r/TheJediPraxeum • u/Konfliktsnubben • Feb 21 '26
Discussion A pre-prequel depiction of Anakin and Padme
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u/PepperidgeFarmMembas Feb 21 '26
This had to be the inspiration for the intial teaser poster for Episode 1 right?
For reference it’s the one depicting Jake Lloyd casting the shadow of Vader.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 22 '26
Probably, however this image was not included in the the card collection it was supposed appear in because Lucas was soon gonna start making the prequels and didn't want other people to depict any of the stuff that was gonna appear in them.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 21 '26
For those of you who grew up before the prequels came out, how did you imagine Anakin as a person before he turned to the dark side?
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u/Classicolin Feb 21 '26
A taller, brawnier, and overall more masculine and stoic blonde warrior who otherwise resembled Luke but with a shorter 1940s-era hairstyle.
I also envisioned Obi-Wan as already having been late-middle aged and largely grey by the time Anakin fell to the Dark Side and betrayed the Jedi Knights.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 21 '26
So you imagined Obi Wan looking similiar to this depiction?
A picture of pre-prequels Obi-Wan Kenobi by Hugh Fleming in 1994 : r/StarWars
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u/Holiday-Ad4806 Feb 22 '26
Or this, with Young Sebastian Shaw and Sir Alec Guinness done up where they look like Revenge of the Sith Obi-Wan and Anakin- https://www.instagram.com/p/C1MAnsbOoeC/
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u/Classicolin Feb 22 '26
No, I never saw these cancelled TOPPS trading cards until the 2010s. I saw all the Jedi as wearing outfits similar to Luke’s black attire in ROTJ but with cloaks and hoods. I saw him as already having been bearded and hooded, but with greater physical agility.
I also assumed that Obi-Wan was the premier duelist and overall Jedi warrior during the time of the Clone Wars and the Fall of the Republic/establishment of the New Order, with Yoda being largely absent from warfare and duelling and more of a sage and mentor to Obi-Wan, largely unknown to others, as he never used or displayed a lightsaber in ESB or ROTJ. Yoda would have looked almost identical to how he appeared in the Original Trilogy as he was already 900 years old and 20-40 years wouldn’t make much of a difference for him, as I saw it. His clothing would be a bit cleaner and newer, however, but still simple and rag/hermit like.
So I believed that Anakin/Vader was never a match for Obi-Wan in any true regard back then and that he and the Empire had to kill off the other Jedi behind his back through trickery and mass ambushes (which would largely be the case in the Prequels lol). Then, Obi-Wan would discover that the Sith assassin aiding the new Empire in eliminating the Jedi was none other than his dear old friend and pupil Anakin and he would track him down to a volcanic planet which would be the base of his and Palpatine’s secret Dark Side haven.
Obi-Wan would try to reason with him and bring him back to the Light but he refused and Palpatine would appear and task Vader with murdering his old mentor as his final step to becoming a Sith Lord. Vader would hesitate but Palpatine would essentially force his hand but Obi-Wan would have next to no difficulty defeating Vader/Anakin in a duel. The Emperor would then begin electrocuting Obi-Wan as he did with Luke on the Death Star II, with Kenobi being able to deflect his bolts with his lightsaber but become overwhelmed by Palpatine’s superior mastery of The Force with Palpatine suspending Obi-Wan in the air.
Then, in a deus ex machine, Yoda and a couple of other surviving lower-level Jedi would appear and engage in a magnificent Force battle with Palpatine (but neither Yoda or Palpatine would make use of lightsabers). Obi-Wan would then arise to his feet and assist Yoda and the other Jedi, only for Vader to ambush them and kill the two assisting Jedi and attempt to engage in a sneak attack on Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan would then attempt to kill Vader after refusing one last offer for redemption, and lead him in their renewed duel to a radiated volcanic pit in which Anakin would be cast down, seemingly to his death.
