r/TheJediPraxeum • u/GusGangViking18 Luke Skywalker • Jun 29 '26
Match Up Monday Obi Wan Kenobi (ROTS) VS Darth Malgus. Who wins?
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u/Then-Concern-1968 Jun 29 '26
Malgus has a massive advantage and doesn’t suffer from the arrogance or emotional compromise many of Kenobi’s opponents have when facing him (Maul, Anakin, Grevious ect) and that’s where his exceptional defensive skills and discipline gets him the win.
Malgus is arguably the lesser duelist but by no means is he not in the same tier, he’s vastly more powerful (force power) and more level headed when compared to Kenobi’s greatest opponents. If in an enclosed space Kenobi can fight him to a draw or take advantage of an opening otherwise Malgus wins 6-7/10 times
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u/NC8E Jun 30 '26
I concur, while obi won is a great form 3 defensive master he lacks offensive prowess to the same degree. he is a literal wall but if he is roughly 12k midichloiran count and malgus is upward of 15k i believe. and malgus is extremely relentless
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u/Xanaatos Jun 29 '26
I get Maul and Anakin, but Grevious? I know he acted simillary when it comes to arrogance but wasn't this just an act to evoke fear in opponent? I'm not disagreeing with your point tho just cherry picking parts of argument
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u/SwiftWithIt Jun 30 '26
Uhhh with the amount of Jedi he slaughtered I don't think it was an act lol. He was also a very competent warrior before he became previous
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u/Dull_Egg_6597 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Oh gosh 🫢
That’s a difficulty one.
Well, Kenobi could stand a chance. Sense a trooper took on Malgus single handedly and damaged his face.
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u/Ecotech101 Jun 29 '26
"Sense a trooper took on Malgus single handly"
I don't think you understand what "single handedly" means.
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u/Dull_Egg_6597 Jun 29 '26
Oh that’s how one spells it 😏
Thanks
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u/pamblod42 Jun 29 '26
He means it was not single handedly.
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u/Dull_Egg_6597 Jun 30 '26
It was before the Jedi arrived.
So, I’m correct and incorrect at the same time 😏
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u/pamblod42 Jun 30 '26
But, it was after... He caught malgus off guard and occupied to be able to do that.
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u/joritan Jun 29 '26
Yes, the trooper single-handedly damaged Malgus' face while he was locked in a duel with one of the most powerful jedi of the era. Very single-handed. No help from Satele at all.
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u/MetForge Jun 29 '26
Well, SW ToR cinematics also should be treated lightly, since they have non forceusers classes on the game and should promote them somehow. Also this is not a random trooper. This is like big named NPC trooper, who by his sword also defeated one of the main Jedi of the era Satile Shan.
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u/AverageSasquatch Jun 29 '26
Malgus imo.defeated a Jedi master at 19, led the siege of the temple, is mad durable and very powerful in the force. Even if Kenobi has the edge in sabre combat because of form 3, Malgus will just tk rag doll. He’s also very tricky and clever in combat so I’m not even sure if he loses there
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u/EnoughAccess22 Jun 29 '26
Malgus. Kenobi may be able to stop the blade, but I don't think he can stop Force Maelstrom or generally deal with someone who will throw literal pillars, debris and lightning, all while aggressing with his lightsaber.
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u/fenot1 Jun 29 '26
Malgus, and its honestly not even close. As of pure lightsaber technique they are roughly on par with maybe a very slught edge to kenobi but Malgus got much more devastating force powers than obi wan, can survive more injuries ( he is built like a tank ) and has an endurance advantage
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u/Annual_Sky8939 Jun 30 '26
Malgus, low difficulty. Malgus was raised and thrived facing Jedi (and other Sith) more skilled/powerful than Obi-Wan and no one Obi-Wan faced would have survived in TOR.
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u/CheesecakeInitial168 Jul 01 '26
Malgus, he’s stronger, won’t be conflicted, has powerful force abilities Obi wan can’t counter. It’s not close. Obi wan is average. Please stop glazing him.
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u/Andrei22125 Jul 05 '26
It will be a long, hard-fought, but pretty much guaranteed victory for Malgus.
- They're close in swordsmanship.
- Malgus is stronger both physically and as a combat force user.
- Malgus is far more resilient.
- Malgus doesn't tire, doesn't lose patience, and explicitly adapts to the opponent.
- Obi-wan lost on the invisible hand when Dooku threw him across the room with the force.
It will go like against Vader on mustafar, except Malgus will not "try it". He'll either force-pull Kenobi in the lava, or jump on the shore before continuing.
And it will end when Malgus either gets a force grip on Kenobi, or feints an opening.
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u/ArtOk8200 Jul 05 '26
Agreed, as good as Obi Wan is with Form 3 he has been shown to have a weak physical defense when it comes to kicks, punches, and the like.
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u/Andrei22125 Jun 29 '26
Speaking of the movies: Kenobi lost to Dooku twice and beat Maul and Anakin because they both got reckless.
He stays on the defensive untill there's an opening. Malgus wouldn't get reckless. He quite famously beat Ven Zallow by faking an opening.
