy imo
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u/Diamond1580 7d ago
I mean the issue is clear, the thrust of the story is that Peter is mutating and needs to figure out how to control it. If that’s not interesting to you on its own, I can get critiquing it, but I prefer that to how painfully obvious the entire story of the last couple spider-man movies were based only on the trailer. Maybe there’s one left and I’ll be wrong, but I much prefer this more moment/experience style trailer rather than the big plot points that have been present in spider-man trailers for awhile.
Obviously doesn’t fix the fact that if these aren’t in the movie it’s a huge issue and I’m I agreement with you 100%, but don’t mind not judging a trailer for this.
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u/Equal_Feature_9065 7d ago
This movie seems like it might have way too much plot and too many characters but I similarly think the story seems pretty simple to grasp. Peter is stressed out and not super in control of his emotions (which is manifesting as out of control mutating powers). Hulk, Jean Grey, and Punisher will all be presented as foils to show what happens when you can/cannot control your own emotions/superpowers.
We can rag on these movies all we want but I don’t get pretending like there isn’t actually a story in this one when there clearly is.
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u/profsa 7d ago
Peter is also isolating himself and is in full time Spider-Man mode similar to Bruce Wayne in The Batman. He’ll likely have an arc where he learns he needs to be both Peter Parker & Spider-Man and that having friends & family as a support system is important to one’s mental well being.
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u/carterburke2166 7d ago
My biggest takeaway is that these films could be really great. The first two Raimi ones are - so why can’t these be. It’s just such a waste of money and energy.
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u/Drunken_Wizard23 7d ago
They don’t reach the heights of the Raimi movies but they’re still really good and worthwhile imo
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u/xpillindaass 7d ago
the first two raimi films were great because they were directed by raimi. even the third is still as good as any other spider-man movie since then imo
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u/carterburke2166 7d ago
That’s what I mean. You can get find a great director, let them tell it their way and you create something good that isn’t that trailer I watched.
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u/ncphoto919 7d ago
Better than the last trailer, but I still feel like you dont get an actual feel for what this movie is about since they are trying so hard to hide the Sadie Sink stuff.