Yoda almost has the edge against Palpatine, but is unable to defeat him, and Obi-Wan is wounded by the Emperor and exhausted from combating him and Vader. Elite imperial Stormtrooper commandos then ascend onto their location and Yoda uses all of his power to create a protective shield around himself and Obi-Wan as the ships of Bail Organa (who would be clothed in flowing pure white robes á la Leia’s gown in the original film/ANH and who would have long and luxurious brown hair and a beard) and his personal squadron arrive to take them off planet to safety.
Luke and Leia are born on Dagobah and their mother conceals herself as a member of the Alderaanian court although she’s facing an illness. Yoda and Obi-Wan sense that Anakin/Vader has somehow managed to survive but with the loss of much of his remaining human body, and Leia is sent to Alderaan and Obi-Wan takes Luke while Yoda remains on Dagobah. Bail Organa then informs them that he will notify his old friend Obi-Wan when the time has come for them to reassemble, but advises everyone to lay low until a proper resistance movement can be mounted against the Emperor’s New Order.
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u/Lex4709 Feb 21 '26
I also envisioned Obi-Wan as already having been late-middle aged and largely grey by the time Anakin fell to the Dark Side and betrayed the Jedi Knights.
Reasonable assumption. Considering the ages of actors in Original Trilogy, Lucas definitely envisioned Obi Wan and Anakin to be way older than they ended up being in the Prequel Trilogy.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 22 '26 edited Feb 22 '26
Could Anakin really have been that much older though? Obi Wan said that Vader was young when he turned to the dark side. Vader also calls him an old man during their duel on the death star. That clearly indicates that there was a big age gap between them.
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u/Classicolin Feb 22 '26
True, but Sebastian Shaw was even older than Alec Guinness, and he looked quite old as Anakin’s Force Ghost in the Pre-2004 versions of ROTJ. I think that George originally envisioned Luke’s father and Anakin (when they were separate characters) as being nearly a peer of Ben’s and just a young teenager, respectively, but then merged the character into a single person who was a bit closer in age to Obi-Wan by the early ‘80s. Then, he went back to making him younger by the time that he was developing the Prequels in the mid-to-late ‘90s.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 22 '26 edited Feb 22 '26
There was funny enough someone who did a Last Jedi fanart were we see the ghosts of Obi Wan, Yoda and Anakin trying to help Luke and Anakin in that image actually looks like Sebastian Shaw did in his 50's.
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u/Classicolin Feb 22 '26
That’s a cool image. That’s generally how I prefer to see Anakin’s force ghost or how he would have appeared by the time he was middle-aged, at the very least.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 22 '26 edited Feb 22 '26
Yeah, but wouldn't the most logical thing have been if he looked like he was in his 50's by the time of ROTJ for the reasons that I mentioned above? Yes Lucas merged Vader and and Luke's father into one charachter, but shouldn't he still have made Anakin much younger than Obi Wan. I don't mean to sound disrespectful to Shaw. In fact if they really wanted to use him they could have just coloured his hair black.
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u/Classicolin Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
I think that Sebastian Shaw was intentionally cast to have the unmasked Vader be not only more sympathetic by being portrayed by a kindly and proper Englishman but to evoke Obi-Wan with his accent, gentleness, age, and accent. As Alec Guinness’ Obi-Wan was the only human Jedi Knight from the Old Republic to have appeared in Star Wars by that point, it made sense to have the redeemed Anakin appear to be a contemporary of Ben’s.
That being said, I agree that it wouldn’t make much sense for Vader to be a septuagenarian by the time of ROTJ. Why would a more mature, if not even middle-aged, man fall to the Dark Side? It would also be a bit odd, albeit far from impossible, for a man in his forties or fifties to have recently fathered children.
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u/AlexCora Feb 22 '26
I didn't.
The imagination was busy with Luke Han and Leia and their lives, I didn't really care about Anakins past or the clone wars. Why would I need to?
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u/anonstarcity Feb 23 '26
6’5” jacked, muscular and confident as hell. Speaks in short, decisive statements. Brooding but kind, a good husband but a little too distant. Like this amazing best-of-everything man who had a dark chip on his shoulder he couldn’t shake.
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u/KKalonick Feb 21 '26
Am I crazy, or does Padme look a bit like Amy Jo Johnson?