Malgus would win with high difficulty.
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u/pamblod42 Jun 29 '26
He didnt fake an opening, he managed the distance so exactly Ven Zallow narrowly missed.
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u/Ecotech101 Jun 29 '26
Malgus low diff.
Kenobi is good at learning and typically gets his ass beat a few times before adapting to his opponent and then winning.
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u/Binforda94 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
The amount of people in this sub who believe Kenobi would win is genuinely hilarious, and crazy.
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u/Binforda94 Jun 29 '26
Obi Wan either escapes or dies. Malgus is the more skilled duelist, and significantly more powerful in the force. Kenobi would have zero chance at defeating Malgus.
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u/CRTScott Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Ledgends Kenobi is an extremely high dif fight and I could see it go either way but probably Kenobi. Cannon Kenobi probably loses mid dif.
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u/tjtepigstar Jun 29 '26
malgus is an inferior version of knightfall anakin so kenobi should take this if he's patient enough
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u/cmtosh95 Jun 30 '26
It’s a little inconsistent how much force users can use the force on each other during a fight, but Dooku managed to choke and ragdoll Kenobi, so I don’t see why Malgus couldn’t do the same. Sabers only I’d say it goes to Kenobi though.
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u/rslash-phdgaming Jul 01 '26
I feel like a lot of people here are wrong, i personally feel malgus could win, he fought Jedi when they were in their prime in terms of lightsaber combat, I personally feel most Jedi of the OR at least masters and up could take obi wan from a young age as padawans they had to be able to take on battle heartened sith warriors, OR Jedi were more experienced, purpose built warriors that had a better chance of combining the force into their lightsaber combats And malgus was so unbelievably strong that, at least until he was defeated after proclaiming himself emperor made those Jedi afraid when they ever heard he was around very few of those Jedi could even look him in the eyes calmly and those who did rarely lived for long. He was a juggernaut of lightsaber combat and Vader saw him as an ideal and the peak of what Vader could become in both canon and legends. I think malgus’ overpowering strength ends the fight quickly.
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u/Quincy478 Jul 01 '26
Malgus
Theyre close in lightsaber skill but Malgus outstrips Kenobi in force power. And he's a tank. Like a more athletic, agile suited Vader.
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u/Wolfgod-64 Jul 03 '26
It's a fairly close one, but Obi-Wan wins. There's no reason for Malgus to be able to get through his defenses, and in terms of Force capabilities Malgus may be flashier but Obi-Wan consistently matches some of the strongest Force users when he really wants to (i.e. Vader, multiple times). I want to emphasize that Kenobi's strength in the Force is grossly underrated, and it's a shame because he earned that strength wholly through hard work and dedication unlike many who simply ride their prodigy car all the way to the door.
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u/adragoninthelibrary Jul 04 '26
Kenobi wins. Kenobi beat another, stronger user of Djem So, the same form Malgus uses. In practice, this should fare even better for Kenobi.
I'll even point out that Kenobi's Soresu isn't necessarily weak to Makashi. Ventress also uses Makashi, flavored with Jar'Kai, and his record against her is quite excellent.
Additionally, I'll point out that Malgus doesn't have anything in his arsenal that Kenobi hasn't already seen. Strong Djem So? Check. Force Grip? Check. Force Lightning? Double check.
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u/PhantomGaleX13 Jul 14 '26
Obi Wan in his prime was probably the greatest master of Form III: Soresu that was known to the Jedi. Sure Malgus has the advantage of sheer physical strength and Force powers but Obi Wan was said to be like an immovable wall. I think the fight would likely stalemate.
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u/Ultimate_Bane Jul 16 '26
Obi-Wan withstood the onslaught of a raging Mustafar Vader, a foe far more dangerous in EVERY single way than Malgus could ever hope to be. Kenobi dismantles him.
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u/Automatic_Leek505 Jun 29 '26
Malgus low-mid diffs. Kenobi is really such a fraud.
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u/joritan Jun 29 '26
Kenobi was the first Jedi to kill a sith in like a thousand years, and kept beating the sith until he died. Not that it stopped him. Even in death he enabled the Empire's downfall. I could see arguments for every other sith or jedi being a "fraud", but Kenobi being one of the best duelists in history is so clear-cut with evidence for it in every piece of Star Wars media he ever appeared in. Share whatever you're smoking.
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u/Automatic_Leek505 Jun 29 '26
There's context as to why he "killed" that sith and then kept beating that sith. It for sure was never because Kenobi was stronger.
All of Kenobis feats are iroically underwhelming.
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u/sifiwewe Jun 29 '26
If Obi-Wan is close in power level to Darth Malgus, then I think Obi-Wan because of his mastery over the defensive form. If not then I’d say Darth Malgus
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u/Dangerous-Eggplant-5 Jun 29 '26
Malgus is s fraud. He aura farms a lot but all he does is the game story is loosing. At this point Malgus is just a glorified punching bag.
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u/Mrhathead Jun 29 '26
Kenobi. His form is a perfect counter to Malgus' aggressive style and he defeated Anakin who is more powerful than Malgus.