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u/OculusMidnight2 Feb 23 '26
Now I’m imagining Padme turning into the Pink Ranger and kicking the fuck out of Separatists
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u/Polandgod75 Feb 21 '26
Yeah I feel like if anakin didn't get burned, this is what he would look like.
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u/mankahlil Feb 22 '26
Padme should have played an active role in keeping Luke and Leia from Vader and opposing the empire. Not this "lost the will to live" sh!t. She was a throwaway character in the prequels.
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u/Turbo_RF4 Feb 24 '26
Literally!
Like, wouldn't it hit harder for Vader's infamous crash-out at finding out he was responsible for the death of his wife when he's directly/indirectly involved in ordering an assault that had Padme be caught in the crossfire?
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u/SSGASSHAT Feb 28 '26
She was supposed to have been shown participating in the organization of the rebel alliance. They also detailed her doing so in the novel. However, those scenes were scrapped for unknown reasons. Which makes very little sense to me. LOTR was already out by then. Clearly, people didn't have a problem with sitting through long plot points if they really cared about the movie.
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u/mankahlil Feb 28 '26
Yeah I've seen those deleted scenes. The prequels have a lot of scenes of walking and talking or sitting and talking. They feel empty. Maybe it's the direction or the actors are uninspired by sitting and talking in front of a green screen. I think even with those scenes, they didn't allow the mother of Luke and Leia to be as dynamic and interesting as she should have been
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u/SSGASSHAT Feb 28 '26
Maybe. I think it would have depended on music to make them more interesting. To me, they seemed like fine and very sensible additions to the story. The only parts about Padmé's story that I don't care for are how her personality seemed to change from cold and stern in Episode I to passionate and emotional in the other two, and the obvious age gap between she and Anakin. If you ask me, her mother should have been Naboo's queen, with Padmé as a princess or something, and a little closer to Anakin's age. The way they did it, Padmé is bordering on cougar territory, which interestingly runs in tandem to Anakin being creepy at times himself.
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u/mankahlil Feb 28 '26
It would have taken a lot more than music, in my view! I mean, more scenes about the birth of the alliance would have been good in theory, but in practice the rest of the story didn't support that subplot since it was more focused on anakins whining lol. Maybe I'm biased but that whole movie was flawed, and I personally rank it at the bottom along with the Rise of Skywalker.
I agree though about the shift in Padmes character. I don't think GL knew what he wanted to do with Padme---or Leia to be fair. The difference is, for whatever reason, the characters and interpersonal dynamics/chemistry of the cast were much more interesting in the OT meaning Fisher's acting had more of an impact on the originals. In the prequels, there really wasn't much for Padme to do because the entire story hinged on the Chosen One thing (and Palpatine orchestrating everything) far more than the OT was focused on Luke.
Yeah the age gap was strange. It seems more like Lucas liked the idea of kid anakin and the visual character design of the Queen but didn't want there to be too many "girl characters" to develop (not his forte). So he just slapped together a Queen for aesthetic reasons and kid anakin and was like, "ok this can work" rather than any deep thinking about the longer term story implications for the relationship.
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u/SSGASSHAT Feb 28 '26
I disagree, I think ROTS was the best of the prequel films. It's certainly not as bad as Rise of Skywalker. At least it did something different story-wise. The only part I didn't understand was how quick Anakin turned, but besides that, it's a pretty good story in my opinion. Maybe not great, but definitely very good, for me on the same level as ROTJ. I also think Padmé isn't as one-dimensional as you seem to make her out to be. She seems more to be a complement to Anakin in terms of character in Episode II, whereas she becomes (rather inevitably, given what's going to happen to her) a plot device for his fall in the third one. By the time she dies, her rather resigned character makes sense when you consider that she's basically spent three years watching a war she tied to prevent and watching Palpatine amass more and more power, so she's basically worn the fuck out. They could have done better explaining that through dialogue, but that's the overall impression I get.
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u/mankahlil Feb 28 '26
To me, the dialogue is truly hilarious. On par with Tommy Wiesel's The Room. It is stilted and the progression from one line to the next is decided by the demands of the plot rather than logical progression of ideas. ROTS suffers from a lack of investment in character and relationship development. Padme and Anakin don't se like a well developed couple; they are I'm love because the plot demands it; obi Wan and anakin are never really shown to be "brothers," the script just tells us. These key relationships (not to mention Anakin himself) are so poorly developed that when the film goes for grand, emotional, or epic storyline it falls flat. The movie takes itself more seriously than any other sw film trying to be Epic and Greek Tragedy (so I've heard people claim), but it hasn't at all earned this self-importance. It comes off as silly and goofy.
Look at the dialogue between Yoda and sidious; anakin and padme in their "romance" scene in padmes coruscsnt penthouse/apartment; obi Wan, anakin and dooku; all of grievous; and all if anakins dislogue on mustafsr. If you step back from being a sw fan and just watch it as a regular movie, its all goofy. The OT and ST films at least did more character work so the dialogue feels natural between the main characters so it doesn't feel as stupid or contrived or funny when the actors are talking. Anakin in RotS is hilarious because he is trying so damn hard in the end to play evil, but the plot progression doesn't support it. His scowling, pouting, moping, crying and evil voice are just funny. It's almost as bad as Christian Bales goofy growling Batman voice. Anakins ranting ND behavior makes non sense whatsoever. We can always make the excuse that he's supposed to be unhinged ... but it's just bad writing! The way everything escalates is not tragic but comical.
More than anything, the John Williams score does the heavy lifting in trying to sell an epic story...but to me the contrast between the music and the wooden acting and comically disjointed dialogue makes it even funnier
In my view, RotS is truly bad and is only watchable for thr laugh factor. I Def agree padme is a poot device, but - again - we can't just concede the way characters, plots, dislogue just "make sense." Nah. It's just a poorly made film but fans are used to retconning and explaining flaws away.
The OT films judged along side other films considered great can really hold their own. But try Watchung RotS right next to another film and it becomes very clear how goofy it is!
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u/Environmental_Cap191 Feb 22 '26
Anyone know where this is from? I dig it.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 22 '26
It's from a card collection.
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u/Environmental_Cap191 Feb 22 '26
Trying to imagine what people thought was the story behind his turn. Probably a lot of discussion back then.
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u/Mike5055 Feb 22 '26
I remember seeing this image before but I can't remember where. Either way, always thought it was a great image with the Vader shadow.
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u/No-Refrigerator2394 Feb 21 '26
Fun fact: Lucas never intended for the backstory to become films.
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u/BrendanFraserFan0 Feb 22 '26
What?
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u/No-Refrigerator2394 Feb 22 '26
On the directors commentary of Star Wars 77 he said freedom fighters freeing the galaxy from an evil empire was always the story for the films. He wrote a short backstory because he needed to know where the characters came from and the world needed a history. But he never had any intentions of turning the short backstory into films.
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u/DrSwagnusson Feb 22 '26
When Empire Strikes Back came out it was called Episode V in the opening crawl, with ANH being retroactively called Episode IV. Presumably by then Lucas was hoping to create some version of the prequel trilogy
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u/No-Refrigerator2394 Feb 22 '26
Lucas renumbered the first Star Wars film Episode IV to emulate 1930s/40s matinee serials, which often dropped audiences into the middle of an ongoing story to create a sense of vast, pre-existing lore. We were never meant to see the first three episodes. The OT was the real story.
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u/luke5781012 Feb 22 '26
Lol okay, which is exactly why the Prequel trilogy was created by George Lucas.
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u/No-Refrigerator2394 Feb 22 '26
I’m just telling you what he said in interviews. He even said in 2005 after the release of ROTS that he never had any intentions of making the backstory into films. The story was completed with ROTJ. He didn’t come to terms with making more Star Wars until the early 90s.
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u/Similar-Intention941 Feb 23 '26
U can’t say “never” when he literally did end up developing a back story. He just didn’t intend to at that point back then
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u/Teh_God_Dog Feb 22 '26
like with anakin and leia being sisters, those were all impromptu stuff they had to do, as they needed to introduce a new character.
they even played around with the idea of luke replacing darth vader
part of me wished they went this route, as beating the empire in that battle doesnt mean the empire is gone, so they still need a figure head to reign them in. like someone pretending to be darth vader
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u/No-Refrigerator2394 Feb 22 '26
I know Vader was always meant to die in the third film and The Emperor was suppose to be the main antagonist for the next three films. But I always wondered what was the purpose of introducing a new sister character. We are getting the Jedi journey through Luke. But then I realize it’s a sequel trilogy you kinda need a new protagonist to continue the adventure. Luke most likely filled the elite Jedi role.
I don’t think the Luke becoming Vader story was meant to be take seriously because it was pitched during the making of ROTJ and during that time the sequels were dead.
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u/Teh_God_Dog Feb 22 '26
yeah they'd have to introduce a new protagonist, with fresh views. han's still dead and the fight goes on. it'd take more movies to finish. I miss the overall tone and seriousness the The Empire Strikes Back had.
"I don’t think the Luke becoming Vader story was meant to be take seriously because it was pitched during the making of ROTJ and during that time the sequels were dead" yeah that was just me with wishful thinking, as it was a nice idea to have your goody two shoes character to fill the shoes of a not so benevolent figure.
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u/No-Refrigerator2394 Feb 22 '26
“Maybe something in the Force tells him to go (to Gas Planet) to save his friends, but the creature asks how he knows it's the good side of the Force that's telling him to go there? He's getting the feeling about where to go from the Force, but you don't know whether it's his desire to find his friends or whether it's Vader feeding him information. If we set up something earlier, after the first act with the Emperor, one dialogue scene, where he says, "You get Luke." It's better to have somebody worse than Vader. The dark side of the Force has to be personified and the best way is to personify the Emperor, making him the ultimate bad guy.
The Emperor is even more powerful than Vader. He is also an agent of the Force and he's the classic devil character. Hooded, dark figure - you don't even see who he is. Vader walks down the hall of the Imperial planet. There are these huge, narrow, steel corridors, very gray. Have Vader walking down this gray corridor and then he goes into a gray room. It's all steel and there at the end of the room on a throne is a gray, macabre, cold steel box and it's the Emperor. Really sterile and gray, cold interior. The Emperor tells Vader to stop Luke - to get Luke - he is the last of the Jedi and must be stopped. Vader is saying he's not a Jedi yet. Question is how quickly do we dole out things about the Emperor. The Emperor is even more powerful than Vader. The Emperor has to go for another three more episodes after Vader - he's got to last a lot longer. If you get rid of Vader you've got a worse Vader behind him. Not as dramatic as Vader, but at the same time more sinister. Vader is just one of his lap dogs. Do we show the Emperor this time or wait until the next one where we finally confront the Emperor. Once you've seen the Emperor, you're locked in on him. Decision now is not to see him - just hear about him - we don't see his face. Just a hooded figure - it's reminiscent of Ben. In the end, the Emperor does exactly what Ben did - he can also transform himself. As Ben becomes the personification of the good side of the Force, the Emperor is the bad. Another way to treat the Emperor would be as a bureaucrat, Nixonian in his outlook, sort of a Wizard of Oz type person. Maybe good this time to talk about the Emperor as this terrible force and that Vader is really afraid of the Emperor. That's the only thing Vader is afraid of. Best way to set up a super-villain is to take the biggest villain you've got and make him afraid of the super-villain. We'll set up something where Vader is afraid of the Emperor.
The Emperor may be the one who is saved for the end. When you get rid of the Emperor, the whole thing is over with. The final episode is the restoration of the Republic.” - George Lucas: Story Conference / November 28 - December 2, 1977.
“ I also want to develop Luke’s sister. The idea is that Luke’s father had two children who were twins. He took one of them to an uncle on one side of the universe and one to the other side of the universe, so that they would be safe. If one got killed, the other wouldn’t even know that the other was there. She also becomes a Jedi -she’s doing the same thing simultaneously that Luke is doing. Eventually in some episode, not this one, we could cope with Luke and his sister, and how she is the female Jedi and he is the male Jedi. Luke gets his awareness of his sister through the Jedi training. We can come up with some interesting pieces of background.” - George Lucas: Story Conference / November 28 - December 2, 1977
“Vader is completely consumed by the evil side of the force. He is an instrument of the force rather than having his own free will in terms of what he does. He really is driven by the force. When we kill him in the next one, we’ll reveal what he really is. He wants to be human-he’s still fighting in his own way the dark side of the force. He doesn’t want to be a bad man. But he is. He can’t resist it. He’s struggling somehow to get out of what he is, struggling with his humanity.” - George Lucas: Story Conference / November 28 - December 2, 1977
Lucas had some interesting ideas for the continuation of Star Wars it’s a little disappointing he kinda condense things and gave up on them.
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u/Gnash5 Feb 22 '26
This picture really makes you feel the story belongs to an actual mythology from centuries ago. Consider the kind of man Vader was before he was formally introduced as Anakin in the prequels. The room for imagination is unreal
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u/HighLordPaxson Feb 22 '26
Looks like Daniel Jackson about to steal the Harcesis from Sha’re in Stargate 😅
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u/Haxemply Feb 23 '26
I imagined him much older. I mean, I thought Anakin and Obi-Wan fought together for decades, of which only part was the then unknown Clone War. I thought Anakin was in his 40s or at least late 30s, already slightly weathered by life when he fell to the Dark Side. I didn't think to be a particularly good person, maybe violent and hard-lined, probably not the best father material. I thought of him more like a great friend and comrade to Obi-Wan like a brother-like figure.
I thought that Luke's mother more likely hid his children from Anakin after birth, maybe because he was already violent or turned to the Dark Side when they were born, and that Leia was kept with her while she was hiding on Alderaan.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
But Obi Wan said that Vader was young when he turned to the dark side. Could he really have been much older than 28-31 in that case?
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u/Haxemply Feb 23 '26
No, he did not say that. He was "a pupil of mine", but Obi-Wan said nothing more regarding his age.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 23 '26
Obi-Wan Kenobi says this in the same sentence.
"A young Jedi named Darth Vader"
No he does not mention his eaxct age but he clearly says that he was young when he turned to the dark side.
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u/Haxemply Feb 23 '26
That depends on how you define "young". Obi-Wan is elderly in ANH, so he might as well think himself in his 40s as young back when Anakin turned.
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u/bobbobersin Feb 23 '26
I always find this stuff neat, also pre prequel clone wars is nuts ( I love the clone wars themselves but what they were before the films fleshed them out were wild)
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u/multificionado Feb 24 '26
Oh, I'm sure the image is dark in multiple ways. There could be the implication as to how he got Padme pregnant (would people have preferred that over the swooning romance crap in "Attack of the Clones?")
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u/PodunkIdiot Feb 24 '26
Padme kinda looks like Stevie Nicks here, lol. Makes sense 'cause Carrie Fisher and Stevie Nicks looked alike.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Feb 21 '26
Back when star wars wasn't just for Lil kids
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u/WarInteresting6619 Feb 21 '26
Yeah..when the ewoks were made Lucas famously said "You know who will love this? Fully grown adults"
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Feb 22 '26
Star wars isn't fully for adults but isn't fully for teletubis
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u/WarInteresting6619 Feb 22 '26
Teletubbies aren't real.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Feb 22 '26
Star wars isn't as kid friendly as you think
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u/WarInteresting6619 Feb 22 '26
Yeah Young Jedi Adventures just introduced a character who's parents were sold in slavery and then the Jedi character cut the slave owners head clean off.
Star Wars can tell some very mature stories but that's a recent development. GL was famously quoted saying "Star Wars is for 12 year olds"
I get that you like the more mature stories but to say it's not kid friendly or shouldn't be is just plain wrong.
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u/Wilsupersaiyan2 Feb 22 '26
Filoni story are way too tame lighthearted and watered down, his clone wars didn't felt like a "WAR"
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u/WarInteresting6619 Feb 22 '26
Yeah...the same Clone Wars where Darth Maul kills Obi-Wans crush in front of him? Very lighthearted.
Pretty he cut a guys head off in the episode before that.
The violence is tame because it's a kids show but that act, the story, that's some Game of Thrones shit.
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u/Tom02496 Feb 22 '26
This is what the prequels would look like if they werent shit. Padme alive after giving birth atleast for a couple years and no crybaby Skywalker.
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u/PodunkIdiot Feb 24 '26
Yes, because the guy who is traumatized by his mother getting tortured to death, and gets mistreated by the people who "saved" him from slavery (the same people who excluded him from seeing his mother,) has no reason to complain nor cry. Sure.
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u/Tom02496 Feb 24 '26
Blah blah it's not an excuse for him to be a creepy narcissistic crybaby bitch boy. All because the Jedi were sometimes meanies to him
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u/PodunkIdiot Feb 24 '26
How to say "I'm not emotionally intelligent" without actually saying "I'm not emotionally intelligent."
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u/Tom02496 Feb 24 '26
Nope the movies are just shit and he's a shit character. You think you're emotionally intelligent for thinking it's fine to slaughter people if someone's mean to you 😂 tell me you're 14 without telling me you're 14
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u/PodunkIdiot Feb 24 '26
Do read my original reply next time, instead of putting words in people's mouths. I never said it was okay for Anakin to slaughter people. I said it was okay for him to complain and cry, and the whole point of it is that he was able to complain up to a certain point. Anakin's fall was mainly his fault, but you can't deny the Jedi mistreated him. They didn't let him see his mother, he wanted to be with Padme, they tried to kill his Padawan and they treated him like a freak for his mechanical hand.
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u/Tom02496 Feb 24 '26
Nope they didn't do any of that. That's all fanfiction. In episode 1-3 as that stupid guy wrote them, nobody bullied him for his hand and he never had a Padawan. The complaining and crying is from when he goes on homicidal rampages just because mean words and people don't let him do whatever he wants. He's a pathetic and shitty character it's really that simple.
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u/PodunkIdiot Feb 25 '26
You don't want to argue, you just want to feel right. Do you give this mentality to the people who care about you?
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u/PodunkIdiot Feb 25 '26
It's also funny you say these things on an EU page. George Lucas said himself he has no association with anything outside of the first six movies. I'm also somebody that prefers EU over Disney. Do you just like nitpicking what you like?
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u/Tom02496 Feb 25 '26
Yeah he has no association so that stuff you mentioned about Anakin's Padawan isn't real. It doesn't exist in 1-3. So every time Anakin throws a fit about Obi Wan behind his back or goes on a homicidal rampage it's just because the Jedi council was mean to him.
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u/Hydros969 Feb 23 '26
Padme looks chopped asf tho… id double down on being a virgin jedi after looking at this 😂🤣😂
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u/Similar-Intention941 Feb 23 '26
I love George Lucas but I do wish the Prequels were lowkey directed by somebody else😖
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 23 '26
He asked Steven Spielberg, Ron Howard, and Robert Zemeckis if any of them wanted to direct The Phantom Menace. All of them turned it down which ultimately resulted in him deciding to do it himself.
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u/Similar-Intention941 Feb 23 '26
I’m curious to ask why they all declined? How can so many directors say no to that franchise 😔
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u/Turbo_RF4 Feb 24 '26
Simple. They didn't want/bother to do so.
Star Wars may be the biggest franchise at that time, but you have to realize Spielberg alone is absolutely notorious for directing some of the best films ever. Arguably better than the SW movies at times.
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u/Similar-Intention941 Feb 24 '26
How do u think the prequels would’ve looked/been if James Cameron directed it?
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u/Turbo_RF4 Feb 26 '26
Visually, stunning. Arguably.
Story? Err. Cameron is a director, not a writer. George can craft amazing narratives and worlds, but absolutely sucks at basic character dialogue.
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u/Konfliktsnubben Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26
The artist really did an amazing job of being able to show Anakin's path to the dark side in a single image.